Re: Files on disk

2010-07-22 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 18:26, Sterling James wrote: >What's compression set to? I know that has other implications, also. Look >at the makesparsefile option for restore. > >"Tivoli Storage Manager backs up a sparse file as a regular file if client >compression is off. Set the compression option

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-22 Thread David Boyes
> Does that imply then that a TMC backed up sparse file could not be > restored to the same device it came off of? Would TMC attempt to > restore > all 26G? Yes, and yes. Bitten by that one on Solaris too. -- For LINUX-390 subsc

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-21 Thread Sterling James
backing up sparse files to minimize network transaction time and maximize server storage space. " Thanks From: "Edmund R. MacKenty" To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 07/21/2010 04:58 PM Subject: Re: Files on disk Sent by: Linux on 390 Port On Wednesday 21 July 2010 17:48, Dav

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-21 Thread Shane G
I might just add that despite it's manpage assertion, rsync isn't too intelligent about it at all. My (non z) testing indicated that if you re-use the same target file, after the initial run "cp" is significantly more efficient. The initial run for both is comparable as the target needs to be creat

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-21 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 17:48, Dave Jones wrote: >Does that imply then that a TMC backed up sparse file could not be >restored to the same device it came off of? Would TMC attempt to restore >all 26G? I would expect so. If it doesn't know enough to preserve the sparseness of a file as it backs

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-21 Thread Dave Jones
Does that imply then that a TMC backed up sparse file could not be restored to the same device it came off of? Would TMC attempt to restore all 26G? On 07/21/2010 12:14 PM, David Boyes wrote: Sparse files. OK. Then the next question, how can I store a 26G file in a machine that isn't that large?

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-21 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Thank you all for your replies. It's clear to me, we were dumping zero's. Regards, Berry. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 o

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-21 Thread David Boyes
>> Sparse files. OK. Then the next question, how can I store a 26G file in >> a machine that isn't that large? Because sparse files are just a bunch of pointers -- the data doesn't really exist. It's just diddling around with the directory inode. >> And to add to this, why does the >> filesystem

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-21 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 11:59, Berry van Sleeuwen wrote: >Sparse files. OK. Then the next question, how can I store a 26G file in >a machine that isn't that large? And to add to this, why does the >filesystem backup really dump 26G into our TSM server? Because it isn't really using 26GB of disk

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-21 Thread Richard Troth
RSYNC is your friend. rsync -a -S sourcedir/. targetdir/. where "-S" means "handle sparse files intelligently". TAR also has an option for handling sparse files. -- R;   <>< On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:59, Berry van Sleeuwen wrote: > Hello Edmund, > > Sparse files. OK. Then the nex

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-21 Thread Berry van Sleeuwen
Hello Edmund, Sparse files. OK. Then the next question, how can I store a 26G file in a machine that isn't that large? And to add to this, why does the filesystem backup really dump 26G into our TSM server? So it looks like the data is going somewhere. Berry. Op 21-07-10 15:41, Edmund R. MacKen

Re: Files on disk

2010-07-21 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 05:03, van Sleeuwen, Berry wrote: >On a SLES8 guest we have found that file /var/log/lastlog is reported to >be 26G. Also the /var/log/faillog is reported to be 2G. But, the /var is >located on a 3390 model 3. So that disk, that also contains other >directories, is only 2.