On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, beneo wrote:
> Does filo support ext3 file system? the intruduction say it supports ext2,
> but didn't say anything about ext3. If it doesn't support ext3, does it mean
> I have to re-install Linux to ext2?
IIRC read-only ext3 can almost always be read by ext2 file system c
I strongly recommend filo for people trying to boot off ide. It just plain
works for me and etherboot, though it is wonderful, has not been as
reliable.
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what version of python do you have on your machine? what distro is this?
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tyan right now does a great job of supporting linuxbios, I would look at
their opteron mobos.
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Seb James wrote:
> Great. Would LILO also function as a payload for LinuxBIOS?
no. LILO makes bios calls. Sorry :-(
Use FILO!
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, William J Beksi wrote:
> I have the source files (cpu setup, southbridge, northbridge) for the NSC
> Geode GX1/GX2 orginally written by Christer Weinigel. I'm not sure, but it may
> have been in the Linuxbios cvs a long time ago?
it's been in v1 for years.
>
> I have it
lots of people are interested in this, I'm trying to find out who to talk
to at amd.
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Huang-Jen Wang wrote:
> my phthon version is 2.2.2, and my linux is Red Hat 9.0
hmm. Can you try something a little more modern?
I don't understand the error you are seeing.
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005, Tobias Erichsen wrote:
> Has there been any success to get any of those going
> with LinuxBIOS?
no, as Intel does not want it to happen. They are determined to ensure
that no future Intel hardware can run linuxbios. They have stated as much
to me directly. I am hoping thi
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Huang-Jen Wang wrote:
> Hi All,
> I tried to build a linuxbios for Arima Hdama, but the rom can't work
> I use a debug card , and it shows post code "fe"
> what dose it mean?
that's I thought the last code before jumping to payload.
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, YhLu wrote:
> in the wiki, you said
> "At LANL, we are building a new 'no moving parts' 16-node cluster to
> demonstrate this capability."
>
> only linuxbios + bproc there?
>
> what's MB?
probably amd sc520 based
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> My goal is to see the whole boot process on display.
you mean linuxbios messages too?
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
> * Ronald G. Minnich [050329 23:32]:
> >
> >
> >
> > just a note, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] from here on out. I will
>
> linuxbios@openbios.o
just a note, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] from here on out. I will
give this transition a few more days. Please fix your address books!
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Dave Mills wrote:
> Chipset Intel 430TX
try the digitallogic/ p5 target in freebios 1.
same north.
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, William J Beksi wrote:
> Has anyone ported or working on porting the National Semicondutor sc1100 cpu?
is that an x86? intel has an 1100 too ... it's an ARM.
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:
> think I would still make v1 people ask so we can tell them not to use
> v1.
ah, good point. Hey richard, previous letter, question is:
Q. Should I use V1?
A. Your previous letter
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 05:54:17 + (GMT), Ramesh Chhaba
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes Sir ,
> > u was right that I was missing that payload = line in configuration :)
> > So I have aded that line
> > and also enabled STD_FLASH
> > and E
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Markus Wolters wrote:
> I have compiled and build freebios and everything went ok. The romimage is
> at /usr/src/freebios/build.
>
> My mainboard is a K7SEM. When I do flash_rom, this error message appears :
> 2f is 0xfd
>
> EEPROM not found
What type of flash part is it
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Just how hard is it to render these things unreadable, or even
> unusable by normal methods?
sometimes I've had them just die on me. I wonder if that's what happened
to you.
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what platform is this?
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Tyson Sawyer wrote:
> Do we need to move ourselves over or will the existing list of subscribers be
> moved?
gets moved automagically, (i.e. stefan) but you should be getting dup mail
emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I hope nobody minds the spam but os hacker jobs can be hard to find, as
opposed to java web applet hackers.
If you go to the LANL job site, and look at job #209754, that is to work
for me on OS stuff. Go ahead and apply if interested.
US citizenship is best.
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Thomas Wehrspann wrote:
> You need a DiskOnChip Millenium (no 2000). Those were only available with 8MB
> and aren't produced anymore.
ONLY if you're going to use DoC-only with no bios flash.
If you're going to use DoC in addition to bios flash, any DoC will do, I
think
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Darren Lissimore wrote:
> 1)Has anyone tried a 2.6.10 kernel DiskOnChip style system before?
no, but I can see now reason it would not work. There was nothing specical
about DoC save that the drivers could be hard to find.
Are you using DoC in addition to BIOS flas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the new mailing list. I will shut the old one
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:
> Is there any interest in adding
> this to the linuxBIOS wiki?
yes, this is a great start at a common glossary.
Wonderful! thanks!
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Done. "How do I identify the BIOS chip on my mainboard?"
ah, I love the wiki.
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Josiah England wrote:
> As Ron said, there are no such settings. How do I set them in
> compatibility mode?
Josiah, let's you, me, and Ollie sit down tomorrow and walk this code. I
think it will be pretty easy.
thanks
> That problem has reared up a few times. Quite odd
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Not to be a pain, but to clarify, that's a PLCC package. QFP looks
> like this:
Thank you. I have been getting that wrong since the package was invented.
Sorry.
Anyone who wants to put this in the FAQ, be my guest :-)
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Dave, this is *exactly* what I'm looking for. Thanks!
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I'd still like to find an elan board that:
- has removable flash part
- flash part is the standard QFP, not DIP.
- has a working bios.
This combination seems to be really hard to find!
Any pointers?
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 1st, what settings do you have in the Config.lb for enabling the IDE
> controllers
> - they should be in compatibility mode (I think).
yes, and they are not. I did notice that.
> 2nd, I'm curious to know how stable your raminit appears to be, I'v
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, yhlu wrote:
> if remove FreeBSD's dependence on BIOS calls. can we move pci bus
> routine from Linux Kernel to them?
>
> Is any license problem with that?
yes.
But I think freebsd would work fine without bios calls, when I looked it
was "informational" calls they made su
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:
> So what do you guys think I should do? Do you agree
> with my assessment above? The easiest thing to do
> would be to add a linux kernel boot parameter that'll
> allow LinuxBIOS to tell filo to tell the kernel
> exactly where in sdram the uncompressed PIR
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
> How does closing the tree work? We can also tag it and leave it sitting
> there with a notice that it is obsolete.
I am not sure how to close it. Possibly remove all developers this
weekend.
And, no commits post-midnight of this sunday.
Somethin
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:
> You should. What did you do with my XMS system I sent you long ago?
oh, I still have it.
ok, I'll try to bring it out and revive it.
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> why does the Linux kernel use bitkeeper?
because it is really really good. Xen uses it too.
IBM uses it extensively and they were trying to convince us to use it for
linuxbios.
But Larry's 'rules of engagement' for free use of the software are not
aceept
we need a 'controlled shutdown' of the cvs project so we can do a clean
cut over to tla.
Can we pick a day and time? midnight this saturday or some such? Do we all
trust tla enough to go for it?
What stepan could do is an import, and at the same time we shut down
commits to the cvs.
Sound
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, yhlu wrote:
> Can we put the server in US instead of EU?
I'm afraid to ask this question, but why does it matter? EU patent issues?
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:
> Its a total rewrite.
oh yeah, I've made *that* mistake a lot of times :-)
"I think I'll just clean this structure up a bit ... it's just an smbus
controller ... how hard can it be?"
PC hardware. blech.
I don't have any 440 stuff left.
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Stefan Reinauer wrote:
> We could either use pqm or add ssh keys for each commiter. How many are
> there currently?
I think maybe 8 or so active.
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On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> The next piece to investigate is how we plan on publishing and
> committing changes. The bread and butter of a version control system.
> Ron are you far enough along in playing with arch that you are ready for
> that piece of the conversation?
n
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:
> Yep. not to bad. I've got the beginnings of the port already done. I
> got hung up on getting my dump_spd routine to return somthing else
> besides zero. Its really wierd. I can actually see the data on the
> SMbus happening but I don't ever seem to
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Dmitriy Budko wrote:
> So, you don't need it for "production" systems, only for development,
> do you?
I would say so.
> How difficult is it to port Intel 440BX chipset support from
> V1 to V2?
easy. Been done. Ask Richard Smith.
> It seems to me that supporting a new S
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Dmitriy Budko wrote:
> Does anybody needs LinuxBIOS for VMware virtual machines?
> If you want it please describe why do you want it.
it would sure make it easier to do full-up sims of linuxbios-equipped
systems.
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On Mon, 7 Mar 2005, Jeff Stevens wrote:
> I'm sorry, I was wrong. The AMD Quartet doesn't seem
> to compile either. I get the same error!
sigh, things are growing bigger.
anybody want to fix this one?
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I was talking to ASUS at one point but the conversation faltered. I can
try again. Pick a mobo you really want to see it done for.
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On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Ronald G. Minnich wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:
>
> > Ok, so I tried this specific sequence and it failed.
> >
> > making region read/write
>
> nope. you need to make it write-only,
arg, I'm not thinki
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Markus Wolters wrote:
> Is it possible to use a 2.6 kernel?
yes
> Is it possible to use the original bios chip?
DON'T DO THAT. if you don't have a backup chip, don't try it.
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Ron does this sound like something you would be willing to look at?
by all means!
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:
> Ok, so I tried this specific sequence and it failed.
>
> making region read/write
nope. you need to make it write-only,
> Verifing priq routing tables copy at 0xf...failed,
then copy
The make it read-write.
> Could it be that f is mapped
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, YhLu wrote:
> Anyone tried LinuxBIOS with freeBSD?
>
I talked to freebsd guys about it. Freebsd makes BIOS calls, so that would
need to be fixed.
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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:
> --
> I2C - Inter-Integrated-Circuit, a bidirectional 2-wire bus for efficient
> inter-IC control. See 'http://www.esacademy.com/faq/i2c/index.htm' for more
> info.
this is fine.
> And as someone else mentioned
for shadow ram, you need to enable writes to go to ram. Later on, when you
are done with a region, you need to enable reads.
So the way you do this: figure out which one is for 0xf. Enable writes
(2). At the end of the process, you need to set (3) for the area.
And, somebody will have t
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, yhlu wrote:
> Why not try Etherboot at first? That would be easier.
we've never found it to be easier, but that is a point of disagreement
between several places :-)
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> I'm using FILO with nVidia reference board with a CK804. I've got
> LinuxBIOS to load FILO and FILO sees the IDE controller but not the
> drive. I thought FILO was device independent, but could the IDE
> controllers on the CK804 require FILO chan
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:
> Thats a good idea. What about adding a "description" section where
> this info is filled out. Then the config tool would generate some
> sort of text file in the target directory describing all the options
> that are set.
Makefile.settings
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On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Justin C. Darby wrote:
> If someone can point me in the right direction (in the source, I'd guess) to
> find all of the configuration options without descriptions I can setup a page
> dedicated to explaining them one at a time.
>
src/config/Options.lb
What's nice is the
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Justin C. Darby wrote:
> I seem to remember LinuxBIOS having a few PC-Chips motherboards supported, but
> there is currently no mention of it on the page.
>
> Is this not in v2?
It is not in v2.
> Are any of the supported PC-Chips motherboards still in production or
> use
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:
> Ok, thanks again for educating me!
so, peter, you want to accumulate the Glossary for us :-)
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On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ramesh Chhaba wrote:
> Hi All ,
>
> I was just trying to make a linuxBIOS for epic.
> at last step it gives error .
>
> ././buildrom linuxbios.strip linuxbios.rom
> ../../../../../lnxieepro100.ebi 0x1 0x2
> ../../../../../lnxieepro100.ebi: No such file or
> director
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have written back asking for permission to disclose the contents
> without NDA. I have pointed out the benefits they are going to derive.
> Let's see how it goes. I have a feeling that they may allow disclosure
> without NDA.
another option is t
you should try to get shadow ram working.
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:
> Strike that. The issue is somewhere with
> copy_pirq_routing_table. IE: why does the copy to
> f fail. I had assumed that the 500 address was an
> alternate location that the table was copied to. So
> now, I'm looking at that f000 failure.
the copy
Yes, Justin Darby did a GREAT job of fixing up the FAQ, btw.
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:
> ---
> Checking IRQ routing tables...
> /bios/freebios/src/arch/i386/lib/pirq_routing.c:
> 30:check_pirq_routing_table() - irq_routing_table
> located at: 0x8740
> done.
> Copying IRQ routing tables to 0xf...done.
> Verifing priq routing tables
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Bari Ari wrote:
> What's the status on getting an account & password? Who do you have to know?
>
> -Bari
me or stepan. You want one bari?
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it!
Thanks to all of you who have contributed today. It's just fantastic!
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Li-Ta Lo wrote:
> even the copyright is assigned to USENIX.org?
yes, AFAIK you can still post it. I post all my usenix pappers.
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Li-Ta Lo wrote:
> Do I have to right to distribute my FREENIX '05 paper? If I can,
> should I put it on the wiki?
yes.
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Li-Ta Lo wrote:
> Probably we should seriously consider writing the "Users Manual" and
> "Programmer's Manual" as I mentioned before?
yes, it has to be done.
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is for v1.
The EPIA one is good for V2.
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Alan Mimms wrote:
> So would someone who DOES have an account please edit the login page to
> put a mailto link there to allow users to at least know that the UI on
> that page isn't as described in the error you get when you try to create
> an account the way the page says t
I have started to bring over content to the wiki. Those who have logins --
you can see my formatting is not that great in the FAQ, fixers welcome.
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Richard Smith wrote:
> I've found that Linux up to 2.6.9 (I haven't tested .10) Dosen't do
> this fully. With my 440bx chipset there are config registers in the
> northbridge that control which IRQ line each of the PCI PIRQ lines are
> routed to. Even with a proper PIRQ ta
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:
> To get more people interested in linuxbios one has to lower the bars, and
> technical jargon is a major blocker (at least for me). And yes, I do know what
> i2c is, and I think I know what spd is (ram speed?) but vid & did does not
> ring a bell. For a
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, ramesh bios wrote:
> Would I be able to test if Linux 2.6.10 is able to
> parse the normal BIOS' PIRQ table by booting linux
> with acpi=off?
no, the problem is that the BIOSes we have seen in some cases just assign
a bunch of IRQs, and ignore their own tables. Hence, the
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:
> My current understanding of how linuxbios works is very limited but, is there
> an absolute requirement that this should occur over a serial port?
no. recall this is a just a hack to figure out what the bios is doing, not
some permanent thing.
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> Andreas, which version of LB where you looking at ? People still seem to
> be getting on ok with V1 and the HOW-TO I wrote some time ago. Which
> version of the EPIA are you using, is it the original EPIA or one of the
> other version (ie EPIA-M, EPI
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, ramesh bios wrote:
> That's odd. My understanding might be lacking.
>
> I think the PIRQ table parser in 2.6.10 seems to work
> because it works when I use the normal BIOS.
no, it's messy. Some bioses set IRQ settings that don't agree with their
own PIRQ tables. I've se
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Karlsson wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Peter Stuge wrote:
>
> > There are probably more sections that would be useful too.
>
> Technical jargon? I'm still a bit confused about what payload is and there's
> probably quite a few words/acronyms that are being used but it'
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, ramesh bios wrote:
> I used Linux 2.6.10. I'm reading through the list
> archive now for any related kernel issues.
>From 2.4.19 on, the IRQ parser for PIRQ tables for geodes is broken.
That could be part of the problem.
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The names (type nos) of motherboards are very region dependent and
> boards with same parts will have different nos depending on the region
> and manufacturer. Why not add the chipset partnums to the motherboard
> info on the Supported motherboard pa
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So where to start.
build a really simple payload with romcc that just drives the uart to say
hello, world. That's the start.
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> PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device
> :00:0b.0.
what kernel?
It matters.
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Alan Mimms wrote:
> One problem tho: no form for creating usernames. Was this intentional?
yes. Creating users who can edit the pages is going to pass through sysops
so we don't have people randomly dropping in and trashing the pages. Plan
9 wiki had a terrible time with
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Alan Mimms wrote:
> Woo. Very nice. Thanks to all - maybe we can create some nice content
> for this cool new container! I will do what I can when I have some
> content to share.
Yh Lu did a great job of adding content to day.
I am hoping to get guys like Eric and Rich
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Andreas Thienemann wrote:
> [new website]
> > volunteers?
> Well, I would volunteer to a) create the new webpage and b) set it up with
> some kind of CMS so that someone else can fill it with content.
OK, guys, we've got a new web site for linuxbios, courtesy Stefan.
Check
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
> I think a two computer solution might be easier. If one can get early
> serial on the target machine, then a small romcc program could read
> commands from the serial port, execute them, and transmit back the
> results. (I think I even saw an email
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Josh England wrote:
> The offer still stands to host SVN for the freebios trees as well as
> host linuxbios.org, plan9.net, etcI think the server is close to
> being ready. We'll have to figure out how to best transfer the CVS
> history over to SVN -- I've heard the too
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Jamie Rollins wrote:
> I agree very strongly on this point. If linuxbios is going to move
> forward, it's public face needs to be very well presented, which at the
> moment, it is not. The linuxbios.org web site is very out of date.
> The page desperately needs a documen
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Ronald G. Minnich wrote:
> has picked it up. Since one of the maintainers is not at Cray, it has been
now
sorry.
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Alan Mimms wrote:
> I think it would be MOST helpful if the linuxbios web site reflected
> true and accurate recent information. It appears to be very out of date
> and doesn't even say how to get to freebios2 IIRC. If I knew more of
> what WAS true and correct, I would of
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Adam Sulmicki wrote:
> it is one of my regrets that I never finished that ram initalization
> project on that Thankpad T23 back at UMD.
well, adam, show Justin the URL for that work and the hardware mod you
have to make for development on t23.
ron
if you see errors let me know (I did not write this but they will take
input). I know the comment about linuxbios being stripped-down linux is
not quite right; anything else?
Nevertheless it is really great to see the FSF weigh in on this issue.
If your company is a supporter of linuxbios, or o
I like your idea, but linuxbios and thinkpads are hopeless. Sorry.
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Adam Talbot wrote:
> Well, its a step in the right direction, I updated the configs and started
> the compile... ERROR!!
> Any ideas on this one. Am I missing something in my configs?
this may be obsolete code, compare against the amd southbridge code.
sorry.
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