On 02/05/2013 03:58 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:
Greetings,
snip
I'm not so interested in comments on the commentary, I have my own, but
say what you will about the list. I figure that most denizens of these
lists already have ready replies and responses to these and other
criticisms, many of
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 2:29 AM, John Rigg lad...@jrigg.co.uk wrote:
To be fair I wasn't really slagging off Windows and Mac users. Most pro
audio
engineers are using those after all. I'm just bemused by the attitude that
audio processing tools should be anything more than that. Pretty
On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 12:03:41PM +0300, Louigi Verona wrote:
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 2:29 AM, John Rigg lad...@jrigg.co.uk wrote:
To be fair I wasn't really slagging off Windows and Mac users. Most pro
audio
engineers are using those after all. I'm just bemused by the attitude that
audio
Right, I hear you John. But I did look at pro mastering software on
Windows, I don't
remember any unnecessary restrictions.
My message would that I oppose this sort of a sweeping judgment of a whole
audio platform.
There might be some concrete examples, sure, but if you mean that in
general all or
On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 11:16:48AM +, John Rigg wrote:
By dumbed down I mean restricted in a way which may result in
inexperienced users making fewer mistakes, but will also inconvenience
more advanced users. An example of this would be a high mid EQ that won't
sweep above 8kHz. What if I
On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 02:20:58PM +0300, Louigi Verona wrote:
Right, I hear you John. But I did look at pro mastering software on
Windows, I don't
remember any unnecessary restrictions.
My message would that I oppose this sort of a sweeping judgment of a whole
audio platform.
There might be
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 11:16 AM, John Rigg lad...@jrigg.co.uk wrote:
I will stress that I'm talking about audio engineering tools, not music
creation software here. I do appreciate that users of the latter have very
different requirements.
I was reading your post, about to vocalize the
On 8 February 2013 02:02, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 04:25:19PM -0800, Michael Bechard wrote:
Counter-counter question: why not try and run MS Office, Outlook,
etc. under Linux ? More choice for the user !
Yep, that would be pretty cool.
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 01:02:13AM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
But do you really think that when doing a mix, the quality of the
final result will depend on which of the 15 or so general purpose
equalisers you use on any particular track ?
No, it depends on which esoteric piece of hardware
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:29 AM, John Rigg lad...@jrigg.co.uk wrote:
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 01:02:13AM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
But do you really think that when doing a mix, the quality of the
final result will depend on which of the 15 or so general purpose
equalisers you use on any
By the way, to once again put up a little defense of people on Windows and
Mac, I advice everyone to watch a masterclass with Ritchie Hawtin, a
popular minimal house producer and dj. It is available on YouTube and he
speaks about how he is using a modular software and hardware setup by using
MIDI
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 03:29:06PM +, John Rigg wrote:
No, it depends on which esoteric piece of hardware the pretty picture
on the GUI looks like, of course.
:-)
Digital emulations of well-known analog equalisers have become a genre
of their own... Usually the 'good imperfections'
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 09:55:14PM +0300, Louigi Verona wrote:
By the way, to once again put up a little defense of people on Windows and
Mac, I advice everyone to watch a masterclass with Ritchie Hawtin, a
popular minimal house producer and dj. It is available on YouTube and he
speaks about
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 10:14:58PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Digital emulations of well-known analog equalisers have become a genre
of their own... Usually the 'good imperfections' (noise, distortion,...)
are emulated as well, as if the creators of those EQs actually added
them on purpose.
On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 12:09:17PM -0500, Fred Gleason wrote:
I suspect that many of the points in your list about confusion and
fragmentation come from users who are expecting this One Perfect System
and are then disappointed by the reality of having to make choices and
exercise knowledge.
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 09:58:14AM -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:
Too many distros.
Too many audio-optimized distros.
What should be the problem here ? Natural selection will deal
with this. Those that 'work' will survive.
Confusion re: desktops, and GUI toolkits.
That's actually two issues.
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Michael Bechard gothma...@yahoo.com wrote:
Inconsistent support for VST/VSTi plugins.
Paul Davis has already pointed out that this can mean two
different things. If someone's workflow *really* depends on
native Windows plugins - repeat *if* repeat
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 03:47:44PM -0800, Michael Bechard wrote:
I'll counter your question with another one; regardless of a
user's workflow, why *wouldn't* we, as LAD's, want to enable
as many different kinds of plugins to work on Linux as possible?
From a user's perspective, having more
: Thursday, February 7, 2013 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [LAD] So what do you think sucks about Linux audio ?
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 03:47:44PM -0800, Michael Bechard wrote:
I'll counter your question with another one; regardless of a
user's workflow, why *wouldn't* we, as LAD's, want to enable
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 04:25:19PM -0800, Michael Bechard wrote:
Counter-counter question: why not try and run MS Office, Outlook,
etc. under Linux ? More choice for the user !
Yep, that would be pretty cool. Difficult, but cool. Does that mean
it's not worth putting effort into?
It's
On Wed, 2013-02-06 at 22:42 -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:
On 02/06/2013 10:24 PM, David Robillard wrote:
... We all complain
sometimes, but people who do nothing but complain are nothing but toxic.
I hope this thread didn't go that way, but I'm sure as hell not going to
read it to find
On Feb 5, 2013, at 09:58 14, Dave Phillips wrote:
I've been reading a lot of negative (read: vitriolic) commentary about the
world of Linux audio development and applications. I won't bother to say
where, just the usual places will have to suffice. Of greater interest to
me is the
On Tue, 2013-02-05 at 09:58 -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:
[...]
So, in your honest and bold opinion as user and/or developer, what do we
lack most and what can we do without that we already have ?
Well, post a thread about what people think sucks, and you'll get page
after page after page after
On 02/06/2013 10:24 PM, David Robillard wrote:
... We all complain
sometimes, but people who do nothing but complain are nothing but toxic.
I hope this thread didn't go that way, but I'm sure as hell not going to
read it to find out ;)
So far so good, I'm happy to report. I have a lot to
From: Dave Phillips dlphill...@woh.rr.com
To: linux-audio-u...@lists.linuxaudio.org; linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 8:58 AM
Subject: [LAD] So what do you think sucks about Linux audio ?
Greetings,
I've been reading a lot
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:58:14 -0500
Dave Phillips dlphill...@woh.rr.com wrote:
...
So, in your honest and bold opinion as user and/or developer, what do we
lack most and what can we do without that we already have ? Please feel
free to expand your remarks as you like. I'm planning an
On 02/05/2013 03:58 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:
So, in your honest and bold opinion as user and/or developer, what do we
lack most and what can we do without that we already have ?
Enlightenment.
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On Tuesday 05 February 2013 09.58.14 Dave Phillips wrote:
...
So, in your honest and bold opinion as user and/or
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Jostein Chr. Andersen jost...@vait.sewrote:
* A very geeky community. I see very often the answer:
read the ALSA matrix when a poor newbie or a
curious person asks for the best soundcards for Linux.
That something works in Linux does not mean
that
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Jostein Chr. Andersen
jost...@vait.sewrote:
* A very geeky community. I see very often the answer:
read the ALSA matrix when a poor newbie or a
curious person asks for the best soundcards for Linux.
That something works in Linux does not mean
1.) What else can I do, as a developer, to make users feel more involved?
Hey Davin!
One of the most responsive devs are those that
a. respond quickly
b. actively develop their software
c. integrate suggestions quickly
In Linux Audio excellent response I get from Rui on his Qtractor and on
Hi Dave!
This thread seems to have gathered a lot of replies and since I'm not home,
I can't read them right now. In the hope of not duplicating too much, here are
my thoughts:
The plugin-systems seem to get a little diverse. the problem from my
perspective is usability in text mode. These
On 02/05/2013 03:58 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:
Poor support for certain modes of composition (think Ableton Live).
Bitwig will hopefully soon provide that (proprietary software, though).
What sucks is that it won't support LV2 when it comes out, but at least
it's planned.
Concerning LV2 and the
Le Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:58:14 -0500,
Dave Phillips dlphill...@woh.rr.com a écrit :
Greetings,
I've been reading a lot of negative (read: vitriolic) commentary
about the world of Linux audio development and applications. I won't
bother to say where, just the usual places will have to suffice.
On 02/05/2013 06:15 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Jostein Chr. Andersen
jost...@vait.se mailto:jost...@vait.se wrote:
* A very geeky community. I see very often the answer:
read the ALSA matrix when a poor newbie or a
curious person asks for the
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