Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-11 Thread Richard Gooch
PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THE CC LIST. BTW: I'm on holidays and won't be replying to email for a while. Richard B. Johnson writes: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > [SNIPPED] > > > > that we provide source to the end-user, they required that we supply > a > > > "current" distribution of L

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-10 Thread David Lang
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-10 Thread Jamie Lokier
Richard B. Johnson wrote: > According to our Legal Department, to satisfy the GPL requirement > that we provide source to the end-user, they required that we supply a > "current" distribution of Linux if the end-user requests it. There /is/ no single "current" distribution. *A* current distribut

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-10 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 08:07:38PM -0500, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > No. According to our Legal Department, to satisfy the GPL requirement > that we provide source to the end-user, they required that we supply a > "current" distribution of Linux if the end-user requests it. Cobalt's lawyers seem

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-10 Thread Hans Reiser
Alexander Viro wrote: * Inodes got a new field: i_bdev. Filesystems should not worry > about it - just remember to call init_special_inode() when you are > initializing device/fifo/socket in-core inode (in foo_read_inode() or in > foo_mknod(); all filesystems in the tree are doing it now)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-10 Thread Vladimir Dergachev
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > > >Richard B. Johnson wrote: > >> For instance, there was a simple new change in the type of > >> an object passed to poll and friends. This just cost me two > >> weeks of unpaid work!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-10 Thread Jeff Millar
- Original Message - From: "Richard B. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > No. According to our Legal Department, to satisfy the GPL requirement > that we provide source to the end-user, they required that we supply a > "current" distribution of Linux if the end-user requests it. Your legal p

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-09 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > > >Richard B. Johnson wrote: > >> For instance, there was a simple new change in the type of > >> an object passed to poll and friends. This just cost me two > >> weeks of unpaid work!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-09 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: >Richard B. Johnson wrote: >> For instance, there was a simple new change in the type of >> an object passed to poll and friends. This just cost me two >> weeks of unpaid work! Unpaid because I had to hide it. If >> anyone in Product

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-09 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Richard B. Johnson wrote: > For instance, there was a simple new change in the type of > an object passed to poll and friends. This just cost me two > weeks of unpaid work! Unpaid because I had to hide it. If > anyone in Production Engineering had learned about this, the > stuff

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-09 Thread Jamie Lokier
Richard B. Johnson wrote: > For instance, there was a simple new change in the type of > an object passed to poll and friends. This just cost me two > weeks of unpaid work! Unpaid because I had to hide it. If > anyone in Production Engineering had learned about this, the > stuff would have been th

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-09 Thread Martin Dalecki
"Richard B. Johnson" wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > > > Folks, there are changes underway in block device interface and > > some of them made it into 2.3.38. > [SNIP...] > > Good grief Charley Brown! You, in a few key-strokes, just blew away > major portions of the

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-09 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > The industrial use of Linux is not at the desktop. Industrial use of Linux usually doesn't involve the kernels which are marked as `development', ie. where the `middle' version number is odd and where major things are expected to change. People ve

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-09 Thread Abramo Bagnara
Alan Cox wrote: > > Linux isnt at war. War involves large numbers of people making losing decisions > that harm each other in a vain attempt to lose last. Linux is about winning. Wonderful!!! (wrt Linux but too better wrt war) Can I cite that? ;-) -- Abramo Bagnara mailto

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-08 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > Good grief Charley Brown! You, in a few key-strokes, just blew away > major portions of the work done over the past few years by software > engineers who ported their drivers to Linux. Linux will never be > accepted as a 'professional' operating sys

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-08 Thread Khimenko Victor
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Richard B. Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: >> Folks, there are changes underway in block device interface and >> some of them made it into 2.3.38. > [SNIP...] > Good grief Charley Brown! You, in a few key-strokes, just b

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-08 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > > > Folks, there are changes underway in block device interface and > > some of them made it into 2.3.38. > [SNIP...] > > Good grief Charley Brown! You, in a few key-strokes, just blew away > major

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-08 Thread Alan Cox
> Good grief Charley Brown! You, in a few key-strokes, just blew away > major portions of the work done over the past few years by software > engineers who ported their drivers to Linux. Linux will never be > accepted as a 'professional' operating system if this continues. Hardly. You obviously d

Re: [ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-08 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Alexander Viro wrote: > Folks, there are changes underway in block device interface and > some of them made it into 2.3.38. [SNIP...] Good grief Charley Brown! You, in a few key-strokes, just blew away major portions of the work done over the past few years by software

[ANNOUNCE] block device interfaces changes

2000-01-08 Thread Alexander Viro
Folks, there are changes underway in block device interface and some of them made it into 2.3.38. * New type (struct block_device) is defined. We have a cache of such objects, indexed by dev_t. struct block_device * is going to replace kdev_t for block devices. Handling of the cac