Am 04.02.2015 um 00:33 schrieb Al Viro:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 07:01:50PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Yeah, as I've already admitted in the bug, I never should have use
the word secure, because everyone nowadays seems to end up in panic
when reading that word.
So, if I would be able
Am 04.02.2015 um 15:52 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015, Alexander Holler wrote:
I'm happy for all the feedback. But it doesn't help me. I'm not going to
spend
the necessary time unpaid.
Right, you'd much rather have someone else to spend the time on your
request unpaid. That's
Am 04.02.2015 um 17:25 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015, Alexander Holler wrote:
Am 04.02.2015 um 15:52 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015, Alexander Holler wrote:
I'm happy for all the feedback. But it doesn't help me. I'm not going to spend
the necessary time unpaid
Am 04.02.2015 um 17:45 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 04.02.2015 um 17:25 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015, Alexander Holler wrote:
Am 04.02.2015 um 15:52 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
On Wed, 4 Feb 2015, Alexander Holler wrote:
I'm happy for all the feedback. But it doesn't help me. I'm
better.
Alexander Holler
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Am 04.02.2015 um 00:33 schrieb Al Viro:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 07:01:50PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Yeah, as I've already admitted in the bug, I never should have use
the word secure, because everyone nowadays seems to end up in panic
when reading that word.
So, if I would be able
to the the 's' bit, possible.
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Am 04.02.2015 um 13:42 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 04.02.2015 um 13:22 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 04.02.2015 um 13:07 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
The fact is that the current patches are useless for anything other
than proof-of-concept. Now you know more that needs to be done or
That's wrong
Am 04.02.2015 um 13:22 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 04.02.2015 um 13:07 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
The fact is that the current patches are useless for anything other
than proof-of-concept. Now you know more that needs to be done or
That's wrong. The patches already work. If you delete a file
Am 04.02.2015 um 14:06 schrieb Michael Kerrisk:
Alexander,
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote:
Am 04.02.2015 um 13:07 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
The fact is that the current patches are useless for anything other
than proof-of-concept. Now you know more
Am 04.02.2015 um 13:50 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 04.02.2015 um 13:42 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 04.02.2015 um 13:22 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 04.02.2015 um 13:07 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
The fact is that the current patches are useless for anything other
than proof-of-concept. Now you
Am 04.02.2015 um 14:21 schrieb Alexander Holler:
I tell you that discussions of APIs should CC linux-api, which I am
now CCing into this thread, again, because, again, you're not
listening to feedback.
Please don't confuse not listening with unable to fulfill Linux
kernel maintainer requests
Am 04.02.2015 um 14:29 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 04.02.2015 um 14:21 schrieb Alexander Holler:
I tell you that discussions of APIs should CC linux-api, which I am
now CCing into this thread, again, because, again, you're not
listening to feedback.
Please don't confuse not listening
0x2000
in include/uapi/linux/fcntl.h
for using the old unlinkat() with that new flag. That's much easier to
handle than a new syscall which likely never will end up in the kernel
and makes my silly patches even more simple.
Regards,
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Am 03.02.2015 um 18:48 schrieb Theodore Ts'o:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 01:48:56PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
E.g. my parents are stull successfully using contact lists on paper. These
are still more readable, easier to handle and smaller than any available
electronic replacement
Am 03.02.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015, Alexander Holler wrote:
I'm already spending a lot of time trying to convince the developers here,
that this a feature most people expect from any filesystem. And I've written
these patches, for which now, even after I've
Am 03.02.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
I'll give up.
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be
happy if at least the most trivial cases to recover deleted contents
could be avoided.
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Am 03.02.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 03.02.2015 um 15:50 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Maybe I should request removal of shred from Fedora/RH instead.
According to you it's one of the most misleading and useless tools. So
why still confuse people with it and still ship
Am 03.02.2015 um 15:50 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Maybe I should request removal of shred from Fedora/RH instead.
According to you it's one of the most misleading and useless tools. So
why still confuse people with it and still ship it?
At least it should be documented that it doesn't delete
Am 03.02.2015 um 14:50 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015, Alexander Holler wrote:
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:05:11 +0100
From: Alexander Holler
To: linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Holler
Subject: [PATCH 3/5] WIP: fs: ext4: support unlinkat_s
Am 03.02.2015 um 13:48 schrieb Alexander Holler:
E.g. my parents are stull successfully using contact lists on paper.
These are still more readable, easier to handle and smaller than any
available electronic replacement. And they have absolutely no problem to
destroy an old one when
Am 03.02.2015 um 10:23 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Or to give another more common example: If you delete your contact list,
I likely might find again by just searching for 0x6f726956 at the device
level (assuming you've stored a contact in that list with the same
surname as yours.
And, because
Am 03.02.2015 um 09:51 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 03.02.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Al Viro:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 07:58:50AM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Charming. Now, what exactly happens if two such syscalls overlap in
time?
What do you think will happen? I assume you haven't looked
Am 03.02.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Al Viro:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 07:58:50AM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Charming. Now, what exactly happens if two such syscalls overlap in time?
What do you think will happen? I assume you haven't looked at how I've
implemented set_secure_delete
Am 03.02.2015 um 09:10 schrieb Al Viro:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 09:01:36AM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Am 03.02.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Al Viro:
While we are at it, "overwrite with zeroes" is too weak if the attacker
might get hold of the actual hardware. Google for details - it
Am 03.02.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Al Viro:
While we are at it, "overwrite with zeroes" is too weak if the attacker
might get hold of the actual hardware. Google for details - it's far too
long story for l-k posting. Look for data recovery and secure data erasure...
You might read
Am 03.02.2015 um 14:50 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015, Alexander Holler wrote:
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:05:11 +0100
From: Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de
To: linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de
Subject: [PATCH
Am 03.02.2015 um 15:50 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Maybe I should request removal of shred from Fedora/RH instead.
According to you it's one of the most misleading and useless tools. So
why still confuse people with it and still ship it?
At least it should be documented that it doesn't delete
Am 03.02.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 03.02.2015 um 15:50 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Maybe I should request removal of shred from Fedora/RH instead.
According to you it's one of the most misleading and useless tools. So
why still confuse people with it and still ship
Am 03.02.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Al Viro:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 07:58:50AM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Charming. Now, what exactly happens if two such syscalls overlap in time?
What do you think will happen? I assume you haven't looked at how I've
implemented set_secure_delete
Am 03.02.2015 um 09:10 schrieb Al Viro:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 09:01:36AM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Am 03.02.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Al Viro:
While we are at it, overwrite with zeroes is too weak if the attacker
might get hold of the actual hardware. Google for details - it's far too
Am 03.02.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Al Viro:
While we are at it, overwrite with zeroes is too weak if the attacker
might get hold of the actual hardware. Google for details - it's far too
long story for l-k posting. Look for data recovery and secure data erasure...
You might read
Am 03.02.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
I'll give up.
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Am 03.02.2015 um 16:41 schrieb Lukáš Czerner:
On Tue, 3 Feb 2015, Alexander Holler wrote:
I'm already spending a lot of time trying to convince the developers here,
that this a feature most people expect from any filesystem. And I've written
these patches, for which now, even after I've
be
happy if at least the most trivial cases to recover deleted contents
could be avoided.
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Am 03.02.2015 um 10:23 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Or to give another more common example: If you delete your contact list,
I likely might find again by just searching for 0x6f726956 at the device
level (assuming you've stored a contact in that list with the same
surname as yours.
And, because
Am 03.02.2015 um 13:48 schrieb Alexander Holler:
E.g. my parents are stull successfully using contact lists on paper.
These are still more readable, easier to handle and smaller than any
available electronic replacement. And they have absolutely no problem to
destroy an old one when
Am 03.02.2015 um 18:48 schrieb Theodore Ts'o:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 01:48:56PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
E.g. my parents are stull successfully using contact lists on paper. These
are still more readable, easier to handle and smaller than any available
electronic replacement
0x2000
in include/uapi/linux/fcntl.h
for using the old unlinkat() with that new flag. That's much easier to
handle than a new syscall which likely never will end up in the kernel
and makes my silly patches even more simple.
Regards,
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Am 03.02.2015 um 09:51 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 03.02.2015 um 08:56 schrieb Al Viro:
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 07:58:50AM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Charming. Now, what exactly happens if two such syscalls overlap in
time?
What do you think will happen? I assume you haven't looked
Am 03.02.2015 um 07:05 schrieb Al Viro:
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:05:09PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
+ if (inode) {
+ // TODO:
+ // if (inode is file and 's' flag is set)
+ // secure = true;
+ if (!secure
Am 03.02.2015 um 07:05 schrieb Al Viro:
> On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:05:09PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
>> +if (inode) {
>> +// TODO:
>> +// if (inode is file and 's' flag is set)
>> +// secure = true;
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler
---
fs/ext4/ext4.h| 2 ++
fs/ext4/mballoc.c | 25 +++--
fs/ext4/super.c | 12
3 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/fs/ext4/ext4.h b/fs/ext4/ext4.h
index c55a1fa..e66507c 100644
--- a/fs/ext4/ext4.h
You have to build the new rm yourself
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler
---
...ion-s-to-rm-to-support-unlinkat_s-current.patch | 111 +
1 file changed, 111 insertions(+)
create mode 100644
0001-WIP-Add-option-s-to-rm-to-support-unlinkat_s-current.patch
diff --git a/0001-WIP
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler
---
fs/fat/fat.h| 1 +
fs/fat/fatent.c | 20
fs/fat/inode.c | 13 +
3 files changed, 34 insertions(+)
diff --git a/fs/fat/fat.h b/fs/fat/fat.h
index e0c4ba3..b9febda 100644
--- a/fs/fat/fat.h
+++ b/fs/fat/fat.h
@@ -81,6
Simple test, needs the new rm with option -s.
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler
---
test_unlinkat_s.sh | 27 +++
1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
create mode 100755 test_unlinkat_s.sh
diff --git a/test_unlinkat_s.sh b/test_unlinkat_s.sh
new file mode 100755
index 000
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler
---
arch/x86/syscalls/syscall_32.tbl | 1 +
arch/x86/syscalls/syscall_64.tbl | 1 +
fs/namei.c| 38 ++-
include/asm-generic/audit_dir_write.h | 1 +
include/linux/fs.h| 1
rebase them myself (thanks to git).
- Don't be disappointed because the patches are that simple. The idea
counts. ;)
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Am 03.02.2015 um 07:05 schrieb Al Viro:
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:05:09PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
+if (inode) {
+// TODO:
+// if (inode is file and 's' flag is set)
+// secure = true;
+if (!secure)
+iput
Am 03.02.2015 um 07:05 schrieb Al Viro:
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 06:05:09PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
+ if (inode) {
+ // TODO:
+ // if (inode is file and 's' flag is set)
+ // secure = true;
+ if (!secure
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de
---
arch/x86/syscalls/syscall_32.tbl | 1 +
arch/x86/syscalls/syscall_64.tbl | 1 +
fs/namei.c| 38 ++-
include/asm-generic/audit_dir_write.h | 1 +
include/linux/fs.h
rebase them myself (thanks to git).
- Don't be disappointed because the patches are that simple. The idea
counts. ;)
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Simple test, needs the new rm with option -s.
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de
---
test_unlinkat_s.sh | 27 +++
1 file changed, 27 insertions(+)
create mode 100755 test_unlinkat_s.sh
diff --git a/test_unlinkat_s.sh b/test_unlinkat_s.sh
new file mode
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de
---
fs/fat/fat.h| 1 +
fs/fat/fatent.c | 20
fs/fat/inode.c | 13 +
3 files changed, 34 insertions(+)
diff --git a/fs/fat/fat.h b/fs/fat/fat.h
index e0c4ba3..b9febda 100644
--- a/fs/fat/fat.h
+++ b/fs/fat
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de
---
fs/ext4/ext4.h| 2 ++
fs/ext4/mballoc.c | 25 +++--
fs/ext4/super.c | 12
3 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/fs/ext4/ext4.h b/fs/ext4/ext4.h
index c55a1fa..e66507c 100644
You have to build the new rm yourself
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de
---
...ion-s-to-rm-to-support-unlinkat_s-current.patch | 111 +
1 file changed, 111 insertions(+)
create mode 100644
0001-WIP-Add-option-s-to-rm-to-support-unlinkat_s-current.patch
Am 25.01.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 03:43 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 03:13 schrieb Pádraig Brady:
On 24/01/15 12:29, Alexander Holler wrote:
Am 24.01.2015 um 13:09 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 12:37 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am
Am 25.01.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 03:43 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 03:13 schrieb Pádraig Brady:
On 24/01/15 12:29, Alexander Holler wrote:
Am 24.01.2015 um 13:09 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 12:37 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am
Am 27.01.2015 um 19:42 schrieb Steven Rostedt:
Hey, if you end up doing it, it could help with your resume.
Oh, young padovan, I'm writing SW since 30a and it just would make it
even longer, which already seems to be a problem for many HR people.
Alexander Holer
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Am 27.01.2015 um 18:48 schrieb Steven Rostedt:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:38:36 +0100
Alexander Holler wrote:
Anyway, I like(d) Linux because it didn't had a splash screen and used
to spit out all types of information on the screen where it could be
easily seen or found (in contrast other OS
that the kernel does a
lot of things. ;)
I don't want that ftrace stuff appears in dmesg, but I like to do
dmesg | grep -i mmc (or whatever is of interest)
instead of
grep -Rsi mmc /sys/ or
something like
find /sys -iname '*mmc*' -exec \;
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grep doesn't connect the file name with the content, so you need more
complicated stuff to combine both in order to search for and find
something in sysfs.
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Am 27.01.2015 um 15:21 schrieb Borislav Petkov:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 01:44:15PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Yes. Sorry, but I had so many bad experiences with maintainers.
Well, I can't comment on your experience for the simple reason that I
haven't followed those discussions
settings) instead of a
desastrous memory corruption which (hard-) reseted the machine (and
might have done even more bad things) and so on.
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Am 27.01.2015 um 13:08 schrieb Borislav Petkov:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 01:02:49PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Look at the source at the message which is printed just before and decide
which one you find more informational / useful.
I find such a message absolutely useless. Also
Am 27.01.2015 um 12:55 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Alexander Holler wrote:
It's an interesting detail, so inform the user about it.
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler
---
drivers/mmc/core/bus.c | 4
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers
It's an interesting detail, so inform the user about it.
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler
---
drivers/mmc/core/bus.c | 4
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers/mmc/core/bus.c b/drivers/mmc/core/bus.c
index 8a1f124..4a60028 100644
--- a/drivers/mmc/core/bus.c
+++ b/drivers
settings) instead of a
desastrous memory corruption which (hard-) reseted the machine (and
might have done even more bad things) and so on.
Regards,
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Am 27.01.2015 um 18:48 schrieb Steven Rostedt:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:38:36 +0100
Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote:
Anyway, I like(d) Linux because it didn't had a splash screen and used
to spit out all types of information on the screen where it could be
easily seen or found
Am 27.01.2015 um 19:42 schrieb Steven Rostedt:
Hey, if you end up doing it, it could help with your resume.
Oh, young padovan, I'm writing SW since 30a and it just would make it
even longer, which already seems to be a problem for many HR people.
Alexander Holer
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Am 27.01.2015 um 13:08 schrieb Borislav Petkov:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 01:02:49PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Look at the source at the message which is printed just before and decide
which one you find more informational / useful.
I find such a message absolutely useless. Also
It's an interesting detail, so inform the user about it.
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de
---
drivers/mmc/core/bus.c | 4
1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
diff --git a/drivers/mmc/core/bus.c b/drivers/mmc/core/bus.c
index 8a1f124..4a60028 100644
--- a/drivers/mmc/core
Am 27.01.2015 um 12:55 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote:
It's an interesting detail, so inform the user about it.
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de
---
drivers/mmc/core/bus.c | 4
1 file changed
Am 27.01.2015 um 15:21 schrieb Borislav Petkov:
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 01:44:15PM +0100, Alexander Holler wrote:
Yes. Sorry, but I had so many bad experiences with maintainers.
Well, I can't comment on your experience for the simple reason that I
haven't followed those discussions
because
grep doesn't connect the file name with the content, so you need more
complicated stuff to combine both in order to search for and find
something in sysfs.
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Am 25.01.2015 um 13:36 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:24 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:08 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
Or add support for the "s" chattr to major filesystems.
(...)
So maybe shred should first set the 's' attribute before call
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:28 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:24 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:08 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Alexander Holler wrote:
Now, after I ended up into flaming a lot (sorry again, but this topic made
me angry
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:24 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:08 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
Or add support for the "s" chattr to major filesystems.
And change the manpage for the 's' attribute to change the "overwriting
with zero" with some other wording.
But th
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:08 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Alexander Holler wrote:
Now, after I ended up into flaming a lot (sorry again, but this topic made
me angry for so long and I had to spent too much time to get rid of unwanted
content and answering other
Am 25.01.2015 um 12:42 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Now, after I ended up into flaming a lot (sorry again, but this topic
made me angry for so long and I had to spent too much time to get rid of
unwanted content and answering other peoples question in regard to that
topic), I should offer something
ny
black magic involved in offering the user a simple way to really delete
files.
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Am 25.01.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Alexander Holler:
So we are now at the point that the only way to keep some information
private (forever) is to not store it on any computer.
That should be written "any electronic device (including phones,
tablets, cameras, TVs and clouds)" inste
Am 25.01.2015 um 03:43 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 03:13 schrieb Pádraig Brady:
On 24/01/15 12:29, Alexander Holler wrote:
Am 24.01.2015 um 13:09 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 12:37 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 11:45 schrieb Alexander Holler
in offering the user a simple way to really delete
files.
Regards,
Alexander Holler
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Am 25.01.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Alexander Holler:
So we are now at the point that the only way to keep some information
private (forever) is to not store it on any computer.
That should be written any electronic device (including phones,
tablets, cameras, TVs and clouds) instead of any
Am 25.01.2015 um 03:43 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 03:13 schrieb Pádraig Brady:
On 24/01/15 12:29, Alexander Holler wrote:
Am 24.01.2015 um 13:09 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 12:37 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 11:45 schrieb Alexander Holler
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:24 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:08 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
Or add support for the s chattr to major filesystems.
And change the manpage for the 's' attribute to change the overwriting
with zero with some other wording.
But thanks for the hint. I
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:08 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote:
Now, after I ended up into flaming a lot (sorry again, but this topic made
me angry for so long and I had to spent too much time to get rid of unwanted
content
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:36 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:24 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:08 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
Or add support for the s chattr to major filesystems.
(...)
So maybe shred should first set the 's' attribute before calling unlink
Am 25.01.2015 um 12:42 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Now, after I ended up into flaming a lot (sorry again, but this topic
made me angry for so long and I had to spent too much time to get rid of
unwanted content and answering other peoples question in regard to that
topic), I should offer something
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:28 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:24 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 25.01.2015 um 13:08 schrieb Richard Weinberger:
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Alexander Holler hol...@ahsoftware.de wrote:
Now, after I ended up into flaming a lot (sorry again
Am 25.01.2015 um 03:13 schrieb Pádraig Brady:
On 24/01/15 12:29, Alexander Holler wrote:
Am 24.01.2015 um 13:09 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 12:37 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 11:45 schrieb Alexander Holler:
It uses shred, in the hope it will somedays learn how
Am 24.01.2015 um 13:09 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 12:37 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 11:45 schrieb Alexander Holler:
It uses shred, in the hope it will somedays learn how to shred stuff on
FLASH based devices securely too, once that has become possible.
BTW
Am 24.01.2015 um 12:37 schrieb Alexander Holler:
Am 24.01.2015 um 11:45 schrieb Alexander Holler:
It uses shred, in the hope it will somedays learn how to shred stuff on
FLASH based devices securely too, once that has become possible.
BTW: This is a good example where technology failed
Am 24.01.2015 um 11:45 schrieb Alexander Holler:
It uses shred, in the hope it will somedays learn how to shred stuff on
FLASH based devices securely too, once that has become possible.
BTW: This is a good example where technology failed to keep the needs of
users in mind.
It should
This is for the more paranoid people, also it's
questionable what paranoid nowadays means.
It uses shred, in the hope it will somedays learn how to shred stuff on
FLASH based devices securely too, once that has become possible.
Signed-off-by: Alexander Holler
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