Re: utrace comments

2007-06-21 Thread Roland McGrath
Hi Russell. Your last comments in this thread gave the impression you thought that ARM's existing PTRACE_SINGLESTEP support would be lost by converting to the utrace-based ptrace implementation. Christoph Hellwig posted a reply giving the (correct) details of how this is not the case. But I gathe

Re: utrace comments

2007-05-10 Thread Roland McGrath
> No need to renumber. You remove TIF_SYSCALL_EMU which is six, > so the newly added TIF_FORCED_TF could reuse that bit. No, that would be incorrect. As I mentioned earlier, there are magic semantics to bits < 16, namely that they are in _TIF_ALLWORK_MASK (and assembly code knows implicitly that

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-02 Thread David Howells
Eric W. Biederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But the condition doesn't line up with the code: > > Exactly. The condition not lining up with the following code helps > code helps separate the two. Sorry about that: I realised you were agreeing with me about 5s after I sent the message. > Ho

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-02 Thread Eric W. Biederman
David Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Eric W. Biederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Not lining up with the code following the if statement is also >> a plus. Because it clearly delineates the conditions from the code. > > But the condition doesn't line up with the code: Exactly. The c

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-02 Thread David Howells
Eric W. Biederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not lining up with the code following the if statement is also > a plus. Because it clearly delineates the conditions from the code. But the condition doesn't line up with the code: if (veryverylengthycondition1 && smallcond2 &&

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread Eric W. Biederman
David Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > John Anthony Kazos Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> if (veryverylengthycondition1 >> && smallcond2 >> && (conditionnumber3a >> || condition3b)) { >> ... >> } >> >> Clear, crisp, an

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread Satyam Sharma
On 5/1/07, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 08:05 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > I prefer this format also, but I'm not sure that we can get it > into CodingStyle. CodingStyle is about (either) concensus or > dictum, but I don't see us close to concensus... Yes, s

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread Satyam Sharma
On 5/1/07, John Anthony Kazos Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's horrid. I'd much rather see > > if (veryverylengthycondition1 && > smallcond2 && > (conditionnumber3a || condition3b)) { > ... > } if (veryverylengthycondition1

RE: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread Stuart MacDonald
From: On Behalf Of Satyam Sharma > readable and obvious at first glance itself. For example, consider: ^^^ > > if (veryverylengthycondition1 && > smallcond2 && > (conditionnumber3a || > condition3b)) { >

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread David Howells
John Anthony Kazos Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if (veryverylengthycondition1 > && smallcond2 > && (conditionnumber3a > || condition3b)) { > ... > } > > Clear, crisp, and 80-wide. I also like how the logical operator

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 17:07 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > For clarity, if it fits, I prefer that one, too. I don't think that was under question, was it? My point was that I prefer it even when it _doesn't_ fit. -- dwmw2 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ker

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Tue, 01 May 2007 15:16:13 +0100 David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 11:00 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > > if (veryverylengthycondition1 && > > smallcond2 && > > (conditionnumber3a || > > condition3b)) { > > ... >

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 08:05 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > I prefer this format also, but I'm not sure that we can get it > into CodingStyle. CodingStyle is about (either) concensus or > dictum, but I don't see us close to concensus... CodingStyle is mostly about consensus. We don't have a consens

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 1 May 2007, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 11:00 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > > if (veryverylengthycondition1 && > > smallcond2 && > > (conditionnumber3a || > > condition3b)) { > > ... > > } > >

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread John Anthony Kazos Jr.
> > if (veryverylengthycondition1 && > > smallcond2 && > > (conditionnumber3a || > > condition3b)) { > > ... > > } > > It's horrid. I'd much rather see > > if (veryverylengthycondition1 && > smallcond2 && >

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 11:00 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > if (veryverylengthycondition1 && > smallcond2 && > (conditionnumber3a || > condition3b)) { > ... > } It's horrid. I'd much rather see if (veryverylengthyc

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread Scott Preece
On 5/1/07, Geert Uytterhoeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, 1 May 2007, Satyam Sharma wrote: > Actually, the latter style (one condition per line and the && or || > operators appearing _before_ the conditions in subsequent lines) > is quite popular for multi-line compound conditions (well, I

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-05-01 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 1 May 2007, Satyam Sharma wrote: > Actually, the latter style (one condition per line and the && or || > operators appearing _before_ the conditions in subsequent lines) > is quite popular for multi-line compound conditions (well, I've seen this > in kernel/workqueue.c, kernel/stop_machine.

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Stefan Richter
Satyam Sharma wrote: [...] > The rationale is to make the operator prominent and thus make > the structure of a complex multi-line compound conditional expression more > readable and obvious at first glance itself. For example, consider: > > if (veryverylengthycondition1 && > smallcond

RE: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Luck, Tony
> I'm a bit lost here. Are we referring to > > if (expr) { > ... > } else { > ... > } > > versus > > if (expr) { > ... > } > else { > ... > } This one is already covered by Documentation/CodingStyle

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Satyam Sharma
Hi, On 4/30/07, Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:11:21 +0100 Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've separated this out under a new subject because some style issues > that so far aren't documented explicitly are in doubt here, and Roland > wants and A

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Monday 30 April 2007 13:09:17 Andrew Morton wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:11:21 +0100 Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've separated this out under a new subject because some style issues > > that so far aren't documented explicitly are in doubt here, and Roland > > wants and

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Apr 30 2007 10:09, Andrew Morton wrote: > >This is > > if (expr1 && > expr2) > >versus > > if (expr1 > && expr2) > >the former is more common and is, IMO, more readable. > >The latter can be handy sometimes to prevent an 80-col overflow in the >first line

Re: condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Andrew Morton
On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:11:21 +0100 Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've separated this out under a new subject because some style issues > that so far aren't documented explicitly are in doubt here, and Roland > wants and Answer from Andrew. > > We also should put clauses on this i

Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:45:10AM +0100, Russell King wrote: > For the sake of avoiding too much rehash, here's Roland's reply to my > initial forrey into utrace: > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=117309251916053&w=2 In that mail Roland suggests keeping the singlestep code entirely in the

Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:33:31AM +0100, Russell King wrote: > > Does the current arm ptrace code support single stepping in kernelspace? > > If yes we absolutely need to continue to support it. > > single stepping of user space code via standard ptrace calls, yes. > > > > I'd also like to see u

Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Russell King
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:33:31AM +0100, Russell King wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 11:22:00AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:18:09AM +0100, Russell King wrote: > > > Roland's idea of single-stepping is that it *must* be supported by > > > hardware for utrace to

Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Russell King
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 11:22:00AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:18:09AM +0100, Russell King wrote: > > Roland's idea of single-stepping is that it *must* be supported by > > hardware for utrace to use it. There are a number of architectures > > which can only do sin

Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:18:09AM +0100, Russell King wrote: > Roland's idea of single-stepping is that it *must* be supported by > hardware for utrace to use it. There are a number of architectures > which can only do single-stepping by modifying the text of the > program being single stepped.

Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Russell King
On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 10:08:40AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > Btw, is there a fundamental reason why an architecture would not support > single-stepping except for a transition period of porting, i.e. are there > real hardware limitation in any of our ports? Roland's idea of single-stepping

condingstyle, was Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Christoph Hellwig
I've separated this out under a new subject because some style issues that so far aren't documented explicitly are in doubt here, and Roland wants and Answer from Andrew. We also should put clauses on this into CodingStyle. On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 09:02:13PM -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: > >

Re: utrace comments

2007-04-30 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 09:02:13PM -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: > I'm sorry I've taken so long to reply to your review comments. > I won't dwell on that, and just dive into the discussion. > > > --- linux-2.6/include/asm-i386/thread_info.h.utrace-ptrace-compat > > +++ linux-2.6/include/asm-i386/th

Re: utrace comments

2007-04-29 Thread Roland McGrath
I'm sorry I've taken so long to reply to your review comments. I won't dwell on that, and just dive into the discussion. > --- linux-2.6/include/asm-i386/thread_info.h.utrace-ptrace-compat > +++ linux-2.6/include/asm-i386/thread_info.h > @@ -135,13 +135,13 @@ static inline struct thread_info *curr

Re: utrace comments

2006-12-06 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 01:51:45AM -0800, Roland McGrath wrote: > Thanks very much for your interest in utrace and for your comments. > Unfortunately, I cannot say exactly when I will be able to respond > to them in detail. I broke my arm in September and have had a > difficult recovery, including

Re: utrace comments

2006-12-05 Thread Roland McGrath
Thanks very much for your interest in utrace and for your comments. Unfortunately, I cannot say exactly when I will be able to respond to them in detail. I broke my arm in September and have had a difficult recovery, including a second surgery in November, two weeks ago. I am now immobilized such

utrace comments

2006-11-27 Thread Christoph Hellwig
Hi Roland, a while ago you posted a set of patches implementing utrace, a very promising debugging framework. Unfortunately everything around it got really silent and you haven't been posting updates for a long time. Thas is rather unfortunate as beeing silent and only posting updates on your we