Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread steve
If you're serious about learning to run linux as a server rather than a desktop, then choose either debian lenny or CentOS 5.3. As you're already using ubuntu, then this is the one that'll probably be easier. Unless you have a mentor to aid the process, then choose the one they're most comfortable

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Robert Fisher
Daniel Hill wrote: I'm about to acquire a old computer from my friend (AMD 1.6GHz 80GB HDD) and want to eventually set it up as a webserver, game server, wireless router and any other servers that I mite want to play with I also want to learn linux properly (currently running ubuntu on my desktop

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Craig Falconer
Daniel Hill wrote, On 14/08/09 13:53: * Any other suggestions ? the other option would be to just setup the server with ubuntu server or debian, and use a VM on my desktop to learn linux with maybe slackware Start with the one you have the most experience with already, be it 1) deb based (debi

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Hill
Robert Fisher wrote: > but if you want to learn more about Linux as you go and are really > prepared to get your hands dirty, go for Gentoo. getting my hands dirty is exactly what I want to do just don't know if I can be bothered with the 8h compile time, wondering if there is another distro that'l

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Daniel Hill wrote: > I'm about to acquire a old computer from my friend (AMD 1.6GHz 80GB HDD) > and want to eventually set it up as a webserver, game server, wireless > router and any other servers that I mite want to play with > I also want to learn linux properly

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Daniel Hill wrote: > Robert Fisher wrote: > > but if you want to learn more about Linux as you go and are really > > prepared to get your hands dirty, go for Gentoo. > getting my hands dirty is exactly what I want to do just don't know if I > can be bothered with t

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Hill
> Install time has been much much easier for folks the past 2 years, > with stage3 being the default instead of stage1, and stage 1 now being > officially unsupported. Stage 1 imho gives you a much closer look at > how things work. ( I've become a bit of a masochist on the deal, and > have install

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Daniel Hill wrote: > > > Install time has been much much easier for folks the past 2 years, > > with stage3 being the default instead of stage1, and stage 1 now being > > officially unsupported. Stage 1 imho gives you a much closer look at > > how things work. ( I'

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Daniel Hill wrote: > Robert Fisher wrote: >> but if you want to learn more about Linux as you go and are really >> prepared to get your hands dirty, go for Gentoo. > getting my hands dirty is exactly what I want to do just don't know if I > can be bothered with the

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Hill
Kent Fredric wrote: > For minimal pain, don't unmask the ~ ( testing ) versions of things > during stage 1. You'll find if you do you'll find a fun gcc cyclic > dependency :) ( that is, don't set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS= to "~amd64" or > "~x86" leave them at "amd64" or "x86" ) > > Once you get to stage

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Ross Drummond
On Friday 14 August 2009, Daniel Hill wrote: > Kent Fredric wrote: > > For minimal pain, don't unmask the ~ ( testing ) versions of things > > during stage 1. You'll find if you do you'll find a fun gcc cyclic > > dependency :) ( that is, don't set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS= to "~amd64" or > > "~x86" lea

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Daniel Hill wrote: > Kent Fredric wrote: > > For minimal pain, don't unmask the ~ ( testing ) versions of things > > during stage 1. You'll find if you do you'll find a fun gcc cyclic > > dependency :) ( that is, don't set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS= to "~amd64" or > > "~

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Ross Drummond wrote: > On Friday 14 August 2009, Daniel Hill wrote: > > Kent Fredric wrote: > > > For minimal pain, don't unmask the ~ ( testing ) versions of things > > > during stage 1. You'll find if you do you'll find a fun gcc cyclic > > > dependency :) ( t

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-13 Thread steve
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 16:49 +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: > Kent Fredric wrote: > > For minimal pain, don't unmask the ~ ( testing ) versions of things > > during stage 1. You'll find if you do you'll find a fun gcc cyclic > > dependency :) ( that is, don't set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS= to "~amd64" or > > "

Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-14 Thread Christopher Sawtell
Greets CLUGgers, 2009/8/14 Daniel Hill : > I'm about to acquire a old computer from my friend (AMD 1.6GHz 80GB HDD) > and want to eventually set it up as a webserver, game server, wireless > router and any other servers that I mite want to play with > I also want to learn linux properly (currently

Words Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-16 Thread Craig Falconer
steve wrote, On 14/08/09 18:18: With risk in mind, it's best to use software "certified"* for a specific os, and to do that most simply, it's best to stay in the mainline, which really is RH/CentOS 5.3 or debian lenny. *This is a very loose definition of the word, where package releases a

Re: Words Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server

2009-08-16 Thread Daniel Hill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig Falconer wrote: > steve wrote, On 14/08/09 18:18: >> With risk in mind, it's best to use software "certified"* for a >> specific >> os, and to do that most simply, it's best to stay in the mainline, >> which >> really is RH/CentOS 5.3 or debian l