Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-03 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
2011/7/3 Arie Skliarouk sklia...@gmail.com Hi, The company I work at uses openvpn extensively. We settled on UDP-based protocol as it is more effective than TCP based. Inter-Israeli VPN connection works perfectly all of the time, whereas international VPN has erratic behavior on at least

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-03 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours: That's 10 years old. Even then it was questionable, UDP packets were dropped by ISPs all over the world when congested. That's why I worded The expected behavior is for the IP

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-03 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
We are all familiar with UDP vs. TCP tradeoff, but I think it is quite irrelevant in the context. The OP sees 50% packet loss through ISP#1 and zero packet loss through ISP#2. I do not think that one can claim that 50% loss is normal for UDP and the network works as designed. The upper TCP will be

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-03 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Jul 3, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: We are all familiar with UDP vs. TCP tradeoff, but I think it is quite irrelevant in the context. The OP sees 50% packet loss through ISP#1 and zero packet loss through ISP#2. I do not think that one can claim that 50% loss is normal for UDP

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 08:25:27AM +0300, geoffrey mendelson wrote: HTTP was built around TCP because the designers wanted 100% reliablilty instead of (possible) better performance. FTP was built on neither. The FTP protocol uses UDP, but includes a rudimentry implementation of the same

Job Offer, for Freelancers in Linux System area

2011-07-03 Thread ik
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Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-03 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 11:23 AM, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: However Oleg, you are missing an important bit of information. Since there is no such thing as an internet, one ISP can not be assumed to be at all like another. In the real world, such things are determined

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-03 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Jul 3, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: FTP? TFTP? You're right, I think I confused the two. Regular FTP uses TCP. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM Making your enemy reliant on software you support is the best revenge.

Re: UDP packets loss at Israeli ISPs during peak hours

2011-07-03 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: No, Geoff, I am not missing that. What you are saying is that the 50% loss is over the whole path that includes numerous autonomous systems (AS), and not all of it may occur inside the ISP's network. yes. While this is obviously correct,

Re: Hebrew fonts on digital readers

2011-07-03 Thread Steve G.
FWIW, this is not the same discussion as far as I am concerned. The previous discussion was about what reader is best for Hebrew book. This one is about how to read Hebrew on a Kindle 2. I am not going to buy eVrit, nor any book with DRM on it, if I can help it. On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 11:01 PM,