Re: Loss of connection to Half of the drives

2015-12-24 Thread Donald Pearson
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Donald Pearson posted on Wed, 23 Dec 2015 09:53:41 -0600 as excerpted: > >> Additionally real Raid10 will run circles around what BTRFS is doing in >> terms of performance. In the 20 drive array y

Re: Loss of connection to Half of the drives

2015-12-23 Thread Donald Pearson
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Donald Pearson posted on Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:56:29 -0600 as excerpted: > > >>> Also understand with Brfs RAID 10 you can't lose more than 1 drive >>> reliably. It's not like a stri

Re: Loss of connection to Half of the drives

2015-12-23 Thread Donald Pearson
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Goffredo Baroncelli <kreij...@inwind.it> wrote: > On 2015-12-23 16:53, Donald Pearson wrote: > [...] >> >> Additionally real Raid10 will run circles around what BTRFS is doing >> in terms of performance. In the 20 drive array you'r

Re: Loss of connection to Half of the drives

2015-12-22 Thread Donald Pearson
> > Also understand with Brfs RAID 10 you can't lose more than 1 drive > reliably. It's not like a strict raid1+0 where you can lose all of the > "copy 1" *OR* "copy 2" mirrors. Pardon my pea brain but this sounds like a pretty bad design flaw? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

defrag vs autodefrag

2015-12-20 Thread Donald Pearson
I read an implication in a different thread that defrag and autodefrag behave differently in that autodefrag is more snapshot friendly for COW data. Did I understand that correctly? I have not been doing defrag on my virtual machine image directory because I do use a snapshot schedule and the

Re: BTRFS Error - Rockstor

2015-11-12 Thread Donald Pearson
tch, want=12060305965056, have=13820656527619066643 > Couldn't read chunk tree > Couldn't open file system > [root@rockstor ~]# > > Thanks, > > Scotty Edmonds > sco...@scottyedmonds.com > > ____ > From: Donald Pearson <donaldwhpear...@g

Re: BTRFS Error - Rockstor

2015-11-12 Thread Donald Pearson
ds > sco...@scottyedmonds.com I think we need to see what some of the more experienced users think on this one. But you can try removing sdh and seeing if you can mount it *read only* and degraded. Just make sure whatever you do and play with is done read only. Don't try any fixes or repai

Re: BTRFS Error - Rockstor

2015-11-12 Thread Donald Pearson
What does btrfs check without any repair options report? btrfs check /dev/sdd On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Scotty Edmonds wrote: > Rockstor was running great, I ordered a SuperMicro 24-bay Chassis and decided > to power down the machine while I was away. When I

Re: Bad fs performance, IO freezes

2015-10-26 Thread Donald Pearson
t; > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:46 PM, cheater00 . <cheate...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I don't remember doing that, but just to exclude everything, how do I check? >> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Donald Pearson >> <donaldwhpear...@gmail.com> wrote: >>&g

Re: Bad fs performance, IO freezes

2015-10-26 Thread Donald Pearson
Accidentally didn't reply to the list the 1st time. I see the same issue when I have quotas enabled. If you have quotas on, see if turning them off helps. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:16 AM, cheater00 . wrote: > Hi guys, > I am running into really bad performance. Here's my

Re: Bad fs performance, IO freezes

2015-10-26 Thread Donald Pearson
the fstab says > that - could they be enabled in another way? How do I check for sure? > The man page doesn't say how to check the status: > https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Manpage/btrfs-quota > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Donald Pearson > <donaldwhpear...@gma

Re: RAID6 stable enough for production?

2015-10-14 Thread Donald Pearson
I would not use Raid56 in production. I've tried using it a few different ways but have run in to trouble with stability and performance. Raid10 has been working excellently for me. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Sjoerd wrote: > Hi all, > > Is RAID6 still considered

Re: RAID6 stable enough for production?

2015-10-14 Thread Donald Pearson
is though that over time your system will probably grow and expand and zfs is very locked in to the original configuration. Adding vdevs is a poor solution IMO. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Lionel Bouton <lionel-subscript...@bouton.name> wrote: > Le 14/10/2015 22:23, Donald Pearson a écr

Re: RAID6 stable enough for production?

2015-10-14 Thread Donald Pearson
. I ultimately decided to use btrfs on my personal equipment because it promises to be more organic and my commodity hardware definitely likes to play the organic role. :) On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Rich Freeman <r-bt...@thefreemanclan.net> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:53 P

Re: filesystem goes ro trying to balance. "cpu stuck"

2015-10-12 Thread Donald Pearson
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Donald Pearson posted on Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:46:14 -0500 as excerpted: > >> Kernel 4.2.2-1.el7.elrepo btrfs-progs v4.2.1 >> >> I'm attempting to convert a filesystem from raid6 to raid10. I

filesystem goes ro trying to balance. "cpu stuck"

2015-10-11 Thread Donald Pearson
Kernel 4.2.2-1.el7.elrepo btrfs-progs v4.2.1 I'm attempting to convert a filesystem from raid6 to raid10. I didn't have any functional problems with it, but performance is abysmal compared to basically the same arrangement in raid10 so I thought I'd just get away from raid56 for a while (I also

Re: Anyone tried out btrbk yet?

2015-07-25 Thread Donald Pearson
see corresponding disk i/o, and the process goes away after a reasonable amount of time. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback Duncan. It doesn't appear to be a big deal to disable quotas so that's what I'll do for now. On Tue

Re: Anyone tried out btrbk yet?

2015-07-21 Thread Donald Pearson
Thanks for the feedback Duncan. It doesn't appear to be a big deal to disable quotas so that's what I'll do for now. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:29 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Donald Pearson posted on Mon, 20 Jul 2015 08:33:47 -0500 as excerpted: Also, FWIW, the btrfs quota subsystem

Re: Anyone tried out btrbk yet?

2015-07-20 Thread Donald Pearson
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:28 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Donald Pearson posted on Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:15:26 -0500 as excerpted: I'm starting to think there's something wrong with creating and removing snapshots that leaves btrfs-cleaner either locked up or nearly so. If the btrfs

Re: Anyone tried out btrbk yet?

2015-07-19 Thread Donald Pearson
backup.virtual_machines.hourly [root@san01 virtual_machines]# date Mon Jul 20 00:14:05 CDT 2015 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Marc MERLIN m...@merlins.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 01:02:29PM -0500, Donald Pearson wrote: BTW, is anybody else experiencing btrfs-cleaner consuming heavy resources for a very long time

Re: Anyone tried out btrbk yet?

2015-07-15 Thread Donald Pearson
%CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 4134 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 100.0 0.0 2:41.40 btrfs-cleaner 4183 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 99.7 0.0 191:11.33 btrfs-cleaner On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: Implementation question

Re: Anyone tried out btrbk yet?

2015-07-15 Thread Donald Pearson
Implementation question about your scripts Marc.. I've set up some routines for different backup and retention intervals and periods in cron but quickly ran in to stepping on my own toes by the locking mechanism. I could just disable the locking but I'm not sure if that's the best approach and I

kernel crash - btrfs check shows extent buffer leak; Suggestions?

2015-07-13 Thread Donald Pearson
Last time something happened and I poked at it myself I ended up ruining the pool so I thought I'd ask here before doing anything. I'm not sure if this really indicates that anything needs doing or not. The filesystem will mount like normal. It doesn't look like the core dump was written

Re: Did btrfs filesystem defrag just make things worse?

2015-07-11 Thread Donald Pearson
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Donald Pearson posted on Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:57:46 -0500 as excerpted: If I'm reading this right, my most fragmented file (Training-flat.vmdk) is now almost 3x more fragmented? [snip to context for brevity] # filefrag

Did btrfs filesystem defrag just make things worse?

2015-07-10 Thread Donald Pearson
If I'm reading this right, my most fragmented file (Training-flat.vmdk) is now almost 3x more fragmented? [root@san01 tank]# filefrag /mnt2/tank/virtual_machines/virtual_machines/Training/* /mnt2/tank/virtual_machines/virtual_machines/Training/Training-flat.vmdk: 1444 extents found

Re: Anyone tried out btrbk yet?

2015-07-09 Thread Donald Pearson
Marc, I thought I'd yours a try, and I'm probably embarassing myself here but I'm running in to this issue. Centos 7. [root@san01 tank]# ./btrfs-subvolume-backup store /mnt2/backups ./btrfs-subvolume-backup: line 177: shlock: command not found /var/run/btrfs-subvolume-backup held for

Re: Anyone tried out btrbk yet?

2015-07-09 Thread Donald Pearson
... and I just found your other block about stealing shlock out of inn. Officially embarassed! On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: Marc, I thought I'd yours a try, and I'm probably embarassing myself here but I'm running in to this issue. Centos 7

Odd scrub behavior - Raid5/6

2015-07-09 Thread Donald Pearson
Something I've noticed scrubbing two pools that I have, one is Raid6 and the other is Raid5. The scrubbing goes along very slowly and I think it's because there is always one disk that's operating differently than the rest. Which disk changes. Here is an iostat of the current scrub, and you can

Re: size 2.73TiB used 240.97GiB after balance

2015-07-08 Thread Donald Pearson
Basically I wouldn't trust the drive that's already showing signs of failure to survive a dd. It isn't completely full, so the recover is less load. That's just the way I see it. But I see your point of trying to get drive images now to hedge against failures. Unfortunately those errors are

Re: size 2.73TiB used 240.97GiB after balance

2015-07-08 Thread Donald Pearson
(empty) drive, so that the data on the two original disks is not touched at all? Regards, Hendrik On 07.07.2015 15:14, Donald Pearson wrote: That's what it looks like. You may want to try reseating cables, etc. Instead of mounting and file copy, btrfs restore might be worth a shot

Re: size 2.73TiB used 240.97GiB after balance

2015-07-07 Thread Donald Pearson
is failing?! Regards, Hendrik On 07.07.2015 00:59, Donald Pearson wrote: Anything in dmesg? On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:07 PM, hend...@friedels.name hend...@friedels.name wrote: Hallo, It seems, that mounting works, but the System locks completely soon after I backing up. Greetings

Re: size 2.73TiB used 240.97GiB after balance

2015-07-06 Thread Donald Pearson
Based on my experience Hugo's advice is critical, get the bad drive out of the pool when in raid56 and do not try to replace or delete it while it's still attached and recognized. If you add a new device, mount degraded and rebalance. If you don't, mount degraded then device delete missing. On

Re: size 2.73TiB used 240.97GiB after balance

2015-07-06 Thread Donald Pearson
Anything in dmesg? On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:07 PM, hend...@friedels.name hend...@friedels.name wrote: Hallo, It seems, that mounting works, but the System locks completely soon after I backing up. Greetings, Hendrik -- Originalnachricht-- Von: Donald Pearson Datum: Mo., 6

Re: size 2.73TiB used 240.97GiB after balance

2015-07-06 Thread Donald Pearson
for consistency (scrub I suppose, but is it safe?)? Regards, Hendrik On 06.07.2015 22:52, Omar Sandoval wrote: On 07/06/2015 01:01 PM, Donald Pearson wrote: Based on my experience Hugo's advice is critical, get the bad drive out of the pool when in raid56 and do not try to replace or delete

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-03 Thread Donald Pearson
) On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: On Friday 03 July 2015 09:31:03 Duncan wrote: Donald Pearson posted on Thu, 02 Jul 2015 13:19:41 -0500 as excerpted: btrfs restore complains that every device is missing except the one that you specify on executing

Re: btrfs full, but not full, can't rebalance

2015-07-03 Thread Donald Pearson
used 5.00GiB path /dev/loop2 Btrfs v3.16.2 On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: Because this is raid1 I believe you need another for that to work. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Rich Rauenzahn rraue...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I tried

Re: btrfs full, but not full, can't rebalance

2015-07-03 Thread Donald Pearson
during balancing '/' - No space left on device There may be more info in syslog - try dmesg | tail On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:45 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: Have you seen this article? I think the interesting part for you is the balance cannot run because

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-02 Thread Donald Pearson
, 2015 at 9:31 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the drive vomiting in my logs after it got halfway through the dd image attempt. Jul 1 17:05:51 san01 kernel: sd 0:0:6:0: [sdg] FAILED Result

Re: btrfs full, but not full, can't rebalance

2015-07-02 Thread Donald Pearson
Have you seen this article? I think the interesting part for you is the balance cannot run because the filesystem is full heading. http://marc.merlins.org/perso/btrfs/post_2014-05-04_Fixing-Btrfs-Filesystem-Full-Problems.html On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Rich Rauenzahn rraue...@gmail.com

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-02 Thread Donald Pearson
assemble all the data that I know how to and follow that link Chris suggested for filing a bug. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: I do see plenty of complaints about the sdg drive

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-02 Thread Donald Pearson
I think it is. I have another raid5 pool that I've created to test the restore function on, and it worked. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately btrfs image

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-02 Thread Donald Pearson
That is correct. I'm going to rebalance my raid5 pool as raid6 and re-test just because. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is. I have another raid5 pool

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-02 Thread Donald Pearson
13:48 test_file_1gb [root@san01 btrfs-progs]# On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: That is correct. I'm going to rebalance my raid5 pool as raid6 and re-test just because. On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-01 Thread Donald Pearson
` screen so I expect it's still running. There are 4 other drives with the same total capacity as sdg so I would have expected then to normally all complete at about the same time. Regards, Donald On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Chris

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-01 Thread Donald Pearson
Thanks Chris, To my shame it turns out darkling didn't drop off IRC after all; I'm new to all this and learning quickly that I need to sit on my hands. I admit despite darkling's suggestion that my usertools are probably fine I pulled down a newer kernel from elrepo so currently I'm running

Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-01 Thread Donald Pearson
Hello, darkling was helping me on IRC for a while before he had to drop off, thanks for the help darkling. To pick up where we left off... In summary, I have a 10 disk raid6 pool that I cannot mount. btrfs fi show output is here - http://pastebin.com/aidGV20e 'tank' is the pool in question.

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-01 Thread Donald Pearson
error on dev sdg, logical block 189496912, async page read On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: Small update on this, with no idea if this is useful information or not. At some point within the last hour iostat shows that /dev/sdg is no longer under

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-01 Thread Donald Pearson
): 0x01332100 *** Segmentation fault On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: I should have thought to check this to add earlier. I'm seeing errors for /dev/sdg in dmesg (not surprised, I wanted this drive out of the pool to begin with because it's

Re: Any hope of pool recovery?

2015-07-01 Thread Donald Pearson
kernel: sd 0:0:6:0: [sdg] CDB: Read(10) 28 00 5a 5b f2 e0 00 01 00 00 On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Donald Pearson donaldwhpear...@gmail.com wrote: *** Error in `./btrfs': free(): invalid next size (fast