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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Trev
> Sent: Friday, 26 July 2002 4:22 p.m.
> To: Hansen Loke
> Cc: Adrian Robertson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: /etc/fstab [was: Re: Install Fest Post Mortem]
>
> Pe
> Perhaps if you added the ' -t vfat ' you might be successful
>
> 'mount -t vfat /dev/hd?? /some/mountpoint'
>
> The type of filesys you are trying to mount.
>
> Cheers
> Trevor
>
Nope, tried that as well already.
Hansen
>
> http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/fat32.shtml
>
sysinternals has some very good utilities (for windows) - a gizmo that
gives stats like top, one that monitors file access, one that monitors
registry access - great for deciphering how windows programs work and
where their settings ar
>
> have you put the custom kernel into /boot ??
> --
> Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Woah, I have to do that? I thought that the make install or make bzImage does that for
me. So what files do I have to move to /boot?
Hansen
Theres issues there too... what if the windows OS doesn't speak fat32,
and only knows about fat16? NT4 comes to mind, but I'm not sure about
2000 or XP.
On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 09:36, Sascha Beaumont wrote:
> For what its worth, if you reinstall windows its a nice idea to have a fat32
> partition
tition for your OS and programs.
- Original Message -
From: "Hansen Loke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CLUG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: /etc/fstab [was: Re: Install Fest Post Mortem]
> ok, this will be my last
> ok, this will be my last try before a complete reinstallation of linux
> (hopefully with ntfs filesystem as well). I've tried make bzImage and make
> install, one of them had put the booting option into GRUB, so that the next time
> I booted up I had the options kernel-source-2.4.18-custom plu
ok, this will be my last try before a complete reinstallation of linux
(hopefully with ntfs filesystem as well). I've tried make bzImage and make
install, one of them had put the booting option into GRUB, so that the next time
I booted up I had the options kernel-source-2.4.18-custom plus my othe
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 02:05:26PM +1200, V K wrote:
> Hm. If you don't enable sound support in the kernel, you won't be able
> to load any sound module.
sound support itself can be a module too.
greetings, martin.
--
looking for a job anywhere in the world, doing pike programming, sTeam/caudi
hursday, July 25, 2002 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: /etc/fstab [was: Re: Install Fest Post Mortem]
> > > This unpacks the source, and creates a directory called
> > > "kernel-source-2.4.18" (or something similier).
> > >
> > > Change to that directory and t
> > This unpacks the source, and creates a directory called
> > "kernel-source-2.4.18" (or something similier).
> >
> > Change to that directory and type:
> >
> > make xconfig
> >
> > Work through it. And as it's my first kernel compile, I'll select "no" when
> > I'm asked about support for module
On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 14:05, V K wrote:
> Hm. If you don't enable sound support in the kernel, you won't be able
> to load any sound module.
Not quite right. The kernel that I am currently using (2.4.17) does not
have sound support, but I can play sounds because I compiled up the ALSA
modules
> > It probably was in the distro. Your kernel was compiled with ntfs
> > enabled, or you wouldn't have been able to load the module. The kernel
> No. (sorry to be so harsh :)
I don't care
>
> Your kernel needs to be compiled with support for modules, then you can
> insert any kernel modul
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, V K wrote:
> It probably was in the distro. Your kernel was compiled with ntfs
> enabled, or you wouldn't have been able to load the module. The kernel
> needs the hooks for all the modules which can be loaded, so ntfs was
> enabled at compile time for your kernel. Also, if t
> tar xfj kernel-source-2.4.18.tar.bz2
> or
> tar xfz kernel-source-2.4.18.tar.gz
no, if you installed the source from rpm it is unpacked for you in
/usr/src/linux which will be a link to /usr/src/linux-2.4.18
>
> This unpacks the source, and creates a directory called
> "kernel-source-2.4.18"
2002/07/24 Wed AM 08:52:23 GMT+12:00
> To: Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: /etc/fstab [was: Re: Install Fest Post Mortem]
>
> > Can someone now run him thru configuring and compiling a kernel? I am no
> > expert.
> > --
> > Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROT
> Can someone now run him thru configuring and compiling a kernel? I am no
> expert.
> --
> Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ok, I've installed the kernal source code into the computer, or so I think,
'cause I couldnt' find it. I've installed it using the Red Hat 7.3 CD and
selecting upgrade on one
> > I have to say I have always put grub or lilo on the mbr.
>
> This may be a bad idea on some laptops, in particular Dell Inspiron
> (the reason is the save-to-disk/hibernation feature)
All this stuff is probably on its own small partition, if you enter
another boot target for this into lilo
> I used an NTFS module (insmod ntfs I think) on my Mandrake kernel which
> dosen't have ntfs by default. I dont recall if that module came in the
> distro
It probably was in the distro. Your kernel was compiled with ntfs
enabled, or you wouldn't have been able to load the module. The kernel
need
> to the GRUB interface. Some people may say that it might not be a good
> thing to put the linux booting sequence in the main booting partition
> but as I've discovered before I can revert back to my original booting
> sequence by
I have observed several times as well that experimenting with pla
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Nick Rout wrote:
> Can someone now run him thru configuring and compiling a kernel? I am no
> expert.
I've sent him the basic instructions to get him going.
It may or may not work just compiling the ntfs module...depending on which
kernel version he has and which kernel sou
Nick Rout wrote:
> > but when I tried 'locate ntfs' here are the results:
> >
> > /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/linux/ntfs_fs.ph
> > /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/linux/ntfs_fs_i.ph
> > /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/linux/ntfs_fs_sb.ph
> > /usr/include/linux/ntfs_fs.h
> > /usr/include/linux
> > modprobe ntfs
> Doesn't work. Bad Command.
Probably you didn't have the full path to modprobe, try
/sbin/modprobe ntfs
if that says bad command then
whereis modprobe
and use the path pointed to.
> Here's the output:
These outputs aren't relevant if modprobe didn't run. Try again after
ru
> I remember you, you were at the table next to us, I am glad to hear that
> you finally got your system running, can you boot into Windows though?
Yep, just tages ages to get into Windows 2000. But Windows 98 is ok. When
booting my computer it goes into GRUB first then if I choose Windows it'll
Ok, here are the results
> Hansen, try typing this at a root prompt (ie logged in as root)
> modprobe ntfs
Doesn't work. Bad Command.
> tell us what result you get. also straight after
>
> tail /var/log/messages
>
> dmesg|tail
>
> and tell us what each output says.
Here's the output:
Uniform
>
>jeremyb.
>
>
>
>>From: Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: 2002/07/22 Mon AM 09:14:08 GMT+12:00
>>To: Hansen Loke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>CC: Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: Install Fest Post Mortem
>>
>>Well done
>>
I remember you, you were at the table next to us, I am glad to hear that
you finally got your system running, can you boot into Windows though?
JJ
At 09:10 22/07/02 +1200, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm probably the only one that didn't have Linux installed after several
>hours at the install fest.
At 11:08 22/07/02, you wrote:
> > > I have to say I have always put grub or lilo on the mbr.
> >
> > This may be a bad idea on some laptops, in particular Dell Inspiron
> > (the reason is the save-to-disk/hibernation feature)
>
> Point taken - how then do you set up dual boot? Are you doomed to
>
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Tim Wright wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote:
>
> > This may be a bad idea on some laptops, in particular Dell Inspiron
> > (the reason is the save-to-disk/hibernation feature)
>
> This could be why save-to-disk doesn't work on my Acer laptop. It saves
Hansen, try typing this at a root prompt (ie logged in as root)
modprobe ntfs
tell us what result you get. also straight after
tail /var/log/messages
dmesg|tail
and tell us what each output says.
then type
locate ntfs.o
and tell us what output you get. This will tell us if you have the nt
> The one thing I forgot to mention last time is that /windows (or wherever
> you are mounting on) must be a directory, and must exist. Also, remember
> to mount the partition (/dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2, or /dev/hdb1, or ...)
> rather than the drive (/dev/hda or /dev/hdb).
>
> To mount without using
Greetings
> > > I have to say I have always put grub or lilo on the mbr.
> >
> > This may be a bad idea on some laptops, in particular Dell Inspiron (the
> > reason is the save-to-disk/hibernation feature)
>
> Point taken - how then do you set up dual boot? Are you doomed to
> floppy booting?
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote:
> This may be a bad idea on some laptops, in particular Dell Inspiron
> (the reason is the save-to-disk/hibernation feature)
This could be why save-to-disk doesn't work on my Acer laptop. It saves
OK, but won't restore (error message saying 'partiti
> > I have to say I have always put grub or lilo on the mbr.
>
> This may be a bad idea on some laptops, in particular Dell Inspiron
> (the reason is the save-to-disk/hibernation feature)
Point taken - how then do you set up dual boot? Are you doomed to
floppy booting?
--
Nick Rout <[EMAIL P
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Nick Rout wrote:
> I have to say I have always put grub or lilo on the mbr.
This may be a bad idea on some laptops, in particular Dell Inspiron
(the reason is the save-to-disk/hibernation feature)
Cheers,
--
Ryurick M. Hristev mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computer Systems Ma
Hey All,
Yup your right, As general rule of thumb make sure
your windows is installed first before you do a linux
install. But that being said some service packs like
the up comming XP one will rewrite the MBR. (Well the
beta does). So a back up boot disc is a really good
idea.
I also make sure
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Hansen Loke wrote:
> What does the uid=45714 option mean?
mount so the user is set to 45714. In /etc/passwd:
tnw13:x:45714:9500:Tim Wright,344,x7755,377 7762:/home/tnw13:/bin/bash
which gives user tnw13 read access to the entire partition.
try: ls -land ~
to figure out y
I've seen hassles with newer versions of windows not
re/installing unless you reset the mbr :-(
jeremyb.
> From: Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2002/07/22 Mon AM 09:14:08 GMT+12:00
> To: Hansen Loke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g
> It looks like you know enough to setup /etc/fstab currectly, but in case,
> you need something like this to mount a ntfs partition (taken from my
> laptop):
Yeah, after hours of reading couple of books on linux. There's still much to
learn for me.
> /dev/hda3 /windows ntfs defaults,ro,uid=4571
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Hansen Loke wrote:
> Thanks for all those that helped me anyway. Now I'll just pester you
> guys for help with my new toy. Like how to access other parts of my hard
> drive??? I can only mount the primary hard drive i.e. hda1, but not the
> rest. And it can't read ntfs when I
Well done
I have to say I have always put grub or lilo on the mbr.
the command from a windows boot floppy to restore the mbr is fdisk /mbr
but who would want to
> Hi all,
>
> I'm probably the only one that didn't have Linux installed after several
> hours at the install fest. Couldn't g
Hi all,
I'm probably the only one that didn't have Linux installed after several
hours at the install fest. Couldn't get the booting disk working and
all. Those who have helped me might be interested on what I did
afterwards. (no no.I didn't start jumping on the Linux CDs or my
computer)
Bef
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