Re: Volunteer administrators (was: Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism)

2001-12-24 Thread Omer Zak
The following E-mail message supports my claim that information needs to be publicly available in order for volunteers to come forth and offer help. On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Ehud Karni wrote: > On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:53:46 +0200 (EET), guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > someone need to wr

Re: Volunteer administrators (was: Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism)

2001-12-24 Thread Ehud Karni
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:53:46 +0200 (EET), guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > someone need to write a backups script (no, not just 'tar things up', but > also store older backups, erase even older backups, check that the backup > does not fill the disk on which it resides). backups need be d

Re: Volunteer administrators (was: Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism)

2001-12-24 Thread Nimrod Simba Carmi
Hey Everyone, I haven't had the time to follow all these emails about volunteering/helping iglu, But I do have alot of free time, in general, and am willing to participate in any way I can. My servers, are only on two 128K ISDNs, so I can't really host anything big, but I can probaby adminis

Re: Volunteer administrators (was: Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism)

2001-12-24 Thread Ely Levy
I agree with most of the e-mail but I don't think it should be so aggressive. I had a long talk with Nadav harel last night, about the purpose of iglu and the ways to accomplish that. the diffrance is between what guy think the purpose is to what Omer and me think it is. community?locale?hebrew?

Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism

2001-12-24 Thread Ely Levy
I'm willing to write the rsync script. my problem with maintaining the mirror at the moment is the fact I get married in 2 month and am not sure that after moving I would still have net connection. if I would I would be happy to assist with fully maintaining the mirrors Ely Levy System group He

Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism

2001-12-24 Thread guy keren
On 24 Dec 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > > linux-il-maintainers@cs would be created if no one objects > > > > there is already [EMAIL PROTECTED] . it works - leave it there. > > And why isn't this discussionmoved there, with all the interested > parties subscribing? That was the original purpo

Re: Volunteer administrators (was: Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism)

2001-12-24 Thread guy keren
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Omer Zak wrote: > > great. so nowi'll have to: > > > > 1. explain to people who to do stuff. > > 2. fix their mistakes. > > 3. run after them, checking what they did and that it's ok. > > 4. go to actcom's offices every time someone breaks the system. > > > > sorry, i veto th

Re: Volunteer administrators (was: Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism)

2001-12-24 Thread guy keren
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > In the interest of reducing the amount of rants/flames/tomato > throwing/A-bomb making/fish slapping, I will now officially state that I > have offered my help in maintaining the security of the server. I have > one "welcome" and four silent agreement

Re: Volunteer administrators (was: Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism)

2001-12-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
In the interest of reducing the amount of rants/flames/tomato throwing/A-bomb making/fish slapping, I will now officially state that I have offered my help in maintaining the security of the server. I have one "welcome" and four silent agreements (i.e. - people who were notified but did not sa

Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism

2001-12-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Ely Levy wrote: > > > linux-il-maintainers@cs would be created if no one objects > > there is already [EMAIL PROTECTED] . it works - leave it there. And why isn't this discussion moved there, with all the interested parties subscribi

Re: Volunteer administrators (was: Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism)

2001-12-24 Thread Omer Zak
On Mon, 24 Dec 2001, guy keren wrote: > > Would it save Guy's time (and the time of other busy volunteers) if newbie > > volunteer/s join and perform more routine tasks (if necessary,under the > > supervision of the oldtimers)? > > great. so now i'll have to: > > 1. explain to people who to do s

Re: Volunteer administrators (was: Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism)

2001-12-23 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Omer Zak wrote: > > While this is true, the person who is given the duty of high-level > > administration and security policy (rather than short-term work like "just > > write a script that does ''") will have to come with a considerable > > amount of Linux/Unix experienc

Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism

2001-12-23 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Ely Levy wrote: > linux-il-maintainers@cs would be created if no one objects there is already [EMAIL PROTECTED] . it works - leave it there. you didn't yet answer my question - are you volunteering for the task at hand (maintaining the mirrors on iglu)? -- guy "For world

Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism

2001-12-23 Thread mulix
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Ely Levy wrote: > I think it's a great idea also but I think sourceforge project is really > not it. > we don't need any sf project just a little todo list running on iglu web > site CVS. offsite backup. no more disappearing mirror scripts or mysteriously changed configurati

Volunteer administrators (was: Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism)

2001-12-23 Thread Omer Zak
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Sun, Dec 23, 2001, Omer Zak wrote about "Guy's Rants about volunteerism": > > Recently someone posted and asked for suggestions how to get Linux > > experience.He was open to offers to volunteer his time. I

Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism

2001-12-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Dec 23, 2001, Omer Zak wrote about "Guy's Rants about volunteerism": > Recently someone posted and asked for suggestions how to get Linux > experience. He was open to offers to volunteer his time. I am sure there > are several other youngsters in similar situati

Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism

2001-12-23 Thread Ely Levy
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, mulix wrote: > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Omer Zak wrote: > > > I suggest that the existing www.iglu.org.il volunteer maintainers make > > information available, to make it easier for other people to volunteer as > > follows: > > 1. Manage it like a Free Software project - make t

Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism

2001-12-23 Thread mulix
On 23 Dec 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > mulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > better have a mailing list, a-la iglu-web for these things, to keep > > everyone in the loop. someone should have the final deciding power, > > though. omerm? guy? > > Why a-la? IGLU-web is there, just dormant, isn't

Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism

2001-12-23 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
mulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > better have a mailing list, a-la iglu-web for these things, to keep > everyone in the loop. someone should have the final deciding power, > though. omerm? guy? Why a-la? IGLU-web is there, just dormant, isn't it? Or does the sourceforge model mandate a sourcef

Re: Guy's Rants about volunteerism

2001-12-23 Thread mulix
On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Omer Zak wrote: > I suggest that the existing www.iglu.org.il volunteer maintainers make > information available, to make it easier for other people to volunteer as > follows: > 1. Manage it like a Free Software project - make the various scripts, and >documentation of th