Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-18 Thread Yonah Russ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand this completly (I've been through this myself when I admin'ed at HUJI CS), and you are certainly right with your concernes. I just think you are looking at the wrong direction. Existing tools will help you do a pull protocol (cron+ftp, for instance, BTW -

Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-18 Thread Oded Arbel
18 2004, 11:25,Yonah Russ: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand this completly (I've been through this myself when I admin'ed at HUJI CS), and you are certainly right with your concernes. I just think you are looking at the wrong direction. Existing tools will help you do a pull

Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-18 Thread linux-il
Yonah Russ wrote: Ok- mercy- I give up ntp. The point I was trying to make is that we all should get together and do it the same way. Let's try to make the script to run these updates part of standard distributions, part of the same rpm that distributes the TZ files in the first place maybe.

Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-18 Thread linux-il
Oded Arbel wrote: You'll have major problems with that, especially the part where you assume that everyone is connected to the internet all the time. You can enable/disable this, or you can do some clever tricks with if-up/if-down. The fact is that I don't find it necessary at all - just

Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-18 Thread Oded Arbel
18 2004, 13:20,[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oded Arbel wrote: You'll have major problems with that, especially the part where you assume that everyone is connected to the internet all the time. You can enable/disable this, or you can do some clever tricks with if-up/if-down. There are

Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-18 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Thu, 18 Mar: It's pretty transparent for Debian users - I never had to deal with this on my Debian - the system is just up to date with no Israel specific tweaking. I have opened bugs twice about DST starting or ending on the wrong times. they

Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-17 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Mar 17, 2004, Yonah Russ wrote about Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones: With such a huge community of techies, why can't we come up with a way to make this easier for all of us- or maybe someone has? It *is* easy. For example, on Redhat I just get the updated

Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-17 Thread Yonah Russ
I meant to solve the problem of israeli summer time in a way that we shouldn't have to update every individual station every year but rather that one computer be updated and let the update propogate automatically throughout israel. perhaps we could piggy back the timezone settings on the

Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-17 Thread Ehud Karni
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:41:51 +0200, Yonah Russ russ (at) actcom.net.il wrote: perhaps we could piggy back the timezone settings on the existing ntp infrastructure so that ntp.ac.il would propogate the correct timezone information to all the

Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-17 Thread linux-il
Yonah Russ wrote: I meant to solve the problem of israeli summer time in a way that we shouldn't have to update every individual station every year but rather that one computer be updated and let the update propogate automatically throughout israel. perhaps we could piggy back the timezone

Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-16 Thread Yonah Russ
With such a huge community of techies, why can't we come up with a way to make this easier for all of us- or maybe someone has? yonah guy keren wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Nachum Kanovsky wrote: If I use tzselect to change my time zone, is there any way to get applications that are already

Re: Israeli summer time - Was Re: Runtime changing of timezones

2004-03-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Yonah Russ wrote: With such a huge community of techies, why can't we come up with a way to make this easier for all of us- or maybe someone has? yonah It's awfully easy, assuming you are not trying something irrelevant. If all you want is to get daylight saving at the apropriate time, you