Quoth Ben Duncan:
> Normally, I would agree here, but I cannot see this client spending
> 25K USD just because thats what the local VAR for this particular
> software wants - and thats just the "COBOL" runtime and moving
> the applications over.
Yow. Not a bad deal. Doesn't the Kompany have a COB
Normally, I would agree here, but I cannot see this client spending
25K USD just because thats what the local VAR for this particular
software wants - and thats just the "COBOL" runtime and moving
the applications over.
Anyway, I say "Bring 'em on!!!". The solution here is, no less, a
COL 1.3 Open
Quoth Ben Duncan:
> Ok, having worked for a Telco for 3 years (Their Motto :
> All the Finest School our Techs can attend), I feel I can throw
> a little light on this as well.
[useful info snipped]
> Ok now on to the new thread:
>
> Need help on running SCO Binaries on LINUX on the latest kerne
Subject:
Re: DSL Gotcha
Keith Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:17:18 -0700 (PDT)
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Kurt Wall wrote:
Quoth Raymond Russell:
On 7/20/03 0:03, "Kurt Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't have DSL any more but when I did my installer us
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Kurt Wall wrote:
> Quoth Raymond Russell:
> > On 7/20/03 0:03, "Kurt Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I don't have DSL any more but when I did my installer used CAT-5 cable and
> > put RJ11 connectors on it, this helped a lot. I was far out from the CO so
> > I neede
Ok, having worked for a Telco for 3 years (Their Motto :
All the Finest School our Techs can attend), I feel I can throw
a little light on this as well.
Currently, yes there is a Limit, on the run from the CO (Dslam)
equipment, and as D.B pointed out, there are a LOT of other things
that go into th
David, you never cease to amaze me with your varied knowledge, since you seem
to have breadth and depth.
begin On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 17:57:06 -0500
"David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 17:53:06 -0700
> "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 07/19/03 17:43
On 7/20/03 23:11, "Shawn Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I absolutely agree. I wouldn't expect them to. But to use a false premise
> to justify a lie about their ability to give service to a customer is
> criminal in my book
>
> Shawn
DSL wont go over fiber it has to copper from en
On 7/20/03 17:29, "Kurt Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoth Raymond Russell:
>> On 7/20/03 0:03, "Kurt Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I don't have DSL any more but when I did my installer used CAT-5 cable and
>> put RJ11 connectors on it, this helped a lot. I was far out from the CO
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 21:20:59 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
professed:
> The distance is "measured" electronically over the circuit. While I
> agree then fiber part is bunk, they do have to have transitional
> equipment to change DSL from copper to fiber and back. DSL wasn't
> desig
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 18:54:13 -0700
Shawn Tayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
>
> When I was looking into wideband service at my present home QTH, I
> check into DSL first. I was told that since I was 17,957ft ( I looked
> up the old reply) from the central office, I was not eligable for DS
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 20:34:04 -0400 Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
professed:
> Quoth Shawn Tayler:
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> > I should've been more exact, the farcical portion I was refering
> > to was the "tariff" imposed wire limit that does not limit itself to
> > the length of the copper por
Quoth Shawn Tayler:
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 18:05:07 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> professed:
>
> > No, the distance thing isn't a farce. Trust me. Kinda like the 90
> > meters (300 feet) on ethernet. I've installed DSLAMs and DSLs. PITA,
> > but not farce. Besides, you don't want
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 18:05:07 -0500 "David A. Bandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> professed:
> No, the distance thing isn't a farce. Trust me. Kinda like the 90
> meters (300 feet) on ethernet. I've installed DSLAMs and DSLs. PITA,
> but not farce. Besides, you don't want to run servers on _Asymmetric
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 15:05:03 -0700
Shawn Tayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> One other point to the DSL Gotcha. This wire length from the CO is
> mythical. Used to really rip off us poor saps in the country. It
> includes any fiber thats inline. ATM on fiber really
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:32:46 -0400
Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[snip]
>
> I might add that I'm currently using (at least) a 25 foot phone cord
> for DSL at my wife's house. (now sold) Goes from one bedroom, through
> a closet, into another bedroom and around the wall... etc.
>
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 17:53:06 -0700
"Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 07/19/03 17:43, Kurt Wall wrote:
>
> > Hey, list,
> >
> > I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots
> > or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech
> > support later, and
One other point to the DSL Gotcha. This wire length from the CO is mythical. Used to
really
rip off us poor saps in the country. It includes any fiber thats inline. ATM on
fiber really
doesn't matter the distance. Its the transition to copper thats the killer on DSL.
I'm 17,8
Quoth Bruce Marshall:
>
> I might add that I'm currently using (at least) a 25 foot phone cord for
> DSL at my wife's house. (now sold) Goes from one bedroom, through a
> closet, into another bedroom and around the wall... etc.
>
> Has worked just fine from day 1 of DSL install. I would g
Quoth Raymond Russell:
> On 7/20/03 0:03, "Kurt Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't have DSL any more but when I did my installer used CAT-5 cable and
> put RJ11 connectors on it, this helped a lot. I was far out from the CO so
> I needed every little bit of help.
I'm 12,269 feet from t
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:32:46 -0400 - Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
the following
Re: Re: DSL Gotcha
Going back to my old support days.
Wiring used for telephones, when used for telephones works fine. When the same
wires are used for other purposes, including data transmission, s
On Sunday 20 July 2003 0:03 am, Kurt Wall wrote:
> Quoth Michael Hipp:
> > Kurt Wall wrote:
> > >Hey, list,
> > >
> > >I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots
> > >or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech
> > >support later, and it was fixed. Immed
On 7/20/03 0:03, "Kurt Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoth Michael Hipp:
>> Hey, list,
>>>
>>> I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots
>>> or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech
Kurt Wall wrote:
>>
>> support later, and it was fixed.
Quoth Michael Hipp:
> Kurt Wall wrote:
>
> >Hey, list,
> >
> >I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots
> >or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech
> >support later, and it was fixed. Immediately. The solution: make
> >the RJ11 cable from the wall j
Quoth Net Llama!:
> On 07/19/03 17:43, Kurt Wall wrote:
>
> >Hey, list,
> >
> >I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots
> >or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech
> >support later, and it was fixed. Immediately. The solution: make
> >the RJ11 cabl
Kurt Wall wrote:
Hey, list,
I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots
or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech
support later, and it was fixed. Immediately. The solution: make
the RJ11 cable from the wall jack to the modem as short as possible.
The
On 07/19/03 17:43, Kurt Wall wrote:
Hey, list,
I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots
or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech
support later, and it was fixed. Immediately. The solution: make
the RJ11 cable from the wall jack to the modem as sho
Hey, list,
I learned something interesting about DSL today. I was having lots
or intermittency problems with my DSL connection. A call to tech
support later, and it was fixed. Immediately. The solution: make
the RJ11 cable from the wall jack to the modem as short as possible.
The Ethernet cable ca
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