Re: Spam handling (was: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting)

2008-07-28 Thread sammy ominsky
On 28/07/2008, at 08:04, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: I was involved with a start-up ISP that was to provide free access via WiFi. The money for basic access and infrastructure was to come from advertising. I was also, in the US. I don't know what the financial plan was, just the technical

Re: Spam handling (was: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting)

2008-07-28 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/7/28 Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ deleted for bravity] As usual - your historic reviews are an interesting and educative read even for those of us who saw some of this action. Thanks! The startup you are reffering to AFAIK is FON from Spain, which allows > you to get credit by

Re: Spam handling (was: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting)

2008-07-27 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 02:02:46PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: > > As far as I remember, the first time I heard about the option for meshed > ISP's it was a for-profit organisation allowing clients to ramp up credits > for their own use by allowing others to make use of their own uplink via > WiFi.

Re: Spam handling (was: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting)

2008-07-27 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/7/27 Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I noticed that there were no comments about mesh networks with > WiFi/packet forwarding. Such things are inherently non-profit. Are they? As far as I remember, the first time I heard about the option for meshed ISP's it was a for-profit organisation all

RE: Spam handling (was: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting)

2008-07-26 Thread Omer Zak
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 17:30 +0300, Imri Zvik wrote: > While it is theoretically possible to setup a non-profit ISP, it is not > practical. > It takes A LOT of money to run an ISP - just the submarine uplinks costs a > couple of hundred K's of $ per month, and even if you manage to get a serious

RE: Spam handling (was: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting)

2008-07-26 Thread Imri Zvik
While it is theoretically possible to setup a non-profit ISP, it is not practical. It takes A LOT of money to run an ISP - just the submarine uplinks costs a couple of hundred K's of $ per month, and even if you manage to get a serious staff working for you for free, or almost free (which I doub