Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)

2009-02-17 Thread Micha Silver
Shlomi Fish wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2009 14:23:23 Dotan Cohen wrote: Compiling a Kernel was a new thing in 1995, when I started doing it. Now it's usually not necessary for the average user to do, and IMHO saying that you had to do it to access a device would scare aw

RE: linux service daemon

2009-02-17 Thread Biran, Yahav (Yahav)
2009/2/18 BIRAN, Yahav (Yahav) : > [Yahav Biran] the application is running on RH AS 5. its is a java process (activemq 5.2.0). > Im trying to have a running daemon that is starting and stopping automatically (this is already achieved) the problem is when the process is aborted in unlikely event.

Re: How You Can Help the Tel Aviv Open Source Club

2009-02-17 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Tue, 17 Feb: > > We have a Google Calendar. Search for "Google Calendar" on I know, I've been subscribed to it for a while. > > I'm not on FB and won't be on it for the near future, so that's > > not a good option for advertising to me. > > Facebook is not

flash (youtube) works in firefox, but not in konqueror

2009-02-17 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Hi, I wonder if anyone has seen/solved the following problem: Fedora 10 on x86_64 (AMD) with kdebase-4.2.0-2.fc10.x86_64, firefox-3.0.6-1.fc10.x86_64, kernel-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.x86_64, libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz from Adobe installed as /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflas

Re: No noobs?

2009-02-17 Thread Omer Zak
No, noobs (which I understand to mean newbies) should be put in the metaphorical kindergarten and allowed to grow there. On the other hand, oldtimers should be encouraged to volunteer in the kindergarten - but not required to subject themselves to the distractions of the kindergarten.

Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)

2009-02-17 Thread Moshe Brace using Yahoo
Good evening Shlomi, I am in the club a newbe that often racks his brains for answers. I still find it difficult to deal with a compressed .tar file and install it. I am sure that for the experienced they do this with their eyes closed. Sometimes I get the /home/moshe/desktop/. does not exis

Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)

2009-02-17 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 14:23:23 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Compiling a Kernel was a new thing in 1995, when I started doing it. Now > > it's usually not necessary for the average user to do, and IMHO saying > > that you had to do it to access a device would scare away the average new > > user. > >

Re: linux service daemon

2009-02-17 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/18 BIRAN, Yahav (Yahav) : > [Yahav Biran] the application is running on RH AS 5. its is a java process > (activemq 5.2.0). > Im trying to have a running daemon that is starting and stopping > automatically (this is already achieved) the problem is when the process is > aborted in unlikely

Re: Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/17 sammy ominsky : > Hi, > > As a follow-up to Geoff's post the other day about using one of the cell > providers' offerings for home internet access, I thought I'd post this > device... > > http://www.option.com/en/products/products/wireless-routers/x1/about/#start > > A cell-to-wifi/ethern

Re: linux service daemon

2009-02-17 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/2/18 Biran, Yahav (Yahav) : > > Is there any where a simple manual on how setting linux service. > I managed to create such for auto start and stop but I never manage to work > with the probe: true. Basic question-asking tricks (there must be more complete list in the welcome e-mail or somewh

linux service daemon

2009-02-17 Thread Biran, Yahav (Yahav)
Is there any where a simple manual on how setting linux service. I managed to create such for auto start and stop but I never manage to work with the probe: true. yahav ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailm

Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Amichai Rotman
Gabor, The solution is simple. I am guessing you've recently installed Ubuntu 8.10, so I bet you haven't installed the 'usbmount' package. Undo any changes you've made, reboot (just to be on the safe side) then install *usbmount* and try again. It worked for me as soon as I installed the packge

Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Oren Held
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 15:00:29 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I'm not that excited. > > But it's a start. > > > > Leumi-card site still doesn't work. (Though they do detect that you are > > using Firefox and send you to download IE-Tab plugin) > > Gilboa, did you write to them and let them know that

Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> No, they did some fairly horrible tricks to make the thing appear as two > devices - a disk on key and a CD rom containing the U3 software. Like I > said, the problems we're having in Linux are nothing in comparison to the > problems these disks cause on Windows, where they are supposed to run. >

Re: Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily "YES")

2009-02-17 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Haifux will also be happy to host you. Pick any free Monday which is not a holiday... 2009/2/17 Erez D : > hi > > After a Few Years of receiving TV via satellite from many parts of the > world, (using linux of course) > I was think of giving a presentation of "sattelite TV and linux" > > do you th

Re: Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily "YES")

2009-02-17 Thread Erez D
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 03:17:30PM +0200, Erez D wrote: > > I live in tel aviv, and currently work in herzeliya so it will probably be >> herzlinux/telux >> >> about english, that ok with me, but depends on the audiance. >> (the pre

Re: Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily "YES")

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 03:17:30PM +0200, Erez D wrote: I live in tel aviv, and currently work in herzeliya so it will probably be herzlinux/telux about english, that ok with me, but depends on the audiance. (the presentation will be in english anyway) Oh well. :-( This is a too-long of tit

Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 15:00 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I'm not that excited. > > But it's a start. > > > > Leumi-card site still doesn't work. (Though they do detect that you are > > using Firefox and send you to download IE-Tab plugin) > > > > Gilboa, did you write to them and let them know th

Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 22:19 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I think we should send them a really fancy letter with a few dozen > > signatures, saying thanks for finally fixing it. I'm not cynical. they > > got "nags" and negative rap from us all the years, they need to get > > appreciation too. > > >

Re: Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily "YES")

2009-02-17 Thread Erez D
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:17:35PM +0200, Erez D wrote: > >> hi >> >> After a Few Years of receiving TV via satellite from many parts of the >> world, (using linux of course) >> I was think of giving a presentation of "sattelite TV a

Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> I'm not that excited. > But it's a start. > > Leumi-card site still doesn't work. (Though they do detect that you are > using Firefox and send you to download IE-Tab plugin) > Gilboa, did you write to them and let them know that it is not viable for Linux users? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-

Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:14:02PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: At least on my SanDisk Cruzer, that was relatively harmless on Linux. On Windows, these lines suggest that any time you put the drive in it launches the horrible U3 system and starts messing with your

Re: Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily "YES")

2009-02-17 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 13:17:35 Erez D wrote: > hi > > After a Few Years of receiving TV via satellite from many parts of the > world, (using linux of course) > I was think of giving a presentation of "sattelite TV and linux" > > do you think people will be interested ? > We'd be interested t

Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Can you just mount the raw device and reformat it? > It actually needs to be repartitioned! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه‍-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М

Re: Bank Leumi site finally works from Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 01:07 +0200, guy keren wrote: > Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 13:27 +0200, Yuval Hager wrote: > >> I was happily amazed to find out that the new revamped site of Bank Leumi > >> fully works using Opera on Linux. I also tested FF, and it seems to work > >> fi

Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Compiling a Kernel was a new thing in 1995, when I started doing it. Now > it's usually not necessary for the average user to do, and IMHO saying that > you had to do it to access a device would scare away the average new user. > > As for writing a driver, it's not a noob thing, it's not even an

Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:42:07PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: The problem is, what is a noob question? If I've been running Linux since 2001 (and I have- Red Hat 7,1 with KDE 2) but I still don't know how to compile a kernel (and I don't), then am I a noob? If I install Kubuntu for a friend and h

Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Arie Skliarouk
Hi, On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:24, Gabor Szabo wrote: > I have just bought an 8Gb SanDisk Cruzer Micro (USB 2.0) disk on key. > I plugged it in my computer, the reassuring red light came on but Ubuntu > 8.10 > did not recognize it. > > [...] > Feb 17 12:23:12 notebook kernel: [1373857.205040] s

Re: Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Just to amplify that, the things I watch, I can't watch with my kids > around. They won't sit still for dialog and want me to change the channel, > make them something to eat, etc. > Dialog in pr0n? I hate that! > The only way I can watch them if they are home, is on the computer, with > a set

Re: Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily "YES")

2009-02-17 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Erez D wrote: hi After a Few Years of receiving TV via satellite from many parts of the world, (using linux of course) I was think of giving a presentation of "sattelite TV and linux" do you think people will be interested ? I'm interested! Pick any Thursday in the month of May and we'll

Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:14:02PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: At least on my SanDisk Cruzer, that was relatively harmless on Linux. On Windows, these lines suggest that any time you put the drive in it launches the horrible U3 system and starts messing with your files. Fortunately, there is

Re: Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily "YES")

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:17:35PM +0200, Erez D wrote: hi After a Few Years of receiving TV via satellite from many parts of the world, (using linux of course) I was think of giving a presentation of "sattelite TV and linux" do you think people will be interested ? If it were in English and

Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2009/2/17 Omer Zak : > Shahar's suggestion addresses the problem, and lets busy Linux-IL > oldtimers ignore the newbies' questions. > > However, I am concerned about newbies, who would be confused and post > using linux-il rather gnubies-il, so their messages won't be flagged. > Also, how do we ens

Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> At least on my SanDisk Cruzer, that was relatively harmless on Linux. On > Windows, these lines suggest that any time you put the drive in it launches > the horrible U3 system and starts messing with your files. Fortunately, > there is a solution. You can download the U3 removal tool from the san

Re: Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:15:37PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Imaginary chocolate. The daughter did the imaginary mixing and imaginary baking, to be honest. Sounds, good, although I prefer real ones. :-) More importantly, where did you buy it? http://www.logicpc.co.il/heb/itdetail.aspx?ico

Re: Linux experts do not want to be bothered with newbie questions! (was:Re: No noobs?)

2009-02-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 09:21:11AM +0200, Shahar Dag wrote: > Hi > > Can we make the gnubies-il actually an alias (or what ever) to linux-il, and > configured things that every message sent to gnubies-il will have in the > subject [GNUBIES]. > This will: > - be easy to filter gnubies questions >

Re: Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:36:10PM +0200, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: But for streaming video you have to be sitting at the computer! I have files I can put on a USB key and plug into the DVD player connected tot he TV in the public areas of the house instead of inviting everyone into my

Sattelite TV and linux (not neccesarily "YES")

2009-02-17 Thread Erez D
hi After a Few Years of receiving TV via satellite from many parts of the world, (using linux of course) I was think of giving a presentation of "sattelite TV and linux" do you think people will be interested ? erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@

Re: Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
>> I just bought a D-Link DIR-320: 300 NIS, Wifi, USB printer server, >> runs all the Linux firmware. I'm so happy that I made it a cake. > > What kind? > Imaginary chocolate. The daughter did the imaginary mixing and imaginary baking, to be honest. > More importantly, where did you buy it? > ht

Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gabor Szabo wrote: I have just bought an 8Gb SanDisk Cruzer Micro (USB 2.0) disk on key. I plugged it in my computer, the reassuring red light came on but Ubuntu 8.10 did not recognize it. The messages suggest that it did. It assigned sdb to it. Why Ubuntu didn't auto mount it is an interesti

Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Gabor Szabo
Interestingly on my desktop machine it did mount it the second time I tried. On my notebook I had to manually do it: mkdir /home/gabor/x sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/gabor/x/ Gabor On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > It seems your machine recognizes the device. Could it be t

Re: SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
It seems your machine recognizes the device. Could it be that a module for the actual file system is not loaded maybe? Hetz On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > I have just bought an 8Gb SanDisk Cruzer Micro (USB 2.0) disk on key. > I plugged it in my computer, the reassuring r

OT: Job Offer

2009-02-17 Thread Henry Fisher
Good news for talented unemployed Linux System Administrator: One1 Systems/Korpel-Tal is looking for a highly motivated full-time Linux System Administrator. At least 5 years experience in LINUX (RedHat, CentOS) system administration. Experience with Sendmail, Postfix, MailScanner, Majordomo,

Re: Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:06:32PM +0200, sammy ominsky wrote: But for streaming video you have to be sitting at the computer! I have files I can put on a USB key and plug into the DVD player connected tot he TV in the public areas of the house instead of inviting everyone into my office

Re: Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:20:39PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: I just bought a D-Link DIR-320: 300 NIS, Wifi, USB printer server, runs all the Linux firmware. I'm so happy that I made it a cake. What kind? More importantly, where did you buy it? Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerus

SanDisk Cruzer micro 8Gb and Ubuntu, GNU/Linux

2009-02-17 Thread Gabor Szabo
I have just bought an 8Gb SanDisk Cruzer Micro (USB 2.0) disk on key. I plugged it in my computer, the reassuring red light came on but Ubuntu 8.10 did not recognize it. Surprising as a disk-on-key should not have such issues. Especially one with a Penguin on the box! I searched a bit and found a

Re: Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> I wonder if one can hack a WiFi router with a custom linux distro to do > it, had a USB port? Is there such a thing as a Linksys newer version > of the WRT54GL with a USB port? > I just bought a D-Link DIR-320: 300 NIS, Wifi, USB printer server, runs all the Linux firmware. I'm so happy that I m

Re: No noobs?

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> noobs should die. > WTF? Were you born with a model M in your diaper? I know that there are the 'pertpetual noobs' who don't want to learn, but that is something else. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-

Re: [METADISCUSSION] Re: No noobs?

2009-02-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
> I am rather worried that the experts' Linux-IL mailing list will be > swamped by questions like "Why does Linux refuse to execute my Python > script" when it turns out that he did not give it execute permission, > wrote "mypythonscript.py" rather than "./mypythonscript.py" and > misformatted the

Re: Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread sammy ominsky
On 17/02/2009, at 11:41, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: including service and modem. They now require an 18-month contract, and the small print says traffic is unlimited from a mobile computer. Ok, does that mobile computer have to be moving? Can I get a cheap laptop and sit it on a she

Re: How You Can Help the Tel Aviv Open Source Club

2009-02-17 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 04:57:11 e2xbegqsdyt21hfc wrote: > 1) At its current state, I think the only importance of telux is having a > suitable place to meet if the need arise. 2) I won't have a presentation in > telux (and not else where too) in the foreseeable future. 3) I doubt if I > will c

Re: How You Can Help the Tel Aviv Open Source Club

2009-02-17 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 00:33:35 Ira Abramov wrote: > Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Mon, 16 Feb: > > > Please don't take it so hard. It's just normal artifact of a club > > > meeting that requires no RSVP. > > > > Maybe. But I've noticed a gradual dwindling in the number of Telux > > at

Re: Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:08:18AM +0200, sammy ominsky wrote: As a follow-up to Geoff's post the other day about using one of the cell providers' offerings for home internet access, I thought I'd post this device... Thanks, I was wondering if there was such a thing. I was going to ask, but

Re: No noobs?

2009-02-17 Thread Boaz Rymland
No. Trolls should die (noobs or not). Boaz. On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:47:32 +0200, Jacob Broido wrote: noobs should die. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: While referring a new Linux user to the Linux-il mailing list, I found this text on the page: "No newbie questions

Cell net use at home

2009-02-17 Thread sammy ominsky
Hi, As a follow-up to Geoff's post the other day about using one of the cell providers' offerings for home internet access, I thought I'd post this device... http://www.option.com/en/products/products/wireless-routers/x1/about/#start A cell-to-wifi/ethernet router. I'd buy one if they wer

Re: PDF compression tool

2009-02-17 Thread Meir Kriheli
Israel Shikler wrote: > Hi all, > > I need a PDF files compression tool on Linux. > I was able to locate some tools that really do a good job on MS but > all my searches for descent tool on Linux were to no avail. > pdftk can compress and uncompress PDF streams: http://www.pdfhacks.com/pdf

Re: PDF compression tool

2009-02-17 Thread Arie Skliarouk
>From "apt-cache show pdftk": [...] - Uncompress and re-compress page streams No experience whatsoever. What is the windows tool that does the job? -- Arie 2009/2/17 Israel Shikler > Hi all, > > I need a PDF files compression tool on Linux. > I was able to locate some tools that really

Re: No noobs?

2009-02-17 Thread Jacob Broido
noobs should die. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > While referring a new Linux user to the Linux-il mailing list, I found > this text on the page: > "No newbie questions (use gnubies-il instead)." > > Can the lists be merged? This list is low enough traffic that doubling >

PDF compression tool

2009-02-17 Thread Israel Shikler
Hi all, I need a PDF files compression tool on Linux. I was able to locate some tools that really do a good job on MS but all my searches for descent tool on Linux were to no avail. Israel Shikler phone: 972-3-5348938 fax: 972-3-5348967 _

Re: How You Can Help the Tel Aviv Open Source Club

2009-02-17 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting e2xbegqsdyt21hfc, from the post of Mon, 16 Feb: > Didn't you meant to say that you are tired of the poor results and low > return of your many efforts? Are we now allowing both noobs AND trolls? nobody sent me the memo. -- Sith Lord Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/