Announcing: Updated cellphone script.

2000-06-01 Thread Alon Altman
Hi, I have just released an updated version of Nadav Harel's cellphone script, with new options for rotating cellcom/orange accounts and using a config file. In addition, I have also released a script to convert e-mail messages to SMS messages for the well known application of e-mail to SMS.

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Omer Musaev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ism) wrote: > > On Wed, 31 May 2000, you wrote: > > > i can burn linux for 30NIS, for all israel, i will sent it by mail > > > http://buy.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?path=319&id=4818 > > > any Distributions you want... > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > would you please stop this c

My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Chen Shapira
> Comparing linux to warez... well there is one american linux vendor, > which sells warez, put it into nasty installer and > claims that it is selling linux distro. Nowadys, there is one French > one, too. Ouch. The fact that Debian Gnu/Linux is the only free speach distribution doesn't make

php / isracard validation

2000-06-01 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Hi All Any one have script for php that validate isracard ? there are many scripts over the internet but all support just the international cards. -- -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-6-6925757 Fax: 972-6-6925858 http://w

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Omer Musaev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chen Shapira) wrote: > > > Comparing linux to warez... well there is one american linux vendor, > > > which sells warez, put it into nasty installer and > > > claims that it is selling linux distro. Nowadys, there is one French > > > one, too. > > > > Ouch. > > The fac

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Chen Shapira wrote: > Ouch. > The fact that Debian Gnu/Linux is the only free speach distribution doesn't > make RedHat and Mandrake illegal software trafficers. Not any more than Sun > is. Some of us treat propriety software as uniform badness. This isn't strictly true (noti

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Omer Musaev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Moshe Zadka) wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Chen Shapira wrote: > > > > > Ouch. > > > The fact that Debian Gnu/Linux is the only free speach distribution doesn't > > > make RedHat and Mandrake illegal software trafficers. Not any more than Sun > > > is. > > > > Some of

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Evgeny Zemlerub
> > Third - the problem with Mandrake is that they suck. The problem with RH And why exectly Mandrake suck ??? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread OR
warez? 30 Nis is to much? it's legal to sell linux cd, there was here a massage about geting linux and i think thet my way is cheaper and faster the anouter way's. >On Wed, 31 May 2000, you wrote: >> i can burn linux for 30NIS, for all israel, i will sent it by mail >> http://buy.walla.co.il/ts.

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread OR
belive me i don't see money from burning linux. i think that 30NIS is cheap price/ -Original Message- From: Omer Musaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: OR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: éåí çîéùé 01 éåðé 2000 12:47 Subject: Re: need 4 R

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread OR
selling download's CD is legal. where you got the idea that is illegal? > >> Comparing linux to warez... well there is one american linux vendor, >> which sells warez, put it into nasty installer and >> claims that it is selling linux distro. Nowadys, there is one French >> one, too. > >Ouch. >Th

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Ariel Biener
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, OR wrote: > warez? 30 Nis is to much? > it's legal to sell linux cd, there was here a massage about geting linux and > i think thet my way is cheaper and faster the anouter way's. > 30nis is *not* overcharging, depending on the service being provided. If the service includes

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Omer Musaev wrote: > Objection. > I would be happy to have someone to burn certain archives for me. I > think that burning is a very lousy process - you have to have a > spare comp, you have to buy media, you have to download content, you > have to cut images, you have to chec

The Myth of Open Source Security

2000-06-01 Thread Subba Rao
For the sake of discussion, here is an interesting article on Open source security. http://developer.earthweb.com/journal/techfocus/052600_security.html Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ => Time is relative. Here is a new way to look at time. <= http://www.smcinnovati

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Shapira Home Mail
NIS 30 is not too much if we were talking about a computer game, MS windows, or anything else. BUT, we are talking about linux, and teh most important thing in linux is the fact that it shouldn't cost money. therefore I want to clarify my initial proposal: I am willing to write linux for anyone,

RE: The Myth of Open Source Security

2000-06-01 Thread Chen Shapira
> For the sake of discussion, here is an interesting article on > Open source security. > > http://developer.earthweb.com/journal/techfocus/052600_security.html Too bad he doesn't discuss the most important thing: time laps between the moment the security problem is found and the moment a fix i

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Ely Levy
Well we already had that discution before So I would politly ask that next time someone need a cd please reply him in person as we dont' need two million people advertising thier cd selling on the list. as for leagal problem concidering redhat and madrake selling as far as I know there isn't any

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
OM>> I have to rant. First, MS does good things too. look at OM>> http://research.microsoft.com Yeah. Lots of good things there, like: Linda Stone Appointed To New Position Moving On Up: Rick Rashid And Dan Ling Promoted Hails to Linda, Rick and Dan! But, now microsoft has the answer for tho

Re: The Myth of Open Source Security

2000-06-01 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
SR>> For the sake of discussion, here is an interesting article on SR>> Open source security. Well, I guess all those articles just say one thing people should know from start: "There's no silver bullet". Like, no, Open Source is not silver bullet either. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There sh

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Omer Musaev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo) wrote: > > OM>> Third - the problem with Mandrake is that they suck. > > > > Do they? Did you experience this personally or somebody told you? A friend of a friend of neighbour of my sister told me. Dont tell anyone. > > Was it good or at le

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
SHM>> NIS 30 is not too much if we were talking about a computer game, MS windows, SHM>> or anything else. SHM>> BUT, we are talking about linux, and teh most important thing in linux is SHM>> the fact that it shouldn't cost money. Oh, yeah? And then you would be insulted when someone says "Linux

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Shapira Home Mail
> SHM>> NIS 30 is not too much if we were talking about a computer game, MS windows, > SHM>> or anything else. > SHM>> BUT, we are talking about linux, and teh most important thing in linux is > SHM>> the fact that it shouldn't cost money. > > Oh, yeah? And then you would be insulted when someon

Re: need 4 RH-6.2 ?

2000-06-01 Thread ism
On Thu, 01 Jun 2000, you wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, OR wrote: > > > warez? 30 Nis is to much? > > it's legal to sell linux cd, there was here a massage about geting linux and > > i think thet my way is cheaper and faster the anouter way's. > > > > 30nis is *not* overcharging, depending on th

Converting mail

2000-06-01 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi all, Any of you had experiance with converting mail messages from Pegasus Mail format to Pine / X based mail client ? Amichai Rotman (SBY) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the me

Re: PPP problem

2000-06-01 Thread Shaul Karl
I tend to say that what you described is a problem with your modem init string but this does not explains how all was well so far. Anyway, as far as I know Netvision gives free support for Linux questions even to people who are not its customers. Seems to me your problem falls in an area they m

Re: SUSE in Israel

2000-06-01 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Saw Suse 6.4 from PF1, kill me if I know the price. There is another resller in Israel, but I don't know it's name. more info in SuSE website, and pf1's one. Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Anyone who considers arithmetical methods of producing random digits is, of course, in a state of sin"

RE: SUSE in Israel - actually it was 6.4

2000-06-01 Thread Iftach Hyams
~ Ask not for whom the bell tolls, and you will pay only the station-to-station rate ~ Iftach Hyams[EMAIL PROTECTED]972-4-8315605 > -- > From: Orr Dunkelman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent:

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Ely Levy wrote: > as for leagal problem concidering redhat and madrake selling > as far as I know there isn't any leagal problem with it now .. no problem redistributing the FREE version, at times reffered to as the "GPL CD Image" although it contains some non-GPL software l

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Ira! On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 08:30:29PM +0300, you wrote the following: > > but you need to offer the sources too AFAIK.. > > the original owner of the software has to offer them, and that's not > even redhat (they just repackage) They also have to offer sources because they distribute bin

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Shapira Home Mail wrote: > BUT, we are talking about linux, and teh most important thing in linux is > the fact that it shouldn't cost money. my friend, you are confusing free beer with free speech. Linux is free as in free speech. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Yanai Krutman
Hi netters, Omer Musaev wrote about the "half-ignorance" of RH, concluding his remarks writing about the inability of RH to produce good software. Omer could you please give us few examples on bad results using RH? Yanai == = Yanai

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Yanai Krutman wrote: > Hi netters, > > Omer Musaev wrote about the "half-ignorance" of RH, concluding > his remarks writing about the inability of RH to produce good > software. Omer could you please give us few examples on bad results > using RH? As the people in Aduva, and

Re: SUSE in Israel

2000-06-01 Thread Yanai Krutman
Netters, SuSE Resellers in Israel PF1 Systems Ltd Maayan Klein 114 Derech Petach Tikva 67012 Tel-Aviv Tel.: +972 3 56 17 175 FAX: +972 3 56 23 607

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread David Tabachnikov (NetHunter)
Shapira Home Mail wrote: > > NIS 30 is not too much if we were talking about a computer game, MS windows, > or anything else. > BUT, we are talking about linux, and teh most important thing in linux is > the fact that it shouldn't cost money. > therefore I want to clarify my initial proposal: > I

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Ira Abramov wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Yanai Krutman wrote: > > > Hi netters, > > > > Omer Musaev wrote about the "half-ignorance" of RH, concluding > > his remarks writing about the inability of RH to produce good > > software. Omer could you please give us few examples o

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread OR
30 nis is not much for linux! , is almost free! if some one lived in haifa, then he need to buy the disk,send you the disk by mail, and add money that you will send him the disk,it cost almost 40 nis. i dont have a problem thet your born, BUT if not free > >NIS 30 is not too much if we were ta

Re: need 4 RH-6.2

2000-06-01 Thread OR
you right, linux is free BUT i dont need to pay about the disk and about the sending it by mail, if you want something you need to pay. nothing is FREE ,it cost money even if you go to burn it form someone. >Since when the main thing about Linux became its price? I believe the >main thing behind

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Itamar S Maltz
I really don't understand this whole flame RedHat deal. I run it in my room as a workstation.. very stable and i hardly ever had any problems with "package mismatch", all of Knet's Servers farm run on RedHat including the NOC, and till now it's very stable. personally.. my choice to put on those

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
IA>> As the people in Aduva, and possibly all Debian addicts will tell you, IA>> "Kakha lo bonim khoma". Red Hat is a mishmash of packages which are too Yeah. And if you ask Hapoel fans about how good Maccabi plays, you'd get best opinion available :) IA>> often badly coordinated with suboptimal

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Itamar S Maltz wrote: > I really don't understand this whole flame RedHat deal. > I run it in my room as a workstation.. very stable and i hardly ever had any > problems with "package mismatch", all of Knet's Servers farm run on RedHat > including the NOC, and till now it's ve

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Alex Shnitman
Hi, Itamar! On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 10:27:53PM +0300, you wrote the following: > I really don't understand this whole flame RedHat deal. > I run it in my room as a workstation.. very stable and i hardly ever had any > problems with "package mismatch", all of Knet's Servers farm run on RedHat > i

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Yanai Krutman
Hi, > > As the people in Aduva, and possibly all Debian addicts will tell you, > "Kakha lo bonim khoma". Red Hat is a mishmash of packages which are too > often badly coordinated with suboptimal defaults. Sadly in a way, it's > the de-facto standard in today's market, so use Mandrake instead of

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Yanai Krutman wrote: > Why SGI selected RH as their carrier to implement > the 4 Intel based LinuX machine? they claim their SGI-Linux is distribuution-free, but if you want it auto installed (i,e, not patch things manually and all) they have a self-installer for Red Hat, but

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Henry Ficher
Alex Shnitman wrote: > > Hi, Itamar! > .. so if anyone has suggestions of a good hardware > store in Jerusalem to make friends with, I'll be very glad to hear.) > > -- > Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org Ever heard of Aba Computers? Not a good hardware store, bu

Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-01 Thread Itamar S Maltz
Actually.. I'm hardly a RH advocate, just wanted to read a decent debate about the subject, and yeah.. i've tried it.. still do.. run it on one of the machines here. i was expecting one of you to bring slackware on to the topic. oh well. Generic means for me atleast, out-of-the-box.. want a proxy

SUSE in Israel

2000-06-01 Thread Iftach Hyams
If it is news - In "Atid Mahshevim" I saw the Suse 6.2 package for 280 Sheqalim. ~ Ask not for whom the bell tolls, and you will pay only the station-to-station rate ~ Iftach Hyams[EMAIL PROTECTED]972-4-8315605

Re: SUSE in Israel

2000-06-01 Thread ism
On Thu, 01 Jun 2000, you wrote: > If it is news - In "Atid Mahshevim" I saw the Suse 6.2 package for 280 > Sheqalim. > Yes, it is news. Actually.. i've been talking with thier manager about importing other dists aswell, and commented about the bloated price. It is news, i'm just not sure if the

Pango Status Report, 31 May 2000 (fwd)

2000-06-01 Thread Moshe Zadka
-- Moshe Zadka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.oreilly.com/news/prescod_0300.html http://www.linux.org.il -- we put the penguin in .com -- Forwarded message -- Date: 31 May 2000 14:48:55 -0400 From: Owen Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pango Status Repor

RE: The Myth of Open Source Security

2000-06-01 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Chen Shapira wrote: Slight correction: > Too bad he doesn't discuss the most important thing: time laps between the > moment the security problem is found and the moment a fix is released. > (define these loosly: fixed means a patch apears on redhat site, and found > means an