Re: [LAD] new-session-management on jackaudio.org

2021-04-04 Thread Filipe Coelho
On 04/04/21 21:31, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: Hi all, Please refer to this thread on linuxmusicians.com forum, starting here: re. Non-Session-Manager fork descalation https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?p=130477#p130477 I'm not willing to open and engage into yet another discussion about the

Re: [LAD] new-session-management on jackaudio.org

2021-04-04 Thread Nils Hilbricht
On 04/04/21 21:31, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: >Although I still don't understand what jackaudio.org has to do with the >new(er)-session-management (aka "NSM fork") and why it is now moved from >linuxaudio.org to jackaudio.org. I am paraphrasing my answer from the LinuxMusiciansForum. I copied that

Re: [LAD] new-session-management on jackaudio.org

2021-04-04 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 10:01:53PM +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: > I remember Nils writing there very clearly with an explanation for the why. I see absolutely no problem with having NewSM hosted on jackaudio.org. > In my opinion jack-session API is too simple and lacks rules for client > behavi

Re: [LAD] new-session-management on jackaudio.org

2021-04-04 Thread Nils Hilbricht
>please read the subject line! >it's about the new-session-management move to jackaudio.org and only. >it is NOT about the merits, technical or otherwise, of session managers in >general nor NSM in particular. Then let me rephrase: Why should NSM not be hosted under jackaudio, since it is the ses

[LAD] new-session-management on jackaudio.org

2021-04-04 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
Hi all, Please refer to this thread on linuxmusicians.com forum, starting here: re. Non-Session-Manager fork descalation https://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?p=130477#p130477 I'm not willing to open and engage into yet another discussion about the so called "NSM fork", though I still don't

Re: [LAD] new-session-management on jackaudio.org

2021-04-04 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On 4/4/21 10:29 PM, Nils Hilbricht wrote: Then somebody interjected with "Note that Non-Session-Manager (NSM) is explicitly designed without any dependency to JACK." To which I responded: And it still is. You can use it with ALSA only, no sound programs at all or PipeWire. And so it will r

Re: [LAD] new-session-management on jackaudio.org

2021-04-04 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On 4/4/21 11:06 PM, Nils Hilbricht wrote: please read the subject line! it's about the new-session-management move to jackaudio.org and only. it is NOT about the merits, technical or otherwise, of session managers in general nor NSM in particular. Then let me rephrase: Why should NSM not be ho

Re: [LAD] new-session-management on jackaudio.org

2021-04-04 Thread rosea.grammostola
> > NSM's strict rules for client behaviour are what ensures that it will > be able to perform as promised. Something similar was missing in all > other Linux session manager systems I know of. So I'm very happy to > see Jack-session deprecated. > > Just my 2e-2 Euro of course. I think this is no