Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-16 Thread Jim Sibley
Rob van der Heij wrote: What we came up with is to run a job now and then that files most of the unused space with a single big file that is easy to compress (e.g. all blanks) and then remove that file again. I was told this did help SFS a lot. I can confirm what Rob is seeing for Linux. On an

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-14 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 18:36, Tony Pearson wrote: On z/OS, the ERASE ON SCRATCH option zeros-out the tracks containing data, so that hardware compression can take advantage of this. Actually, under z/OS there is a deleted space reclaim function that runs in background as part of the SVAA

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-13 Thread John Summerfield
Scott, Thanks for the insight. I think our problem is item 2, residual data. The volumes were cleanly formatted for use with z/VM and Linux, but over time, files are deleted and new ones are allocated within ext2fs, and we suspect that this file system is not zero-ing out the deleted

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-13 Thread Alan Cox
On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 12:30, John Summerfield wrote: man chattr chattr +s ... I'm not sure I believe all the man page says though. Any comments on the compression Alan? I'm not sure which file systems actually implement chattr +s. You'd need to ask a file systems guy. Its not something that

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-13 Thread Rob van der Heij
At 00:36 13-07-02, Tony Pearson wrote: Do you know if there is an option in ext2fs to have deleted files zeroed-out, such as for security purposes, which would benefit outboard compression, or perhaps another Linux filesystem that has this feature? We notice similar things on z/VM. Where

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-12 Thread Tony Pearson
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Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
At 01:21 10-07-02, Alan Cox wrote: Perhaps the filesystem is already compressing the data? I hear some do that nowadays... Not the base Linux ones But the data may be - like RPM packages or tar.gz files.

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-10 Thread Hank Calzaretta
Computer Services, Inc. -Original Message- From: Tony Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux data on IBM RVA List-390 readers: I have a customer writing their Linux data on an IBM Ramac Virtual Array (RVA) which has

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-10 Thread Ledbetter, Scott E
are binaries. User data such as databases, Apache stuff, email, ect. compresses much better. Scott Ledbetter StorageTek -Original Message- From: Tony Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: July 09, 2002 3:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux data on IBM RVA List-390 readers: I

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-10 Thread Post, Mark K
PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux data on IBM RVA -snip- 3) We cannot reconcile the numbers returned by the Linux df command and what is in /proc/dasd/devices. For example for a 2.4.7 kernel ext2 filesystem on a 3390-9 (/dev/dasdb1): tmp05lnx:~ # df Filesystem 1k-blocks

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-10 Thread Alan Cox
The df command shows /dev/dasdb1 as having 6983168 1K blocks. But it also shows 846212 used, and 5776348 available. 846212+5776348=6622560. Where did 6983168-6622560=360608 blocks go to? I assume it is filesystem overhead, but 360MB of filesystem overhead seems a little high??? The

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-10 Thread Carlos Ordonez
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Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-09 Thread Tony Pearson
List-390 readers: I have a customer writing their Linux data on an IBM Ramac Virtual Array (RVA) which has its own outboard compression. They are finding that the Linux data is not compressing at all. Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas? Thanks Tony Pearson IBM Storage Systems -

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-09 Thread Alan Cox
Perhaps the filesystem is already compressing the data? I hear some do that nowadays... Not the base Linux ones

Re: Linux data on IBM RVA

2002-07-09 Thread Rich Smrcina
I was going to suggest that maybe it has something to do with the ASCII data, but even in ASCII there are sequences of the same hex code that would be compressible. On Tuesday 09 July 2002 05:32 pm, you wrote: Perhaps the filesystem is already compressing the data? I hear some do that