Re: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-23 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 04/23/2002 at 02:59 AST, Rod Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is also my understanding that you have to buy another VM license to run > guests under your IFL engine when you get it. The IFL VM will have to talk to > the NON-IFL VM via an intra-LPAR communications technique. To

Re: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-23 Thread Rod Clayton
It is also my understanding that you have to buy another VM license to run guests under your IFL engine when you get it. The IFL VM will have to talk to the NON-IFL VM via an intra-LPAR communications technique. >Alan Altmark posted that z/VM 3 can't run in IFL engines. This is not >good news

Re: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-22 Thread David Boyes
> And, if I may ask, what > do you need > RSCS and PVM for that cannot be handled by FTP or Telnet? (Given that > this is a Linux workload, not traditional apps.) One thing might be that they're integrating a set of pre-existing management tools to cover the VM side of the new box -- not too un

Re: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-22 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I don't really see much of a problem here. Since the IFL engines can't be mixed with S/390 engines. You end up running the S/390 in seperate LPARs from the IFL engines. Buy the new box. Move your current z/VM 3 on the S/390 engines. Install z/VM 4.2 on the IFL side. Do the Linux proof of con

Re: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-22 Thread Ann Smith
Thanks. If there were a problem with the TCP/IP network, RSCS provides an alternative way to send files and Passthru provides another way into the VM. If cheap enough, we'd probably want them. Just because other unix systems only have IP doesn't mean we have to settle for that. Actually we have

Re: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 04/22/2002 at 02:05 AST, Ann Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Keeping both machines could incur additional software and hardware costs. > For now, I just need IBM to verify z/VM 3 really can't run in an IFL. > If it really can't, we'll just have to deal with it. z/VM V3 really CANNOT

Re: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-22 Thread Ann Smith
Keeping both machines could incur additional software and hardware costs. For now, I just need IBM to verify z/VM 3 really can't run in an IFL. If it really can't, we'll just have to deal with it. Rich Smrcina wrote: > Are both machines going to be on the floor together for a while? If so, will

Re: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-22 Thread Post, Mark K
rocessing capability of an IFL towards the machine "group" size, and hence not increasing the group-based software charges. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Ann Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: z/VM 3 and IFL engin

Re: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
Are both machines going to be on the floor together for a while? If so, will there be enough time to migrate your VM workload to the other system and start your Linux POC after your VM migration? On Monday 22 April 2002 12:12 pm, you wrote: > Alan Altmark posted that z/VM 3 can't run in IFL engi

Re: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-22 Thread Post, Mark K
Mark -Original Message- From: Ann Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No! Alan Altmark posted that z/VM 3 can't run in IFL engines. This is not good news for us. We are currently running VM on

z/VM 3 and IFL engines - Oh No!

2002-04-22 Thread Ann Smith
Alan Altmark posted that z/VM 3 can't run in IFL engines. This is not good news for us. We are currently running VM on a machine that can't run z/VM 4. We are looking at getting newer machine with an IFL engine. We wanted to do a Linux proof of concept on the new machine, on the IFL to isolate the