> > Third, I wanted to uninstall the driver RPM. First, I used rpm -ql on
> > NVIDIA_kernel to get the driver's name. The one return was
> > /lib/modules/2.4.18-10/kernel/drivers/video/NVdriver. Then I ran: rpm -Uvh
> > NVdriver. Unfortunately, "no such file." Apparently I can't run the x
> > serve
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Haines Brown wrote:
> Lawson,
>
> At this point I'm only trying to back out of my abortive nVidia driver
> install and get back to the nv driver that came with my RedHat 7.3
> distribution.
>
> To do that, I recovered my old XF86Config-4 file. The rpm install for
> the driver
Lawson,
At this point I'm only trying to back out of my abortive nVidia driver
install and get back to the nv driver that came with my RedHat 7.3
distribution.
To do that, I recovered my old XF86Config-4 file. The rpm install for
the driver commented out lib.GLcore.a and libglx.a, which I restor
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Haines Brown wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Here I sit, almost dead in the water. Confident that I could run emacs
> at the command prompt outside X (I'm writing now with emacs-rmail, but
> have lost X altogether), I went ahead and installed the two rpm files
> and edited my XF86Config-4
Paul,
Here I sit, almost dead in the water. Confident that I could run emacs
at the command prompt outside X (I'm writing now with emacs-rmail, but
have lost X altogether), I went ahead and installed the two rpm files
and edited my XF86Config-4 file. The result was loss of access to my X
server. I
Emacs was originally designed for text terminals; although I run emacs
in it's own window, I use all the keyboard controls to do things rather
than point and click. You should have no probs using it in a plain text
term if you know the important shortcuts.
P.
On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 16:35, Haines B
Paul,
Thanks for the explanation.
The reason I asked is that I need to do some work on my X system while
the X system is not running, and wanted to know the capabilities of the
command prompt outside of X.
For example, if I run emacs, I might get a text-based emacs from which
I do the work easil
The command prompt you see is actually a software _emulation_ of old
style 'dumb' terminals, what people used as computers before PCs came
about in the 80s.
Although it responds differently to some of the details, there is little
functional difference between an x-term and the virtual terminal you
Ray Olszewski wrote:
>
> In principle, you could run X with no Window Manager,
> just starting a single xterm when the X server starts.
> I've never done this myself (I have read about the
> procedure, in a *very* old book),
I ran X on an old 486 like this for several months.
To see how it wo
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>
> didn't mean to sound condescending. I was just trying to add to the
> point of importance of RAM. Virtual memory makes it so that you can
> address MORE RAM than
didn't mean to sound condescending. I was just trying to add to the
point of importance of RAM. Virtual memory makes it so that you can
address MORE RAM than you physically have. It has many other benefits
as well. But it goes without saying that the more RAM you have, the
better. When I first
Bryan Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Think that was informative? Learn assembly on x86 Linux.
> You have NO idea what a computer goes through just to add
> two numbers, let alone manage network traffic... The most
> shocking part is the idea of virtual memory.
Bryan,
I thought my little
Think that was informative? Learn assembly on x86 Linux. You have NO
idea what a computer goes through just to add two numbers, let alone
manage network traffic... The most shocking part is the idea of virtual
memory.
On Fri, 2002-10-25 at 22:29, John E. Jay Maass wrote:
> > > How much do you
On Ray Olszewski's friendly remarks of: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:22:50 -0700
[REM: Sorry to have used the personal e-dress: this is because the list's
header does carry the list address only somewhare long awy on the From:
or To: lines - I have to paste it in each time manually. If tired one
forgets.
A
> > How much do you have now ? (memory)
> 80m. Why do you ask? I had 8m in an old 486 to start with.
At Computer Learning Center we were required to memorize a rough
block diagram showing a cpu, its ram, a hard drive controler,
hard drive, and network card.
Using arrows we had to trace a bit of
I thought maybe you were working with 4, 8 or 12 or even 20 for some
reason. Eighty megs is ever so much more do-able.
Lorraine
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>
> On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, LL Phillips wrote:
>
> > How much do you have now ? (memory)
> > Lorraine
>
> 80m. Why do you ask? I had 8m in an
At 03:14 PM 10/25/02 -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
Please allow a naive question.
When I boot, I arrive at a log in prompt. When I log in, I arrive at
command prompt for the user.
You explained how one might start X without a window manager, and I
that might have some utility.
But my question is,
Please allow a naive question.
When I boot, I arrive at a log in prompt. When I log in, I arrive at
command prompt for the user.
You explained how one might start X without a window manager, and I
that might have some utility.
But my question is, is there any difference in functionality between
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, LL Phillips wrote:
> How much do you have now ? (memory)
> Lorraine
80m. Why do you ask? I had 8m in an old 486 to start with.
Lawson
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> In principle, you could run X with no Window Manager, just starting a
> single xterm when the X server starts. I've never done this myself (I have
> read about the procedure, in a *very* old book), but perhaps when he sees
> this message, Lawson will ske
You forgot to cc the list with your message; I added it back in this reply,
which includes your complete message at the end.
First, to avoid conflicts, you do not need to remove the various packages
from your filesystem. All you need to do is not run them (or in the case of
libraries, not run p
How much do you have now ? (memory)
Lorraine
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> I have more memory now, and icewm doesn't take too much.
>
> Lawson
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> I've never tried it myself, but I seem to recall that Lawson Whitney (are
> you there, Lawson? acn you comment helpfully?) has in the past run his
> xserver "bare metal", without even a basic Window Manager. I don't know how
> versatile he found that set
At , Heimo Claasen wrote:
Ray's "first draft to a window manager how-to" did (finally!) give me
some insight.
(I would like to go longer in reading and putting other bits and pieces
in there too - just haven*'t got the time right now, woner when ever...)
Practical question: is it possible, and ho
Ray's "first draft to a window manager how-to" did (finally!) give me
some insight.
(I would like to go longer in reading and putting other bits and pieces
in there too - just haven*'t got the time right now, woner when ever...)
Practical question: is it possible, and how then, to run X and some
a
Wow, what a superb answer. I think you passed the exam... :)
May I add this summary for people who really know nothing about
programming (yet...). This is how it was first explained to me and it
helped me s much later on:
Approximately:
X (the 'GUI') draws boxes on the screen.
The window man
I looked around for a bit to find a good HowTo or FAQ that addressed the
distinctions among X itself, a Window Manager, A Desktop, and a Desktop
Environment. I found nothing really good, though these links are the best
of the lot I found:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XWindow-Overview-HOWTO/in
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Chuck Gelm wrote:
>
> I have RedHat8.0 ('tho I see that this distro is not liked! :-|).
> I'll try a few GUI install choices and what I can learn.
>
> Although I am still confused about who is doing what,
> with which, and to whom.
>
> IOW, I do not understand the differenc
Hi, Paul:
Lovely. Your story sounds like what I want to do. :-)
I have RedHat8.0 ('tho I see that this distro is not liked! :-|).
I'll try a few GUI install choices and what I can learn.
Although I am still confused about who is doing what,
with which, and to whom.
IOW, I do not understand t
Linux is slowly getting better and easier for people who don't want to
spend hours fiddling with it, but it isn't quite there yet.
Ok, here's what I use:
I currently have Red Hat 7.3 installed on my workstation. I have been
using Red Hat precisely because the installation is pretty friendly - I
c
Heimo Claasen wrote:
>
> I'm struggling since ages to make a specific SCSI device run
>
> a new Debian-3.0 install first _did_ have it run
Hurray!
> For again some unrelated reason, there had to be a re-install
> of this very Debian; I used not the "frame buffer" but the
> "compact" kernel i
It would be interesting to go into more details with this, especially
in _comparing_ different window managers:
> Incidentally, you don't _need_ a lot of the software you can get this
> way - just directly configuring X will give you access to most of the
> stuff. But you certainly need _some_ kin
Chuck,
Most of the window managers have web sites where you can get sources and
info. You might find that useful when trying to decide which one you
like best.
Mozilla is actually Netscape 6 (for practical purposes, anyhow). AFAIK,
Netscape is (or at least was) based on the same code right back in
At 10:15 AM 10/20/02 -0400, Chuck Gelm wrote:
Howdy, Y'all:
I am trying to 'upgrade' from 'console' to GUI.
I think I have successfully installed XFree86/4.2.1.
I can 'startx' and I get a monochrome desktop with
a tiny clock and three windows; 'login', 'xterm', and 'xterm'.
I can toggle among th
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