Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-21 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 03:14:20PM -0400, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: > > Which is why the lawyers need to go over this document and I haven't > seen anything posted from them. In the same vein Mauro is concerned > that the way this is code is written it is a binding contract in > Brazil. My

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-21 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 03:14:20PM -0400, jonsm...@gmail.com wrote: > > Which is why the lawyers need to go over this document and I haven't > seen anything posted from them. In the same vein Mauro is concerned > that the way this is code is written it is a binding contract in > Brazil. My

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-21 Thread Thomas Gleixner
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Alan Cox wrote: > > I don't see it specifically stating that 'If someone is offensive at a > kernel summit we are going to refuse to listen' Kernel summit or Maintainer summit is covered by the CoC of the conference it is attached to. Thanks, tglx

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-21 Thread Thomas Gleixner
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018, Alan Cox wrote: > > I don't see it specifically stating that 'If someone is offensive at a > kernel summit we are going to refuse to listen' Kernel summit or Maintainer summit is covered by the CoC of the conference it is attached to. Thanks, tglx

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Alan Cox
The 'who said' is generally safe (except from the it's in court case - which is fine when that happens the legal process deals with it). The other details are not so while someone accused of something might not know who said it they can ask for what personal data (which would include that e

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Alan Cox
The 'who said' is generally safe (except from the it's in court case - which is fine when that happens the legal process deals with it). The other details are not so while someone accused of something might not know who said it they can ask for what personal data (which would include that e

Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-20 Thread Michael Tirado
James, and our other friends, On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:59 PM James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity More than one ambiguity. This whole file needs to go. >* Trolling, Who decides what is trolling, and what is a technique for raising awareness or sparking

Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-20 Thread Michael Tirado
James, and our other friends, On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:59 PM James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity More than one ambiguity. This whole file needs to go. >* Trolling, Who decides what is trolling, and what is a technique for raising awareness or sparking

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread James Bottomley
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 19:28 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated > > to > > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an > > incident. > > +Further details of specific enforcement policies may be posted > > +separately. > >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread James Bottomley
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 19:28 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated > > to > > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an > > incident. > > +Further details of specific enforcement policies may be posted > > +separately. > >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Trond Myklebust
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 19:24 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > The scope of the code of conduct basically means that it covers > online interactions (communication via mailing list, git commits > and Bugzilla). Not to be flippant, but those are hardly mediums > that are susceptible to executing

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Trond Myklebust
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 19:24 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > The scope of the code of conduct basically means that it covers > online interactions (communication via mailing list, git commits > and Bugzilla). Not to be flippant, but those are hardly mediums > that are susceptible to executing

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: Alan Cox > > > +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated to > > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an incident. > > +Further details of specific enforcement policies may be posted > > +separately. > >

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: Alan Cox > > > +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated to > > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an incident. > > +Further details of specific enforcement policies may be posted > > +separately. > >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM Trond Myklebust wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 19:28 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > > +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated > > > to > > > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an > > > incident. > > > +Further details

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread jonsm...@gmail.com
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM Trond Myklebust wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 19:28 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > > +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated > > > to > > > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an > > > incident. > > > +Further details

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Trond Myklebust
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 19:28 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated > > to > > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an > > incident. > > +Further details of specific enforcement policies may be posted > > +separately. > >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Trond Myklebust
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 19:28 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated > > to > > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an > > incident. > > +Further details of specific enforcement policies may be posted > > +separately. > >

Re: [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Alan Cox
> +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated to > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an incident. > +Further details of specific enforcement policies may be posted > +separately. Unfortunately by ignoring the other suggestions on this you've left

Re: [PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Alan Cox
> +to the circumstances. The Code of Conduct Committee is obligated to > +maintain confidentiality with regard to the reporter of an incident. > +Further details of specific enforcement policies may be posted > +separately. Unfortunately by ignoring the other suggestions on this you've left

[PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
The contact point for the kernel's Code of Conduct should now be the Code of Conduct Committee, not the full TAB. Change the email address in the file to properly reflect this. Acked-by: Chris Mason Acked-by: Olof Johansson Acked-by: Theodore Ts'o Acked-by: Thomas Gleixner Signed-off

[PATCH 6/7] Code of Conduct: Change the contact email address

2018-10-20 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
The contact point for the kernel's Code of Conduct should now be the Code of Conduct Committee, not the full TAB. Change the email address in the file to properly reflect this. Acked-by: Chris Mason Acked-by: Olof Johansson Acked-by: Theodore Ts'o Acked-by: Thomas Gleixner Signed-off

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Frank Rowand
Frank Rowand wrote: >>>>> On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: >>>> >>>> [...] >>>>>>> Trying to understand how you are understanding my comment >>>>>>> vs what >>>>>>> I i

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Frank Rowand
Frank Rowand wrote: >>>>> On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: >>>> >>>> [...] >>>>>>> Trying to understand how you are understanding my comment >>>>>>> vs what >>>>>>> I i

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread James Bottomley
> On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > Trying to understand how you are understanding my comment > > > > > > vs what > > > > > > I intended to communicate, it seems to me that you are > > > > > >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread James Bottomley
> On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > Trying to understand how you are understanding my comment > > > > > > vs what > > > > > > I intended to communicate, it seems to me that you are > > > > > >

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Tim.Bird
ou are understanding my comment vs what > >>>> I intended to communicate, it seems to me that you are focused on > >>>> the "where allowed" and I am focused on the "which email > >>>> addresses". > >>>> > >>

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Tim.Bird
ou are understanding my comment vs what > >>>> I intended to communicate, it seems to me that you are focused on > >>>> the "where allowed" and I am focused on the "which email > >>>> addresses". > >>>> > >>

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Frank Rowand
it seems to me that you are focused on >>>> the "where allowed" and I am focused on the "which email >>>> addresses". >>>> >>>> More clear? Or am I still not communicating well enough? >>> >>> I think the crux of

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Frank Rowand
it seems to me that you are focused on >>>> the "where allowed" and I am focused on the "which email >>>> addresses". >>>> >>>> More clear? Or am I still not communicating well enough? >>> >>> I think the crux of

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread James Bottomley
uot;where allowed" and I am focused on the "which email > > > addresses". > > > > > > More clear? Or am I still not communicating well enough? > > > > I think the crux of the disagreement is that you think the carve > > out equates to a per

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread James Bottomley
uot;where allowed" and I am focused on the "which email > > > addresses". > > > > > > More clear? Or am I still not communicating well enough? > > > > I think the crux of the disagreement is that you think the carve > > out equates to a per

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Frank Rowand
>> >>>> My understanding of the concern behind this change is that we >>>> should be able to use an email address for the current >>>> development practices, such as Reported-by, Suggested-by, etc >>>> tags when the email address was pr

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Frank Rowand
>> >>>> My understanding of the concern behind this change is that we >>>> should be able to use an email address for the current >>>> development practices, such as Reported-by, Suggested-by, etc >>>> tags when the email address was pr

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Alexandre Belloni
hat the professionals that deal with information privacy > could provide better wording for the above list. I am but an > amateur in that field. > > Anything else collected by the project would not be considered public. > For example, an email address provided in an email sent to me

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Alexandre Belloni
hat the professionals that deal with information privacy > could provide better wording for the above list. I am but an > amateur in that field. > > Anything else collected by the project would not be considered public. > For example, an email address provided in an email sent to me

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread James Bottomley
this change is that we > > > should be able to use an email address for the current > > > development practices, such as Reported-by, Suggested-by, etc > > > tags when the email address was provided in what is a public > > > space for the project. The pu

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread James Bottomley
this change is that we > > > should be able to use an email address for the current > > > development practices, such as Reported-by, Suggested-by, etc > > > tags when the email address was provided in what is a public > > > space for the project. The pu

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Randy Dunlap
s >>>> publishing >>>> private information such as email addresses unacceptable >>>> behaviour. Since >>>> the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of >>>> the patch >>>> process, add an exception clause for em

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Randy Dunlap
s >>>> publishing >>>> private information such as email addresses unacceptable >>>> behaviour. Since >>>> the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of >>>> the patch >>>> process, add an exception clause for em

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/16/18 19:41, James Bottomley wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: >> On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: >>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers >>> publishing >>> private information

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/16/18 19:41, James Bottomley wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: >> On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: >>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers >>> publishing >>> private information

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread James Bottomley
On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > > publishing > > private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > behaviour. Since &g

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread James Bottomley
On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > > publishing > > private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > behaviour. Since &g

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch >

[PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread James Bottomley
The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch process, add an exception clause for email addresses ordinarily

[PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread James Bottomley
The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch process, add an exception clause for email addresses ordinarily

Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-15 Thread Kees Cook
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:08 PM, James Bottomley wrote: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of

Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-15 Thread Kees Cook
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 1:08 PM, James Bottomley wrote: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:08:35 -0700 James Bottomley escreveu: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:08:35 -0700 James Bottomley escreveu: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Eric W. Biederman
James Bottomley writes: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch > process, add an exce

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Eric W. Biederman
James Bottomley writes: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch > process, add an exce

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/06/18 14:36, James Bottomley wrote: > From 4a614e9440148894207bef5bf69e74071baceb3b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: James Bottomley > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 14:21:56 -0700 > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email > addresses >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/06/18 14:36, James Bottomley wrote: > From 4a614e9440148894207bef5bf69e74071baceb3b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: James Bottomley > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 14:21:56 -0700 > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email > addresses >

[PATCH v2 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread James Bottomley
The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch process, add an exception clause for email addresses ordinarily

[PATCH v2 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread James Bottomley
The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch process, add an exception clause for email addresses ordinarily

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Pavel Machek
> > Signed-off-by: James Bottomley > > --- > > Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst | 2 +- > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > > b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > > index ab7c24b5478c..aa40e34e7785

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Pavel Machek
> > Signed-off-by: James Bottomley > > --- > > Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst | 2 +- > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > > b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst > > index ab7c24b5478c..aa40e34e7785

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Rainer Fiebig
tober 2018, 08:20:44 schrieb Josh Triplett: >>>>> On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it >>>>>> considers publishing private information such

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Rainer Fiebig
tober 2018, 08:20:44 schrieb Josh Triplett: >>>>> On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it >>>>>> considers publishing private information such

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Rainer Fiebig
ambiguity in the it considers publishing >>>> private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since >>>> the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the >>>> patch >>>> process, add an exception clause

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-10 Thread Rainer Fiebig
ambiguity in the it considers publishing >>>> private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since >>>> the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the >>>> patch >>>> process, add an exception clause

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread Rainer Fiebig
at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: >>>>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers >>>>> publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable >>>>> behaviour. Since the Linux kernel collects and publ

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread Rainer Fiebig
at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: >>>>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers >>>>> publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable >>>>> behaviour. Since the Linux kernel collects and publ

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread James Bottomley
> > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley > > > > wrote: > > > > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it > > > > > considers publishing private information such as email > > > > > addresses un

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread James Bottomley
> > > On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley > > > > wrote: > > > > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it > > > > > considers publishing private information such as email > > > > > addresses un

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread Laurent Pinchart
>>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > >>> publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable > >>> behaviour. Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email > >>> addresses as part of the patch pro

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread Laurent Pinchart
>>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > >>> publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable > >>> behaviour. Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email > >>> addresses as part of the patch pro

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread Josh Triplett
t; publishing > > > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > > > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the > > > patch > > > process, add an exception clause for email addresses ordinarily

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread Josh Triplett
t; publishing > > > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > > > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the > > > patch > > > process, add an exception clause for email addresses ordinarily

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread Rainer Fiebig
Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2018, 08:20:44 schrieb Josh Triplett: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > > private information such as email addresses unacceptable be

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread Rainer Fiebig
Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2018, 08:20:44 schrieb Josh Triplett: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > > private information such as email addresses unacceptable be

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 12:57:51PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 04:23:57PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > Fully agreed on that. The same argument that we use for GPL 2 only > > applies here: we should stick with an specific version of this it, in > > a way that

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-09 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 12:57:51PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 04:23:57PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > Fully agreed on that. The same argument that we use for GPL 2 only > > applies here: we should stick with an specific version of this it, in > > a way that

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Josh Triplett
> > > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > > > > publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > > > behaviour.  Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email > > > > addresses as part o

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Josh Triplett
> > > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > > > > publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > > > behaviour.  Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email > > > > addresses as part o

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
0:00 > > > 2001 > > > From: James Bottomley > > > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 14:21:56 -0700 > > > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about > > > collecting email > > >  addresses > > > > > > The current code of

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
0:00 > > > 2001 > > > From: James Bottomley > > > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 14:21:56 -0700 > > > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about > > > collecting email > > >  addresses > > > > > > The current code of

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Mon, 8 Oct 2018 09:37:59 +1000 Dave Airlie escreveu: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 08:56, Al Viro wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 08:25:35AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > > > This isn't a legally binding license or anything, but departing from > > > the upstream wording makes it tricker

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Mon, 8 Oct 2018 09:37:59 +1000 Dave Airlie escreveu: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 08:56, Al Viro wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 08:25:35AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > > > This isn't a legally binding license or anything, but departing from > > > the upstream wording makes it tricker

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:36:39 -0700 James Bottomley escreveu: > From 4a614e9440148894207bef5bf69e74071baceb3b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: James Bottomley > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 14:21:56 -0700 > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:36:39 -0700 James Bottomley escreveu: > From 4a614e9440148894207bef5bf69e74071baceb3b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: James Bottomley > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2018 14:21:56 -0700 > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
gt; > publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > > behaviour.  Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email > > > addresses as part of the patch process, add an exception clause for > > > email addresses ordinarily collected by the project to

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
gt; > publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > > behaviour.  Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email > > > addresses as part of the patch process, add an exception clause for > > > email addresses ordinarily collected by the project to

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Luck, Tony
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 08:25:35AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > This isn't a legally binding license or anything, but departing from > the upstream wording makes it tricker to merge new upstream versions > if they are considered appropriate. The whole document is under 500 words, if we can manage

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Luck, Tony
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 08:25:35AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > This isn't a legally binding license or anything, but departing from > the upstream wording makes it tricker to merge new upstream versions > if they are considered appropriate. The whole document is under 500 words, if we can manage

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread James Bottomley
On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 08:20 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > > publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > behavi

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread James Bottomley
On Mon, 2018-10-08 at 08:20 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > > publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > behavi

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Josh Triplett
On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Josh Triplett
On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 02:36:39PM -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread James Bottomley
-0700 > > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about > > collecting email  addresses > > > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > > publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > behaviour.  S

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread James Bottomley
-0700 > > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about > > collecting email  addresses > > > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > > publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > behaviour.  S

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 09:37:59AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 08:56, Al Viro wrote: > > We can surround it with "explanations" until we get something that more or > > less fits, but then we'd need to reanalyse them every time an upstream > > change gets merged. And the

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-08 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 09:37:59AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 08:56, Al Viro wrote: > > We can surround it with "explanations" until we get something that more or > > less fits, but then we'd need to reanalyse them every time an upstream > > change gets merged. And the

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-07 Thread Dave Airlie
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 08:56, Al Viro wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 08:25:35AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > This isn't a legally binding license or anything, but departing from > > the upstream wording makes it tricker to merge new upstream versions > > if they are considered appropriate.

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-07 Thread Dave Airlie
On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 08:56, Al Viro wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 08:25:35AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > > > This isn't a legally binding license or anything, but departing from > > the upstream wording makes it tricker to merge new upstream versions > > if they are considered appropriate.

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-07 Thread Al Viro
On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 11:56:13PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > We can surround it with "explanations" Sorry, "clarifications". Or whatever euphemism you prefer for exegesis, really...

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-07 Thread Al Viro
On Sun, Oct 07, 2018 at 11:56:13PM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > We can surround it with "explanations" Sorry, "clarifications". Or whatever euphemism you prefer for exegesis, really...

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