Re: GCC: where to compile it

2003-02-27 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, stayler wrote: % On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:41:12 -0500, Kurt Wall wrote: % % % I've built GCC more times the last year than I care to count, and I have % yet to blow up my system compiler. % % Kurt, % % I am wodering, do you reference the new GCC during builds or do you %

[linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, well. My one and only Red Hat system is also my one and only Red Hat Network free subscription. RH just sent me an email stating that I have 7 days to fill out a survey to extend my demo account another 60 days. The implication in the email

Re: [linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread Net Llama!
My $deity, its horrifying that Redhat actually wants to make a profit! Such bastards. Sorry, but i don't see how this is a bad thing. Granted, i haven't seen the actual email in question, but i suspect that ftp://updates.redhat.com will remain freely accessible, and that anyone wanting automagic

Re: [linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread Dallam Wych
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:13:35AM -0500, Net Llama! wrote: My $deity, its horrifying that Redhat actually wants to make a profit! Such bastards. Sorry, but i don't see how this is a bad thing. Granted, i haven't seen the actual email in question, but i suspect that ftp://updates.redhat.com

[Fwd: XFree86 4.3.0 release tagged] (fwd)

2003-02-27 Thread Net Llama!
---BeginMessage--- I've tagged the XFree86 4.3.0 release. The tag is xf-4_3_0, and the branch tag associated with this release is xf-4_3-branch. This should all be visible from the anoncvs repository soon. This marks the closing of the 4.3.0 release, and I'd like to thank all who have

Updated Step

2003-02-27 Thread Nobody
Douglas Hunley has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/index2.html to incorporate the following: Updated to include Klaus\' idea about new info box ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: [linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread Lee
On Thursday 27 February 2003 10:13, Net Llama! wrote: My $deity, its horrifying that Redhat actually wants to make a profit! Such bastards. Sorry, but i don't see how this is a bad thing. Granted, i haven't seen the actual email in question, but i suspect that ftp://updates.redhat.com will

Re: [linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread Ken Moffat
Lee wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but Red Hat is open-source isn't it? I seem to recall that Caldera went down a similiar road and their apologists applauded them for wanting to make money so they could continue churning out open-source for a fee. Now the son of Caldera (SCO) wants to sue

Re: [linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread Net Llama!
On 02/27/03 17:12, Lee wrote: On Thursday 27 February 2003 10:13, Net Llama! wrote: My $deity, its horrifying that Redhat actually wants to make a profit! Such bastards. Sorry, but i don't see how this is a bad thing. Granted, i haven't seen the actual email in question, but i suspect that

Re: ADMIN: changes to the frontpage

2003-02-27 Thread Andrew Mathews
Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As you can see, the front page has a new look. Klaus came up with a wonderful idea, so we've implemented it. I think you'll all agree that the new front-end is cleaner and more informative. Kudos to Klaus! - -- Douglas J

OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread Tony Alfrey
Sorry about the off-topic question, but my wife will be grateful for possible help. My wife has a conventional 3 1/2 floppy that she formatted eons ago on an old Compaq computer. She says a) the old Compaq would read floppies formatted on an IBM PC. b) floppies formatted on her Compaq could not

Re: [linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread Andrew Mathews
Lee wrote: snip Correct me if I'm wrong but Red Hat is open-source isn't it? Yes, but that does NOT mean free. It means that they can do whatever they want, whether it's selling one copy a year at 1 million dollars, a million copies at one dollar, or giving it away. The only requirement is

Re: [linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Lee wrote: % On Thursday 27 February 2003 10:13, Net Llama! wrote: % My $deity, its horrifying that Redhat actually wants to make a profit! % Such bastards. % % Sorry, but i don't see how this is a bad thing. Granted, i haven't seen % the actual email in question, but i

Re: [linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread Collins
On Thursday 27 February 2003 08:13 am, Net Llama! wrote: My $deity, its horrifying that Redhat actually wants to make a profit! Such bastards. Sorry, but i don't see how this is a bad thing. Granted, i haven't seen the actual email in question, but i suspect that ftp://updates.redhat.com

Re: [linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread Joel Hammer
Remember, you don't have to use their services. If you find their services worth paying for, then pay for them. Nobody is making anybody buy their services, except of course MS. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Tony Alfrey wrote: % Sorry about the off-topic question, but my wife will be grateful for % possible help. % My wife has a conventional 3 1/2 floppy that she formatted eons ago on % an old Compaq computer. She says % a) the old Compaq would read floppies formatted on an IBM

Re: OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
They still do. They still have proprietary hardware (SCSI drives, etc.) and the brain dead concept of putting a bunch of the bios and stuff on disk so you can't get to it if the disk fails and it eats up a bunch of your disk space. Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, Tony Alfrey wrote: %

Re: OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread dep
begin Tony Alfrey's quote: | Sorry about the off-topic question, but my wife will be grateful | for possible help. | My wife has a conventional 3 1/2 floppy that she formatted eons | ago on an old Compaq computer. She says | a) the old Compaq would read floppies formatted on an IBM PC. | b)

Re: [linux-elitists] RedHat drops the other shoe

2003-02-27 Thread dep
begin Lee's quote: | Now the son of Caldera (SCO) | wants to sue everybody who uses linux. might you point to even the faintest evidence that any of the above accusation is even remotely true? -- dep http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within the envelope, and no animated

Re: OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Thursday 27 February 2003 06:57 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, Tony Alfrey wrote: snip Possibly. Can you dd the contents off the floppy into a file and then poke through the file looking for the data that you want? $ dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/some/darn/file Looked promising, but I got

Re: OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread Kurt Wall
Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: % They still do. They still have proprietary hardware (SCSI drives, etc.) % and the brain dead concept of putting a bunch of the bios and stuff on disk % so you can't get to it if the disk fails and it eats up a bunch of your % disk space. Bleah.

Re: OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread Net Llama!
On 02/27/03 19:33, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Thursday 27 February 2003 06:57 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, Tony Alfrey wrote: snip Possibly. Can you dd the contents off the floppy into a file and then poke through the file looking for the data that you want? $ dd if=/dev/fd0

Re: OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Yup and now they are part of HP the brain deadness will only increase! Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: % They still do. They still have proprietary hardware (SCSI drives, etc.) % and the brain dead concept of putting a bunch of the bios and stuff on disk % so

Re: OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Thursday 27 February 2003 07:06 pm, dep wrote: begin Tony Alfrey's quote: snip | My wife has a conventional 3 1/2 floppy that she formatted eons | ago on an old Compaq computer. She says | a) the old Compaq would read floppies formatted on an IBM PC. | b) floppies formatted on her

Re: OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Kurt or someone posted a note that used the 720 device in /dev. Tony Alfrey wrote: On Thursday 27 February 2003 07:06 pm, dep wrote: begin Tony Alfrey's quote: snip . . it says Sony High Density MFD-2HD. I have some old 720k macintosh disks that say MFD-2DD ( double density ). It

Moving to Sylpheed from PMMail

2003-02-27 Thread stayler
Well it seems the promised Linux version of PMMAil is pretty much a piece of Vaporware so I'm looking to transfer some of my old PMMail folders to Sylpheed. PMMail uses directories and a somewhat strange way of tagging msg's as individual files. I understand that Sylpheed is similar but the

Re: Moving to Sylpheed from PMMail

2003-02-27 Thread Federico Voges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 21:34:21 -0800 (PST), stayler wrote: Well it seems the promised Linux version of PMMAil is pretty much a piece of Vaporware so I'm looking to transfer some of my old PMMail folders to Sylpheed. I though that I was the only

Re: OT Compaq file system??

2003-02-27 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Thursday 27 February 2003 07:52 pm, Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, dep wrote: snip % % is it a 720k floppy? eons ago, those were the 3.5 floppies. Hey, there's a thought: dd if=/dev/fd0u720 of=/blah/blarg Kurt Geeze, you guys think of everything! But still the same results.