Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 03/08/05, Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Only problem is DNS. Takes about 5-10 seconds to resolve anything. > > You should be getting instant responses from your ISP's name server. I do. dig returns info straight away. I think I've realised what it might be. We use the maxnet

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> Only problem is DNS. Takes about 5-10 seconds to resolve anything. You should be getting instant responses from your ISP's name server. Does your adsl modem muck around with DNS queries? Can you turn the modem's DNS cache off? Otherwise you'll have to run your own caching DNS. Volker -- Volke

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Paul Swafford
run your own dns server? Paul Carl Cerecke wrote: On 03/08/05, Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problem with adsl connections is a recurring one. All it takes is some checking - very simple to do at the completion to see that it is working as expected. I guess it's cheaper to

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 03/08/05, Volker Kuhlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem with adsl connections is a recurring one. All it takes is some > > checking - very simple to do at the completion to see that it is working as > > expected. > > I guess it's cheaper to just give a free month's rental... > Carl

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
> The problem with adsl connections is a recurring one. All it takes is some > checking - very simple to do at the completion to see that it is working as > expected. I guess it's cheaper to just give a free month's rental... Carl, if I were you I wouldn't give in without compensation. Volker --

RE: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Maurice Butler
- you know what you want to write but does it read that way. Maurice > -Original Message- > From: Derek Smithies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2005 3:38 p.m. > To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz > Subject: RE: ADSL link problems > > > Hi

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Nick Rout
AFAIK its a case where polarity is important, although god knows where I heard that or wherther it is true. On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:39:00 +1200 Carl Cerecke wrote: > On 03/08/05, Maurice Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been told the wiring at the exchange just involves put a patch co

RE: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, The problem here is:: "drawing conclusions based on a simple model of the system" The best illustration I know of this problem: Remember the picture you were taught at school on the structure of an atom. In theory, the nucleus should just fly apart cause it consists of lots of separate posi

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 03/08/05, Maurice Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been told the wiring at the exchange just involves put a patch cord > in the right place so what is hard? If I understood correctly, it was installed "the wrong way around". The tech guy said there were two ways to do the connection,

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 14:56, Maurice Butler wrote: > I have been told the wiring at the exchange just involves put a patch cord > in the right place so what is hard? Reading The Fine Manual which tells you how. ok. Having seen schools at work, I'm a cynic. Sorry. -- CS

RE: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Maurice Butler
bject: Re: ADSL link problems > > > > On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 10:24:58 +1200 > Carl Cerecke wrote: > > > I gave up and booked in a $150 visit for today to install a splitter. > > > > Just got a ring from a Telecom tech now. The "idiot who did it cocked > > u

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 10:24:58 +1200 Carl Cerecke wrote: > I gave up and booked in a $150 visit for today to install a splitter. > > Just got a ring from a Telecom tech now. The "idiot who did it cocked > up the wiring" at the exchange, apparently. He's fixed it. Will try > again this evening. A

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Jamie Dobbs
You can actually get a free month for their mistakes (usually), try and ask them for that. > Some progress! > > After Nick's efforts (thanks Nick) on the weekend, and my efforts > during the week. (Never spent so much time in my roof space!) I still > couldn't get it working. Telecom (so they said

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-08-02 Thread Carl Cerecke
Some progress! After Nick's efforts (thanks Nick) on the weekend, and my efforts during the week. (Never spent so much time in my roof space!) I still couldn't get it working. Telecom (so they said) tested it twice (from the exchange). All good from their end. I took my modem and cable next door (

Re: ADSL link problems (update)

2005-07-31 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 30/07/05, Wayne Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:59, Jamie Dobbs wrote: > > > > Those cables for your old modem are the same so > > > should work. > > > > Not necessarily, there are 2 distinctly different pinouts on RJ11 to BT > > converter plugs, one of which moves th

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-29 Thread Wayne Rooney
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:59, Jamie Dobbs wrote: > > Those cables for your old modem are the same so > > should work. > > Not necessarily, there are 2 distinctly different pinouts on RJ11 to BT > converter plugs, one of which moves the inner cable pair to the outside > the other doesn't. All Plain O

RE: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Craig FALCONER
Carl - Remember to get your one month's free rental for your dissatisfaction :) -Original Message- From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 29 July 2005 11:48 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: ADSL link problems Carl Cerecke wrote: >

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Robert Fisher
Carl Cerecke wrote: > 3. Give Nick a ring, and ask him politely to come around with gear > (incl. cables) that he knows is working. > This is IMHO, the first thing to do. I have experienced problems when shifting house when Telecom and my ISP gave conflicting versions of my state of "new" connec

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > The modem didn't come with a telecom-style phone plug, so I'm using > >> >> > the same one from my dial-up modem:

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Jamie Dobbs
> On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > The modem didn't come with a telecom-style phone plug, so I'm using >> >> > the same one from my dial-up modem: male telecom - male rj-11 (or >> >> > whatever number that is)

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > The modem didn't come with a telecom-style phone plug, so I'm using > >> > the same one from my dial-up modem: male telecom - male rj-11 (or > >> > whatever number that is). The s

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Jamie Dobbs
> Carl mentioned in an off-list comment .. that some previous guy had done > an amateur job of wiring the place with extra sockets .. that sound the > issue here .. > > step 1 check the cabling Yep that could be the problem, and if it is then it will not be cheap (or easy) to fix. > > .. > > P >

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Jamie Dobbs
> Oh - so maybe this is Carl's problem? I suspect so, but as I have jsut said he'd be better off getting the "correct" style of ADSL filter from DSE and take it from there, I'm always very suspicous of mutliple converters all joined together. > If this is eliminated / confirmed, and a direct conn

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Swafford
Carl mentioned in an off-list comment .. that some previous guy had done an amateur job of wiring the place with extra sockets .. that sound the issue here .. step 1 check the cabling .. P Roger Searle wrote: Oh - so maybe this is Carl's problem? If this is eliminated / confirmed, and a di

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Jamie Dobbs
> On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > The modem didn't come with a telecom-style phone plug, so I'm using >> > the same one from my dial-up modem: male telecom - male rj-11 (or >> > whatever number that is). The splitter is male rj11 - (female rj11 >> > phone/female rj11 ADS

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Roger Searle
Oh - so maybe this is Carl's problem? If this is eliminated / confirmed, and a direct connection to the jackpoint won't result in a connection, then it's got to be a Telecom problem? And as David points out, surely they can't charge you for fixing something they didn't have right in the first p

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Swafford
use that cable .. plug a phone in .. if it goes .. you're sweet P Carl Cerecke wrote: On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Those cables for your old modem are the same so should work. Not necessarily, there are 2 distinctly different pinouts on RJ11 to BT converter plugs, one

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Those cables for your old modem are the same so > > should work. > > Not necessarily, there are 2 distinctly different pinouts on RJ11 to BT > converter plugs, one of which moves the inner cable pair to the outside > the other doesn't. Arrgg

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 29/07/05, Jamie Dobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The modem didn't come with a telecom-style phone plug, so I'm using > > the same one from my dial-up modem: male telecom - male rj-11 (or > > whatever number that is). The splitter is male rj11 - (female rj11 > > phone/female rj11 ADSL). I'

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 29/07/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But try unplugging all of them and see if it makes a difference. Already tried that. Didn't work. Cheers, Carl.

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Swafford
yeah .. plan .. 5 sockets you need some extra gear I'd go with only master might save you $150 again good luck! Paul Carl Cerecke wrote: On 29/07/05, Paul Swafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: step 1 unplug ALL phones in the house .. step 2 plug ONLY your modem in .. if it still fails to con

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread David Kirk
Carl, If you unplug everything but the router in (without any splitters or filters) and you still get nothing, and you have done the same with another known good router, then you will need to call your ISP to get Telecom out to have a look. If it is a problem at Telecoms end (and not something th

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Jamie Dobbs
> Those cables for your old modem are the same so > should work. Not necessarily, there are 2 distinctly different pinouts on RJ11 to BT converter plugs, one of which moves the inner cable pair to the outside the other doesn't.

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Jamie Dobbs
> The modem didn't come with a telecom-style phone plug, so I'm using > the same one from my dial-up modem: male telecom - male rj-11 (or > whatever number that is). The splitter is male rj11 - (female rj11 > phone/female rj11 ADSL). I've also got a male rj11 - male rj11. You need the filter as i

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:50:26 +1200 Carl Cerecke wrote: > On 29/07/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:29:27 +1200 > > Carl Cerecke wrote: > > > > > On 29/07/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > You have EITHER a splitter (installed by Telecom) OR

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 29/07/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:29:27 +1200 > Carl Cerecke wrote: > > > On 29/07/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You have EITHER a splitter (installed by Telecom) OR a filter on every > > > phone OTHER than the adsl device. > > > > OK. S

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Roger Searle
Carl Cerecke wrote: I didn't use the splitter at all. Just plugged it straight into the phone jack. Tried unplugging the phone too. I did leave it on for a few minutes, too. The modem didn't come with a telecom-style phone plug, so I'm using the same one from my dial-up modem: male telecom -

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:29:27 +1200 Carl Cerecke wrote: > On 29/07/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You have EITHER a splitter (installed by Telecom) OR a filter on every > > phone OTHER than the adsl device. > > OK. So the little box that is supposed to plug into the phone jack and >

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 29/07/05, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You have EITHER a splitter (installed by Telecom) OR a filter on every > phone OTHER than the adsl device. OK. So the little box that is supposed to plug into the phone jack and has two sockets( a phone and an ADSL), is *NOT* a splitter. > It sh

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread David Kirk
Carl, > I didn't use the splitter at all. Just plugged it straight into the > phone jack. Tried unplugging the phone too. I did leave it on for a > few minutes, too. > > The modem didn't come with a telecom-style phone plug, so I'm using > the same one from my dial-up modem: male telecom - male r

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 29/07/05, Craig FALCONER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Carl - do any of your neighbours have working DSL ? Good question. No idea. Cheers, Carl.

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Nick Rout
You have EITHER a splitter (installed by Telecom) OR a filter on every phone OTHER than the adsl device. It should work with no filters, but when the phone rings or someone rings out it will drop the adsl connection, and you may also get interference on the voice line. I have some adsl devices th

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
On 29/07/05, Roger Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You may have tried this already, but what follows is my experience > resolving similar "telecom" issues with phones and adsl that exist in > the house... > > It may take a couple of minutes for the adsl link to activate after > switching the b

RE: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Craig FALCONER
Carl - do any of your neighbours have working DSL ? -Original Message- From: Roger Searle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 29 July 2005 9:04 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: ADSL link problems You may have tried this already, but what follows is my

RE: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Craig FALCONER
Cerecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 29 July 2005 8:49 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: ADSL link problems Hi, Unfortunatley, I haven't yet got to the point where this can be on-topic. My ADSL modem/switch/wireless box arrived yesterday. A netgear DG834G (which, by th

Re: ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Roger Searle
You may have tried this already, but what follows is my experience resolving similar "telecom" issues with phones and adsl that exist in the house... It may take a couple of minutes for the adsl link to activate after switching the box on. If you've powered it down, leave off for a minute be

ADSL link problems

2005-07-28 Thread Carl Cerecke
Hi, Unfortunatley, I haven't yet got to the point where this can be on-topic. My ADSL modem/switch/wireless box arrived yesterday. A netgear DG834G (which, by the way, runs Linux. Not completely OT then.) Anyway, I plugged it in, turned it on, and no ADSL link light. We've got 5 phone jack point