oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
I have a request for a linux server that will be hosting an oracle data base. The requestor has requested 8G of main memory and 8G of swap (Our normal server usually has 1.5G of swap - .5 on dasd and 1G on vdisk). Does anyone have any thoughts about giving this person 8G of swap ? I've been

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Scott Rohling
I would stick with the smaller swap ... as you say, if the server is swapping a lot, it's better to give it more main memory and let z/VM manage memory paging then let Linux continue swapping. I always prefer to give less (memory and swap) initially and add more if actual behavior warrants it.

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Sam Amsavelu
You are correct. For successful Oracle implementations it is necessary to estimate the memory requirements, by considering SGA, PGA, number of dedicated connections, Linux page table requirements, ASM, RAC etc., The total of swap space and the guest memory relates to how much virtual memory is

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
I have a request for a linux server that will be hosting an oracle data base. The requestor has requested 8G of main memory and 8G of swap (Our normal server usually has 1.5G of swap - .5 on dasd and 1G on vdisk). Does anyone have any thoughts about giving this person 8G of swap ? First

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 9:39 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: oracle question I have a request for a linux server that will be hosting an oracle data base

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Kurt Acker
In addition to the spot on info already supplied, this Redbook should be helpful as well: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg248104.html?Open Thanks, Best Regards and Happy Holidays, Kurt Acker IBM Smarter Planet, Smarter Data Centers Virtualization and Enterprise System Management

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
Thanks for the info. Interesting guide -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Kurt Acker Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 9:50 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: oracle question In addition to the spot on info already supplied

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
Thanks for all your answers. I guess I'll give him another vdisk of 4G and if he needs more, I can swapgen another vdisk. Yeah, small incremental increases usually are good thing. Is one 8G swap device better than 4 2G swap devices ? It's a lot easier adding another swap device than

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
thanks for the response -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 10:12 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: oracle question Thanks for all your answers. I guess I'll give him another

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
One more thing: check to see if your VM LPAR has some XSTOR defined. VM paging implements a main store- XSTOR- real disk data migration path that helps a lot with high paging levels and VDISK. Your VM performance monitor will tell you lots of interesting stuff wrt paging performance.

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Scott Rohling
Only for z/VM 6.2 and previous..with 6.3, XSTOR is no longer recommended, and in fact will be the last release to support it. Scott Rohling On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:38 AM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: One more thing: check to see if your VM LPAR has some XSTOR defined. VM

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Gentry, Steve
: oracle question One more thing: check to see if your VM LPAR has some XSTOR defined. VM paging implements a main store- XSTOR- real disk data migration path that helps a lot with high paging levels and VDISK. Your VM performance monitor will tell you lots of interesting stuff wrt paging performance

XSTOR Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Kurt Acker
and Enterprise System Management Technologies From: Gentry, Steve steve.gen...@westernsouthernlife.com To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu, Date: 12/30/2013 10:56 AM Subject: Re: oracle question Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Regarding XSTOR and VM 6.3. Is it true XSTOR will be going away

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 10:12 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: oracle question Thanks for all your answers. I guess I'll give him another vdisk of 4G and if he needs more, I can swapgen another

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Scott Rohling
someone saying that the maximum on a single swap is 4194296. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 10:12 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: oracle question Thanks for all your

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Sam Amsavelu
My suggestion would be if you are considering 4 GB of swap space, follow a layered approach. Define two virtual disks, one for 256 MB and the next one to be for 512 MB and a third lower priority swap disk (physical disk) for the remaining required size. 4GB of swap as virtual disk alone is

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread Levy, Alan
PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: oracle question My suggestion would be if you are considering 4 GB of swap space, follow a layered approach. Define two virtual disks, one for 256 MB and the next one to be for 512 MB and a third lower priority swap disk (physical disk

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
Only for z/VM 6.2 and previous..with 6.3, XSTOR is no longer recommended, and in fact will be the last release to support it. Good point. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
See the help file for v1310 of SWAPGEN... 8-) If you haven't already done so, make sure the VDISK system and per-user limits are set to Infinite in SYSTEM CONFIG and that you have enough VM page space to back the demand. I tried using swapgen to define a 2G (4194304 blks) space and it says

Re: oracle question

2013-12-30 Thread David Boyes
Thanks - I ended up having 4 swap disks (1 500M dasd, one 1G vdisk and 2 2G vdisks - total of 5.5G). I just hope that it's enough. Time will tell. Just make sure that the real DASD one is used last by making sure the VDISK ones are prioritied.

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-25 Thread Damian Gallagher
that uses file system storage (optional) Cheers Damian -Original Message- From: Patrick Spinler [mailto:spinler.patr...@mayo.edu] Sent: 24 May 2011 16:20 To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: z/Linux Oracle question Oracle software on our intel oracle 11G r2 RAC cluster is about 4.5G each

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-25 Thread Dodds, Jim
[mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Hughes, Jim Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:15 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: z/Linux Oracle question Our Oracle guy says he needs 30 gig to install the Oracle software and a test database. Does this sound correct? I have no facts regarding

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-25 Thread Henry E Schaffer
I'm just wondering about quantities of disk space that concern people. Is 30GB noticeable - or in the noise? --henry schaffer -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-25 Thread Mark Post
On 5/25/2011 at 02:37 PM, Henry E Schaffer h...@unity.ncsu.edu wrote: I'm just wondering about quantities of disk space that concern people. Is 30GB noticeable - or in the noise? For big Oracle shops, 30GB is less than rounding error. Mark Post

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-25 Thread Hughes, Jim
Schaffer ==Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:37 PM ==To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU ==Subject: Re: z/Linux Oracle question == == I'm just wondering about quantities of disk space that concern people. ==Is 30GB noticeable - or in the noise? == ==--henry schaffer

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-25 Thread Tom Duerbusch
It all depends on what they are trying to door if they are blindly following recommendations for the PC world. Or, for that matter, they know they have 30 GB of disk space on a current server (and not telling you how much is used). On my Oracle test systems, I have: 1. 3390-9 for

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-25 Thread Marcy Cortes
- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Henry E Schaffer Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:37 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/Linux Oracle question I'm just wondering about quantities of disk space that concern people. Is 30GB noticeable

z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-24 Thread Hughes, Jim
Our Oracle guy says he needs 30 gig to install the Oracle software and a test database. Does this sound correct? I have no facts regarding this subject. Regards, Jim Hughes Consulting Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-24 Thread Dave Jones
The Oracle code itself only takes 4-5GB of DASD space, if I recall correctly. How big is the test database? DJ On 05/24/2011 10:14 AM, Hughes, Jim wrote: Our Oracle guy says he needs 30 gig to install the Oracle software and a test database. Does this sound correct? I have no facts regarding

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-24 Thread Patrick Spinler
Oracle software on our intel oracle 11G r2 RAC cluster is about 4.5G each for Oracle DB and the Grid/Clusterware installs. Call it 10G all together. So another 20GB for some test databases doesn't sound completely out of line. -- Pat On 5/24/11 10:14 AM, Hughes, Jim wrote: Our Oracle guy says

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-24 Thread Hughes, Jim
==To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU ==Subject: Re: z/Linux Oracle question == ==The Oracle code itself only takes 4-5GB of DASD space, if I recall ==correctly. How big is the test database? == ==DJ == ==On 05/24/2011 10:14 AM, Hughes, Jim wrote: == Our Oracle guy says he needs 30 gig to install the Oracle

Re: z/Linux Oracle question

2011-05-24 Thread Marcy Cortes
cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Hughes, Jim Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:31 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] z/Linux Oracle question We are just doing a proof of concept. The test database needs

ORACLE Question

2003-01-17 Thread Bruce Fry
Our Applications Management wants to know if ORACLE executes on Linux, does anyone have any related information?

Re: ORACLE Question

2003-01-17 Thread Ferguson, Neale
There are two session at SHARE on Oracle 9i on Linux for S/390 (zSeries). -Original Message- Our Applications Management wants to know if ORACLE executes on Linux, does anyone have any related information?

Re: ORACLE Question

2003-01-17 Thread McKown, John
- From: Bruce Fry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ORACLE Question Our Applications Management wants to know if ORACLE executes on Linux, does anyone have any related information?

Re: ORACLE Question

2003-01-17 Thread Post, Mark K
- From: Bruce Fry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ORACLE Question Our Applications Management wants to know if ORACLE executes on Linux, does anyone have any related information?

Re: ORACLE Question

2003-01-17 Thread Eddie Chen
ORACLE for Zseries is avvailable in the RED Book.