Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Matthew Kirkwood
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Alistair Riddoch wrote: > > >Tell me of another editor. :) > > > > You're not going to like your more reasonable options, but I'll be > > blunt: vi or ed should work nicely, when ported. > > Why would anyone want to use any editor other than vi? Laziness. I invested an hour

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > ed would be a good start, but I'd rather see a vi implementation. ed, is called (surprisingly) ed. vi is called levee. Those 2 programs are already there in the elkscmd package. Davey

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Chris Starling
> Why would anyone want to use any editor other than vi? I'm almost done with the EMACS port. :) But seriously... I'm wanting to get my C skills back into shape. Can anyone think of a good program to port? Maybe "ed" wouldn't be such a bad start... or maybe some old games from Slackware's

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Ross Vandegrift
>> You're not going to like your more reasonable options, but I'll be blunt: vi >> or ed should work nicely, when ported. >> > >Why would anyone want to use any editor other than vi? ::Tactfully sidesteps impending religious war:: Is there a reason that I got two of this message? Ross

Re: SV: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Riley Williams
Hi Thor. >> Depends on the shell you're using - I believe sash doesn't >> implement pipes yet, but I'm not sure about any other shells... > There are other shells? I have heard rumours that there's a version of ksh working for ELKS, but I've never managed to track it down... Other than that

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Ross Vandegrift
>But seriously... I'm wanting to get my C skills back into shape. Can anyone >think of a good program to port? Maybe "ed" wouldn't be such a bad start... or >maybe some old games from Slackware's Y package... ed would be a good start, but I'd rather see a vi implementation. When a Un*x has

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Ross Vandegrift writes: > > >Tell me of another editor. :) > > > You're not going to like your more reasonable options, but I'll be blunt: vi > or ed should work nicely, when ported. > Why would anyone want to use any editor other than vi? Al ZZ

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Ross Vandegrift
>Tell me of another editor. :) You're not going to like your more reasonable options, but I'll be blunt: vi or ed should work nicely, when ported. Ross

Re: Distribution for ELKSg

1999-06-01 Thread Alistair Riddoch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Just a Question: > > How hard is it to create an ELKS distribution? I am thinking of creating > one, since there seems to be interest on the list for one, and bluebell > seems o have been erased off the face of the planet. > Shouldn't be too hard to start off w

Distribution for ELKS

1999-06-01 Thread ekuiperba
Just a Question: How hard is it to create an ELKS distribution? I am thinking of creating one, since there seems to be interest on the list for one, and bluebell seems o have been erased off the face of the planet. Beau Kuiper [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ROMable ELKS

1999-06-01 Thread William Jenkins
I have a GRiDpad 1901 which has a 512Kb ROM Disc (no HDD or FDD) and 512Kb RAM, do you reckon ELKs will be able to run on it oneday? Will

Re: Web space for developers

1999-06-01 Thread Aaron T Porter
On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Damn, I could kill for that sort of internet capibility. I am on a lowly > 56K dial-up connection :( I used to work for a large ISP, the slowest link between me and the 'net was my 100Mb Full Duplex netcard. 290MB of aggregate

Re: SV: Shells

1999-06-01 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Thor Harald Johansen writes: > > > It is included in the standard distribution in binary form on the root > > disk, and as source in the elkscmd package. > > How do I make it the default shell? You could do the following:- mv /bin/sh /bin/sash mv /bin/ash /bin/sh which does exactly what you w

RE: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Gray, David W.
Might have a look at (older versions!) of joe. Originally a very simple wordstar clone, seems to have a BAD case of feeping creaturitis... -Original Message- From: Thor Harald Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 1:37 PM To: Luke (boo) Farrar Cc: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Web space for developers

1999-06-01 Thread ekuiperba
Damn, I could kill for that sort of internet capibility. I am on a lowly 56K dial-up connection :( Beau Kuiper [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Alistair Riddoch wrote: > Luke writes: > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Robert Amstadt wrote: > > > > > As you may know, I run one of

SV: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
> Pico would be great, but is is part of Pine, the email program so it > wouldn't be as easy to port as you might think. But It would probably be > doable. I always use pico myself. Tell me of another editor. :) -- Thor Harald Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SV: SV: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
> Yes. Get the 'combo' disk image in the images.zip file. Can this image be used with the ELKS booter for DOS? -- Thor Harald Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SV: Shells

1999-06-01 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
> It is included in the standard distribution in binary form on the root > disk, and as source in the elkscmd package. How do I make it the default shell? -- Thor Harald Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread ekuiperba
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Luke (boo) Farrar wrote: > > > > On Mon, 31 May 1999, Thor Harald Johansen wrote: > > > Is it possible to compile 'pico', the text editor, for ELKS? And does piping > > work ('<', '|' and '>') properly yet? > > -- > > Thor Harald Johansen > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Pic

SV: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
> Pico is suprisngly large, it would probably be a lot more sensible to use > a much smaller editor with more limited functionality. Okay. Point out one that works! -- Thor Harald Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SV: SV: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
> levee comes with the elkscmd package. Do I just type 'leevee' after installing the package? -- Thor Harald Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Web space for developers

1999-06-01 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Luke writes: > > > > > On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Robert Amstadt wrote: > > > As you may know, I run one of the mirrors for the ELKS project. I was > > browsing around the web pages and noticed that at least one of the ELKS > > developers was using Geo Cities with their annoying pop-up ads. I have

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Luke (boo) Farrar wrote: > Pico would be great, but is is part of Pine, the email program so it > wouldn't be as easy to port as you might think. Another issue(?) here, is that pico and pine aren't under the GPL, but are under a different license. If you fiddle with it (and

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Luke (boo) Farrar
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Aidan Skinner wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 31 May 1999, Thor Harald Johansen wrote: > > > Is it possible to compile 'pico', the text editor, for ELKS? And does piping > > Pico is suprisngly large, it would probably be a lot more se

Re: Web space for developers

1999-06-01 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Robert Amstadt wrote: > As you may know, I run one of the mirrors for the ELKS project. I was > browsing around the web pages and noticed that at least one of the ELKS > developers was using Geo Cities with their annoying pop-up ads. I have a > 384k connection to the Interne

Re: Web space for developers

1999-06-01 Thread Luke (boo) Farrar
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Robert Amstadt wrote: > As you may know, I run one of the mirrors for the ELKS project. I was > browsing around the web pages and noticed that at least one of the ELKS > developers was using Geo Cities with their annoying pop-up ads. I have a > 384k connection to the Inte

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Luke (boo) Farrar
On Mon, 31 May 1999, Thor Harald Johansen wrote: > Is it possible to compile 'pico', the text editor, for ELKS? And does piping > work ('<', '|' and '>') properly yet? > -- > Thor Harald Johansen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Pico would be great, but is is part of Pine, the email program so it wouldn

Re: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Aidan Skinner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 31 May 1999, Thor Harald Johansen wrote: > Is it possible to compile 'pico', the text editor, for ELKS? And does piping Pico is suprisngly large, it would probably be a lot more sensible to use a much smaller editor with more limited functio

Re: X under ELKS....

1999-06-01 Thread legacy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I glance at this mailing list from time to time to see if there have been any > breakthroughs. I noticed that a lot of people are interested in X for ELKS. I > wonder if there are in fact two separate questions here: first can an X server > be run on ELKS and second

Web space for developers

1999-06-01 Thread Robert Amstadt
As you may know, I run one of the mirrors for the ELKS project. I was browsing around the web pages and noticed that at least one of the ELKS developers was using Geo Cities with their annoying pop-up ads. I have a 384k connection to the Internet to my Linux system at home. Assuming that traffi

Re: X under ELKS....

1999-06-01 Thread kevin . whitefoot
I glance at this mailing list from time to time to see if there have been any breakthroughs. I noticed that a lot of people are interested in X for ELKS. I wonder if there are in fact two separate questions here: first can an X server be run on ELKS and second can X clients run on ELKS. If wh

Re: Shells

1999-06-01 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Thor Harald Johansen writes: > > Please tell me where I can download Ash for ELKS. It is included in the standard distribution in binary form on the root disk, and as source in the elkscmd package. Al

Re: ELKS in AppleII+

1999-06-01 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Luke writes: > > > > > On Tue, 25 May 1999, Sven 'Zak' Kozma wrote: > > > Hi Greg > > > > >Wow, I didn't realize that ELKS once ran on z80's! What is the zcc > > > > Maybe ... > > > > >compiler that you're talking about? Is the src available? What is scc? > > > > Scc is a SmallC Comp

Re: SV: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Thor Harald Johansen wrote: > Oh, by the way, the standard shell, is it very poor compared to other > shells? Actually, it's not, if you look at all it's doing. Sash as a shell is very basic, but internal to that one executable are a LOT of prorgams. >From small programs suc

Re: SV: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Thor Harald Johansen wrote: > Okay. I need a reasonably good text editor. Point me to one, please. ;) levee comes with the elkscmd package. Davey

Shells

1999-06-01 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
Please tell me where I can download Ash for ELKS. -- Thor Harald Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SV: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
> Afaik pico is small enough. You can give it a try. Hm...someone claims it uses things that are not implemented in ELKS yet. > Yes. Use ash. Where do I get it? Oh, by the way, the standard shell, is it very poor compared to other shells? Can I make ELKS boot from ONE disk instead of a boot +

SV: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
> Depends on the shell you're using - I believe sash doesn't implement > pipes yet, but I'm not sure about the other shells... There are other shells? -- Thor Harald Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SV: Capabilities

1999-06-01 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
> Why on earth do you want pico? Apart from the fact that there's probably > not enough tty support in the kernel yet, the Linux binary is 440k > (without libc, ELKS needs to be static). So the answer is no, unless you > remove all the functionality. Okay. I need a reasonably good text editor.

SV: SV: Cyborgs

1999-06-01 Thread Thor Harald Johansen
> I also have parallel port SCSI adapters, IDE hard drive adapters, > Floppy Drives, and I forget what else here :) Between the serial port > for a wireless modem, and the parallel port for other things, you should > be able to figure out most of what you want, I hope! Do you have an IDE Hard

RE: ROMable ELKS

1999-06-01 Thread Simon Wood
> The ROMfs code that has already been ported to ELKS is very good for this > sort of thing, and I have set up the filesystem code so that a compiletime > option can be specified to remove all the filesystem code related to > writing to actual filesystems. This would allow a very small kernel to

RE: ROMable ELKS

1999-06-01 Thread Alex Holden
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Simon Wood wrote: > This sort of thing could also be applied to a RAM only system, for example > the Psion 3a - which I'm doing some work on. > I've got a keyboard scanning working and some basic screen stuff, but I need Wow, cool- I look forward to trying it. Will it work wit

Re: ROMable ELKS

1999-06-01 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Simon Wood writes: > > > The advent of nano-X and graphics under ELKS, together with this discusion > > has set me thinking more seriously about ROMing ELKS. > > > > In the bath last night (as always) I thought about how I could modify ELKS > > so it would run without a filesystem, and came up w

Re: ROMable ELKS

1999-06-01 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Jacek Lipkowski writes: > > On Sat, 29 May 1999, Alistair Riddoch wrote: > > > Any thoughts anyone? > > i thought about this some time ago. if you had enough ram, you could put > elks in an eprom (or actually two eproms - the xt used 32k eproms if i can > remember correctly). during start you c

RE: ROMable ELKS

1999-06-01 Thread Simon Wood
> The advent of nano-X and graphics under ELKS, together with this discusion > has set me thinking more seriously about ROMing ELKS. > > In the bath last night (as always) I thought about how I could modify ELKS > so it would run without a filesystem, and came up with a way of storing > binary im