Re: OT: SMTP

2004-04-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:02:28 +1200, you wrote: >On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:14, Steve Holdoway wrote: >> SMTP... now that's what 98% of all known statistics use for >> _sending_ mail? > >Where does that sent mail go? > >RFC 821 >-- >The SM

Re: OT: SMTP

2004-04-10 Thread Hadley Rich
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:14, Steve Holdoway wrote: > SMTP... now that's what 98% of all known statistics use for > _sending_ mail? Where does that sent mail go? RFC 821 -- The SMTP design is based on the following model of communicatio

Re: su not working

2004-04-10 Thread Andrew Tarr
Matthew Gregan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 04:41:35PM +1200, Andrew Tarr wrote: > > > So I reinstalled Debian from the installation beta on my laptop, and > > Was this a fresh reinstallation, or have you restored files from backup? It was a fresh installation. /home an

Re: su not working

2004-04-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:54:01 +1200, you wrote: >On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 11:10:59PM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: >> FWIW, In the 20+ years that I've been using *nices for a living, it >> wasn't until I used Linux that I even heard of the wheel group. > >The wheel group hasn't been strongly adopted

Re: su not working

2004-04-10 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:10, Steve Holdoway wrote: > If you're using debian, it might be worth running an apt-get update, > just to see if there's something out of kilter, I must admit to > running a b*stardised version of Fedora, which I know isn't PC in this > group (^: nothing unPC about that as

Re: wheel, WAS su not working

2004-04-10 Thread Nick Rout
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:54, Matthew Gregan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 11:10:59PM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: > > FWIW, In the 20+ years that I've been using *nices for a living, it > > wasn't until I used Linux that I even heard of the wheel group. > > The wheel group hasn't been strongly ado

Re: su not working

2004-04-10 Thread Matthew Gregan
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 11:10:59PM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: > FWIW, In the 20+ years that I've been using *nices for a living, it > wasn't until I used Linux that I even heard of the wheel group. The wheel group hasn't been strongly adopted in Linux. Any Linux use of the wheel group is derive

Re: su not working

2004-04-10 Thread Nick Rout
mea culpa, Matthew & Andrew are perfectly correct, I did not read the original post properly. My apologies for clogging the ariwaves. I'll shut up now. On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:28, Andrew Tarr wrote: > Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:07, Christopher Sawtell wrote:

Re: OT: cheap network cards

2004-04-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 15:43:00 +1200, you wrote: >On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:38, Nick Rout wrote: >> err what pop server? I don't have one. a strange assumption. and >> anyway if you do get your mail via pop, the bandwidth is already >> wasted getting it to the popserver. > >Apologies, my assumption[1]

Re: su not working

2004-04-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:28:31 +1200, you wrote: > >Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:07, Christopher Sawtell wrote: >> > On Saturday 10 April 2004 16:41, Andrew Tarr wrote: >> > > su: Authentication Failure >> > > Sorry. >> > >> > On ye olde Unix, and some Linux dist

Re: su not working

2004-04-10 Thread Andrew Tarr
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:07, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > On Saturday 10 April 2004 16:41, Andrew Tarr wrote: > > > su: Authentication Failure > > > Sorry. > > > > On ye olde Unix, and some Linux distributions, you have to be a member of > > the wheel group

Re: su not working

2004-04-10 Thread Matthew Gregan
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 04:41:35PM +1200, Andrew Tarr wrote: > So I reinstalled Debian from the installation beta on my laptop, and Was this a fresh reinstallation, or have you restored files from backup? Are the permissions on /bin/su set to 4755? > Now I can no longer 'su'. I can log in as ro

Re: su not working

2004-04-10 Thread Matthew Gregan
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 06:56:48PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: > On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:07, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > > On ye olde Unix, and some Linux distributions, you have to be a member of > > the wheel group to be able to su. I'm now sure if this is current Debian > > policy, but it's worth a