Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-21 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Oleg Goldshmidt, from the post of Wed, 15 Jan: [Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless computing, protects sensitive data, deters intellectual property theft (read Digital Rights Management (DRM) Inside) and delivers tamper-resistant, x86 storage

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-16 Thread Beni Cherniavsky
On 2003-01-15, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Men are control freaks - we love to control other people. Power turns us on. This isn't new - that one of the basic themes of the Lord of the Ring, for example and that story is 30 years old. Hmm, I'd say the idea is a bit older than even 30 years. I'd

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-16 Thread Jean-Daniel Pauget
the transmeta inner cryptology modules sounds/looks a lot like tcpa and his associated big brother palladium. those days, fighting DMCA-like laws and tools is important. check this one : http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html and make up your own mind ! maybe the

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-16 Thread Alex Chudnovsky
On Thursday 16 January 2003 03:42, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Men are control freaks - we love to control other people. Power turns us on. This isn't new - that one of the basic themes of the Lord of the Ring, for example and that story is 30 years old. The story is about fifty years old :-)

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-16 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt on Thu, Jan 16, 2003: I kleft a very good job once because there was a working camera at the office. Yikes. What kind of place is that? (No, don't answer that.) Vadik. -- Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. -- Ford Prefect

[OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
[Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless computing, protects sensitive data, deters intellectual property theft (read Digital Rights Management (DRM) Inside) and delivers tamper-resistant, x86 storage environments. http://212.100.234.54/content/3/28883.html --

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt on Wed, Jan 15, 2003: [Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless computing, protects sensitive data, deters intellectual property theft (read Digital Rights Management (DRM) Inside) and delivers tamper-resistant, x86 storage environments. Come

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Oleg Kobets
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:05 PM Subject: [OT] is Linus really a traitor? [Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless computing, protects sensitive data, deters intellectual property theft (read Digital Rights Management (DRM

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Veltzer
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 22:05, you wrote: [Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless computing, protects sensitive data, deters intellectual property theft (read Digital Rights Management (DRM) Inside) and delivers tamper-resistant, x86 storage environments.

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Vadim Vygonets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt on Wed, Jan 15, 2003: [Transmeta] claims its approach offers increased security for wireless computing, protects sensitive data, deters intellectual property theft (read Digital Rights Management (DRM) Inside) and delivers

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 13:29, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Actually, the passage I cited presents deters intellectual property theft as a direct quote. Of course security is good, but I would not want a trusted, if secure, CPU in my computer, even if made by Transmeta. Oleg, have you noticed how

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 16:50, Vadim Vygonets wrote: Quoth Mark Veltzer on Wed, Jan 15, 2003: As for Linus: I do not consider a person who had the nerve to write an operating system from scratch and license it under the GPL a traitor. A hero hits much closer to home. Come on. Writing

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt on Wed, Jan 15, 2003: Vadim Vygonets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Come on! Building crypto into the processor and enhancing security is a GOOD THING[TM], *despite* the fact that DRM was mentioned _by a third party_ in an article about the processor in question.

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Mark Veltzer on Wed, Jan 15, 2003: As for Linus: I do not consider a person who had the nerve to write an operating system from scratch and license it under the GPL a traitor. A hero hits much closer to home. Come on. Writing Linux is not a political issue. He may be a good

Re: [OT] is Linus really a traitor?

2003-01-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Vadim Vygonets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In this case, you seem to be sufficiently paranoid to look for security cameras in your room (don't get me wrong, paranoia is good if you work with security (and you obviously do)). I kleft a very good job once because there was a working camera at the