Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-26 Thread Brandon George
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 2:10 PM Subject: Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...) > OK. Now that we're just talking about Basic (not VisualBasic, which was > where this thread started), there are a ton of choices. I can't speak to > quality, though ... just qu

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-23 Thread David Jones
On 23 Oct 02, at 8:27, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Windows is a special case. With windows there's no good > way to use anything. The code efficiency on windows would > gagg any of the CP/M programmers that might audit it. Very true, very true! ;-) David [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from thi

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
Windows is a special case. With windows there's no good way to use anything. The code efficiency on windows would gagg any of the CP/M programmers that might audit it. On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, David Jones wrote: > On 22 Oct 02, at 11:34, Elias Athanasopoulos wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 0

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
No basic is not and never was #1 candidate for spaghetti code! That disgrace belongs to Cobol. On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Elias Athanasopoulos wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 10:04:30PM +, Heimo Claasen wrote: > > Sorry, I should have made this a bit more explicit: as the sub-thread > > started

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
Well, obasic may be available. It costs about $100.00 for the registered version but I don't know if the company survived. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majo

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-23 Thread David Jones
On 22 Oct 02, at 11:34, Elias Athanasopoulos wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:02:33PM -1000, David Jones > wrote: > No, it has 100% to do with the way you code. You > can > > This is the criterion from the user/programmer > perspective. It is well known that you can use almost > everything in

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-22 Thread Elias Athanasopoulos
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 08:02:33PM -1000, David Jones wrote: > No, it has 100% to do with the way you code. You can This is the criterion from the user/programmer perspective. It is well known that you can use almost everything in a bad manner... You can kill someone even using a pen, but it's k

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-21 Thread David Jones
On 22 Oct 02, at 1:12, Elias Athanasopoulos wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 10:04:30PM +, Heimo Claasen > wrote: > Sorry, I should have made this a bit more > explicit: as the sub-thread > started from some exchange > on XBasic v-a-v Quickbasic, I referred to the > lack of a > Basic _compiler

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-21 Thread ichi
Heimo Claasen wrote: > > As to apps: Yes, there's a number of net tools; there's > WGET, FTP clients; I don't like Pine that much though Have you tried Elm? > Some sound tools do run from textmode command line, > And sure there's more. Then why did you say the following? > > > there are mis

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-21 Thread Elias Athanasopoulos
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 10:04:30PM +, Heimo Claasen wrote: > Sorry, I should have made this a bit more explicit: as the sub-thread > started from some exchange on XBasic v-a-v Quickbasic, I referred to the > lack of a Basic _compiler_. > (_interpreters_ use to be hotbeds for spaghetti code, ind

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-21 Thread jbradford
If you like BASIC, but can't find a Linux implementation that suits you, why not compile PHP for command line use - it's a powerful language that's pretty easy to migrate to from BASIC, plus, once you've learnt it, you can use it for web-based applications as well. http://www.php.net John. - To u

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-21 Thread Heimo Claasen
Sorry, I should have made this a bit more explicit: as the sub-thread started from some exchange on XBasic v-a-v Quickbasic, I referred to the lack of a Basic _compiler_. (_interpreters_ use to be hotbeds for spaghetti code, indeed. And in any case, they are "slow"; which is the reason for having b

Re: (X and other) basics (was: A few more things...)

2002-10-20 Thread Heimo Claasen
The dependence on a GUI is indeed a bad thing. I did mention XBasic because that seems to be the _only_ Basic dialect to be found for the Linux environment at all. And indeed I would like to find a textmode/comnand line Basic (or for that matter, just any other language but C_variant), in order to