Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-14 Thread Myles Green
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:08:27PM +1100, James McDonald wrote: HTH HAND What does HAND mean? have a nice day -- Myles Green [EMAIL PROTECTED], Calgary, AB, Canada eh? Slackware-9.1 + CLI + Mutt-1.4.1i + Lynx|Links|eLinks With all that power, who needs a bloated GUI ?? Alberta Mirror

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-14 Thread James McDonald
Myles Green wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:08:27PM +1100, James McDonald wrote: HTH HAND What does HAND mean? have a nice day Thanks :) -- James McDonald Singleton Australia 61+ (0)2 65712401 61+ 0428 320 219 Laugh when you can; cry when you must. Linux 2.6.0-test9 #1 Fri Nov 7 22:06:28

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1 ot

2003-11-13 Thread Terence McCarthy
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:50:58 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the classic (unknown origin): The optimist believes that we live in the best of all possible worlds; the pessimist believes that this is true. Or my favorite: A man has two sons, an optimist and a pessimist.

RE: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1 ot

2003-11-13 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
And the classic (unknown origin): The optimist believes that we live in the best of all possible worlds; the pessimist believes that this is true. The saddest definition of a cynic I've come across (can't remember the derivation at the moment, sorry) is: A cynic is a frustrated

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-13 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 02:56 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 15:34 pm, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Has anyone done an update to an existing 8.2 system? Or will I be in a bad mood tomorrow evening? I don't do updates anymore... just new installs but no one over

RE: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-13 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA
How do the existing distros compare regarding upgrades of 1. the core system? 2. applications external to the core system? SuSE has an online update utility (through YAST) that will check for updates to any program you have installed and download and include them. It does dependency

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-13 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 13 November 2003 02:27 pm, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: How do the existing distros compare regarding upgrades of 1. the core system? 2. applications external to the core system? SuSE has an online update utility (through YAST) that will check for updates to any program you

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-13 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 22:09, Andrew L. Gould wrote: I think Gentoo and Debian can upgrade themselves without release cd's; but how much breakage occurs in the process? I have never had breakage in Gentoo. The incremental approach makes it better, I think. I do recall a problem with a glibc

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-13 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 21:03, Andrew L. Gould wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 02:56 pm, Bruce Marshall wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 15:34 pm, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Has anyone done an update to an existing 8.2 system? Or will I be in a bad mood tomorrow evening? I don't

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-13 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:43:37 +0100 Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 22:09, Andrew L. Gould wrote: I think Gentoo and Debian can upgrade themselves without release cd's; but how much breakage occurs in the process? I have never had breakage in Gentoo. The

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-13 Thread Myles Green
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:09:45PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote: To clarify: I'm wondering how the distributions compare as to upgrading from one release to the next, rather than updates to the current release. We've had one person state that SUSE's upgrade process hasn't worked well,

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-13 Thread James McDonald
HTH HAND What does HAND mean? -- James McDonald Systems Engineer Singleton NSW Australia ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://smtp.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-12 Thread Andrew L. Gould
I received the Update version SUSE 9.0 Professional yesterday and installed it last night. The first things I noted were: 1. No cool graphical representation of a math formula on the box or cover. (Aha! Already we see the corporate smothering of creativity!) 2. The DVD was bad. (Or do

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-12 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
Has anyone done an update to an existing 8.2 system? Or will I be in a bad mood tomorrow evening? -- Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-12 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 15:34 pm, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: Has anyone done an update to an existing 8.2 system? Or will I be in a bad mood tomorrow evening? I don't do updates anymore... just new installs but no one over on the SUSE list has had any real problems with an update. Most

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-12 Thread Terence McCarthy
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:42:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. No cool graphical representation of a math formula on the box or cover. (Aha! Already we see the corporate smothering of creativity!) Do we? 2. The DVD was bad. (Or do you need a special DVD reader for

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-12 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 03:03 pm, Terence McCarthy wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:42:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. No cool graphical representation of a math formula on the box or cover. (Aha! Already we see the corporate smothering of creativity!) Do we? I

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-12 Thread Terence McCarthy
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot the wink. (I hope I'm not **that** cynical.) :-) Remember Ambrose Beirce (The Devil's Dictionary) A cynic is a man whose faulty vision sees things as they are, and not as they ought to be. :-)) Terence

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1

2003-11-12 Thread Kurt Wall
Consuming 0.5K bytes, Terence McCarthy blathered: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot the wink. (I hope I'm not **that** cynical.) :-) Remember Ambrose Beirce (The Devil's Dictionary) A cynic is a man whose faulty vision sees things as

Re: SUSE Linux 9.0 Professional Update - night 1 ot

2003-11-12 Thread Collins Richey
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:44:47 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consuming 0.5K bytes, Terence McCarthy blathered: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:12:39 -0600 Andrew L. Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot the wink. (I hope I'm not **that** cynical.) :-) Remember Ambrose Beirce