Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-31 Thread Matthew Carpenter
RH still doesn't like KDE either... RH80 is an attempt to make Gnome look as good as KDE (o I'm gonna get in trouble for that one :) in an attempt to unify everyone to use Gnome. :( Otherwise they wouldn't have made most of the default apps Gnome apps, even for KDE users. begin Net

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-27 Thread Ted Ozolins
Keith Antoine wrote: I have for years used, that which we used to use in the labs, which is pharmaceutical alcohol. Keith Antoine I rebuild a lot of Tech, Phillips etc scopes and other test equipmemt for a living. I couldn't agrre with you more Keith, for alcohol is the only cleaning

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-26 Thread Keith Antoine
At 03:59 PM 25/12/2002 -0800, you wrote: On 12/25/02 15:41, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: My understanding that using the pencil eraser was done to clean the contacts, not give it extra conductivity. We used the eraser on boards that were exposed to chemicals that created Silver sulfide deposits

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-25 Thread Pam R
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 22:35, Net Llama! wrote: On 12/24/02 08:56, Jerry McBride wrote: [snip] Turn off box, remove cover, unplug video card, run pencil eraser across card I hope you don't mean the eraser. That's the best way to completely wreck all the sockets. Its the graphite in

SOLVED! Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-25 Thread Tim Wunder
On Wednesday 25 December 2002 02:40 am, someone claiming to be Pam R wrote: On Wednesday 25 December 2002 04:20, Tim Wunder wrote: On Tuesday 24 December 2002 05:36 pm, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: Maybe its the mobo? It's on the list of potential culprits. We'll see...

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-25 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/25/02 00:13, Pam R wrote: On Tuesday 24 December 2002 22:35, Net Llama! wrote: On 12/24/02 08:56, Jerry McBride wrote: [snip] Turn off box, remove cover, unplug video card, run pencil eraser across card I hope you don't mean the eraser. That's the best way to completely wreck all the

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-25 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
My understanding that using the pencil eraser was done to clean the contacts, not give it extra conductivity. We used the eraser on boards that were exposed to chemicals that created Silver sulfide deposits blackening the contacts. from Net Llama!: [8-] Graphite is an insulator, not

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-25 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/25/02 15:41, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: My understanding that using the pencil eraser was done to clean the contacts, not give it extra conductivity. We used the eraser on boards that were exposed to chemicals that created Silver sulfide deposits blackening the contacts. from Net Llama!:

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-25 Thread ronnie gauthier
If you need to use an eraser a soft artgum has no abrasive. On Wed,25 Dec 2002 15:59:44 -0800 - Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability On 12/25/02 15:41, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: My understanding that using the pencil eraser was done

Re: SOLVED! Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-25 Thread m.w.chang
or you may just buy a better heatsink. heat is alwaya a problem of AMD CPU, in additional to stability problem with VIA chipsets. Running with a new Duron 1GHz and I'm (so far) stable as can be. Granted, I've only been testing it for a couple hours, but the XFree86-4.2.1 SRPMs built fine. I

Re: SOLVED! Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-25 Thread Tim Wunder
Yeah, already did that. Got a nice big copper Thermaltake Volcano 6cu with a 7000 RPM fan :-) On Wednesday 25 December 2002 10:15 pm, someone claiming to be m.w.chang wrote: or you may just buy a better heatsink. heat is alwaya a problem of AMD CPU, in additional to stability problem with VIA

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread Tim Wunder
On Monday 23 December 2002 10:42 pm, someone claiming to be Marvin Dickens wrote: On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 13:05, Tim Wunder wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? I've been experiencing a significant amount of system instabilty (X crashing, Go purchase a

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:36:00 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 23 December 2002 10:42 pm, someone claiming to be Marvin Dickens wrote: On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 13:05, Tim Wunder wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? I've been

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread Tim Wunder
On 12/24/2002 11:56 AM, someone claiming to be Jerry McBride wrote: snip nonsensical blabber Go get beer... Excellent advice! ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread Ted Ozolins
Jerry McBride wrote: I still have problems. I've also got the feeling that my video card may be going bonkers on me. When I switch to a console (Ctrl-Alt-F1), I'm now getting white spots on a portion of my screen. I also get ghosts when dragging icons around the desktop. Turn off box,

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread Tim Wunder
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 03:05 pm, someone claiming to be Ted Ozolins wrote: Jerry McBride wrote: I still have problems. I've also got the feeling that my video card may be going bonkers on me. When I switch to a console (Ctrl-Alt-F1), I'm now getting white spots on a portion of my

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/24/02 13:01, Tim Wunder wrote: I *still* have problems with large compiles breaking (particularly rebuilding Xfree86 from SRPM). I'm currently suspecting either heat, or CPU. I got a 1G Duron processor this morning and a nice Thermaltake CPU fan/heatsink with a 7000 RPM fan. Sometime in

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/24/02 08:56, Jerry McBride wrote: On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:36:00 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 23 December 2002 10:42 pm, someone claiming to be Marvin Dickens wrote: On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 13:05, Tim Wunder wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread ronnie gauthier
Interesting. I never thought to use it on a card. I do know that writing across the laser cut on durons allow you to overclock just the chip and not everything else also. Turn off box, remove cover, unplug video card, run pencil eraser across card I hope you don't mean the eraser. That's the

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:08:45 -0600 ronnie gauthier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. I never thought to use it on a card. I do know that writing across the laser cut on durons allow you to overclock just the chip and not everything else also. You can use a real sharp #2 pencil on your

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread Tim Wunder
On Tuesday 24 December 2002 05:36 pm, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On 12/24/02 13:01, Tim Wunder wrote: I *still* have problems with large compiles breaking (particularly rebuilding Xfree86 from SRPM). I'm currently suspecting either heat, or CPU. I got a 1G Duron processor this

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-24 Thread Pam R
On Wednesday 25 December 2002 04:20, Tim Wunder wrote: On Tuesday 24 December 2002 05:36 pm, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: Maybe its the mobo? It's on the list of potential culprits. We'll see... So far, I've managed to get 512MB additional RAM, a new processor and video card.

Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Tim Wunder
Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? I've been experiencing a significant amount of system instabilty (X crashing, SRPM rebuilds failing with internal compiler errors, running kmix locking the system) and was leaning toward bad RAM being the culprit. But as I've been

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Net Llama!
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? I've been experiencing a significant amount of system instabilty (X crashing, SRPM rebuilds failing with internal compiler errors, running kmix locking the system) and was leaning toward bad RAM

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Pam R
On Monday 23 December 2002 21:05, Tim Wunder wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? I've been experiencing a significant amount of system instabilty (X crashing, SRPM rebuilds failing with internal compiler errors, running kmix locking the system) and was leaning

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Tim Wunder
On 12/23/2002 4:24 PM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? I've been experiencing a significant amount of system instabilty (X crashing, SRPM rebuilds failing with internal compiler errors,

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Jerry McBride
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:05:50 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? Just about everything I touch has via chipssets in them... No problems to report. I've been experiencing a significant amount of system instability. From what

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Net Llama!
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Jerry McBride wrote: I'm currently running RH8's stock Athlon kernel, but would be willing to compile a new kernel if that would help fix things. Please don't flame me, but I've no respect for RedHat. Go compile your own, you'll do a better job of it. That said, is

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Net Llama!
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: On 12/23/2002 4:24 PM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? I've been experiencing a significant amount of system instabilty (X crashing, SRPM

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Tim Wunder
On 12/23/2002 4:40 PM, someone claiming to be Jerry McBride wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:05:50 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? Just about everything I touch has via chipssets in them... No problems to report. Good to

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Aaron Grewell
I've got a couple of Asus KT133-based boards (running RH8 no less) and it seems to run fine. Are you using the latest kernel RPM? I had issues with the shipped kernel that the update solved, though they weren't on my KT133's. One was even OC'd for a year or so before sudden stability problems

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Ted Ozolins
Net Llama! wrote: Seemingly random, although going to http://www.backbayguide.com/newwine.htm in Mozilla seems to crash X fairly regularly. It crashed X?? That is creepy. Anyway, if you've got a Knoppix CD, you could always see if the behavior is reproducable there. THat should help to

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Tim Wunder
On Monday 23 December 2002 05:08 pm, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: On 12/23/2002 4:24 PM, someone claiming to be Net Llama! wrote: On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Tim Wunder wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? I've

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Tim Wunder
Well, my PC is both a workstation ad a server. I'll probly change that soon. I like to experiment, and experimenting on my webserver/mailserver, even if it's for personal/home use, is problematic :-( On Monday 23 December 2002 05:18 pm, someone claiming to be Aaron Grewell wrote: I've got a

X-Chat crashing X (was Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability)

2002-12-23 Thread Tim Wunder
On Monday 23 December 2002 09:52 pm, someone claiming to be Tim Wunder wrote: snip Commenting out FontPath /usr/share/AbiSuite/fonts in /etc/X11/XF86Config Seems to solve this problem. I don't know why. BTW, I ran a memory test, updated the BIOS and now, when I start X-Chat, X crashes.

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Marvin Dickens
On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 13:05, Tim Wunder wrote: Anyone running an AMD-based board with a Via KT133 chipset? I've been experiencing a significant amount of system instabilty (X crashing, Go purchase a big, copper (Read: Not aluminum Copper is approximately 40% more efficient than

Re: Via chipset KT133 and system instability

2002-12-23 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/23/02 19:42, Richard Ebling wrote: I'm running an Duron 700 on one, and it has been weird to boot up for awhile--about half the time it'll just hang on boot. My clue is that if the POST beep sounds before the floppy seek, it'll start up. If not, it hangs in limbo forever. Opening the