Re: [IFWP] A rant to far: from an ex-interniccer

2000-04-12 Thread Karl Auerbach
For the historians: Do people realize that it wasn't even in the budget to have the 14 of us handling in-addrs, ip allocation/assignment, SWIP, all of the domain name issues and answer the phones in early 1995? The whole registration process/budget was not designed for vanity-tagging the

[IFWP] Re: Interpol issue

2000-04-12 Thread Greg Skinner
Richard, I have not seen any comments from you in any of the DNSO archives, even the public comment areas, at least in the past few months. I don't see how you are going to have any kind of input into the process if you don't participate. --gregbo

Re: [IFWP] Re: Interpol issue

2000-04-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 11:54 AM 4/12/00 -0700, you wrote: Richard, I have not seen any comments from you in any of the DNSO archives, even the public comment areas, at least in the past few months. I don't see how you are going to have any kind of input into the process if you don't participate. I participated in

[IFWP] DNSO participation (Was: Re: Interpol issue)

2000-04-12 Thread Greg Skinner
Richard, how do you explain the participation of people like Chris Ambler, Simon Higgs, etc? (Subject to their opinions of what should happen with new TLDs) it seems they have at least as much of a clue as anyone else in wg-c. --gregbo

Re: [IFWP] DNSO participation (Was: Re: Interpol issue)

2000-04-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 02:17 PM 4/12/00 -0700, you wrote: Richard, how do you explain the participation of people like Chris Ambler, Simon Higgs, etc? (Subject to their opinions of what should happen with new TLDs) it seems they have at least as much of a clue as anyone else in wg-c. You're asking me to explain

Re: [IFWP] DNSO participation (Was: Re: Interpol issue)

2000-04-12 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
Greg: Richard has made it very clear to you that he will not participate in this farce called the DNSO. The DNSO voice is in desparate need of voices to rationalize thier farce - and Richard has no intention of lending his name or support to the DNSO farce Now - why am I denied participation

Re: [IFWP] DNSO participation (Was: Re: Interpol issue)

2000-04-12 Thread Greg Skinner
Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: Explain the reasons and could I know what your relationship to the WG-C is. I have no relationship to wg-c except as a reader of the archives (and occasional poster to the public archives). I read quite a bit of what you wrote and what others' reactions were to what

Re: [IFWP] DNSO participation (Was: Re: Interpol issue)

2000-04-12 Thread Greg Skinner
Richard J. Sexton wrote: But isn't there a Vint Cerf RFC that says "The Internet Is For Everybody!" ? Nobody took Dr. Joe Baptista off the Internet.

Re: [IFWP] DNSO participation (Was: Re: Interpol issue)

2000-04-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 03:21 PM 4/12/00 -0700, you wrote: Richard J. Sexton wrote: But isn't there a Vint Cerf RFC that says "The Internet Is For Everybody!" ? Nobody took Dr. Joe Baptista off the Internet. Right. Paul Vixie made him unroutable and the 80K a reay listadmin of the dnso list blocks him. But he's

Re: [IFWP] DNSO participation (Was: Re: Interpol issue)

2000-04-12 Thread Greg Skinner
Richard J. Sexton wrote: Right. Paul Vixie made him unroutable I am able to reach pccf.net from three different sites. Whatever Vixie did doesn't affect the entire Internet. and the 80K a reay listadmin of the dnso list blocks him. But he's still on the Internet. That he is able to

Re: [IFWP] DNSO participation (Was: Re: Interpol issue)

2000-04-12 Thread Greg Skinner
Richard J. Sexton wrote: and the 80K a reay listadmin of the dnso list blocks him. But he's still on the Internet. He can still post to the ga-full list.

Re: [IFWP] DNSO participation (Was: Re: Interpol issue)

2000-04-12 Thread Joe Baptista
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Greg Skinner wrote: Richard J. Sexton wrote: and the 80K a reay listadmin of the dnso list blocks him. But he's still on the Internet. He can still post to the ga-full list. But banned for life from the GA-Rules. A dead list - but non the less it's the

Re: [IFWP] DNSO participation (Was: Re: Interpol issue)

2000-04-12 Thread Greg Skinner
Joe Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But banned for life from the GA-Rules. A dead list - but non the less it's the principle that counts. What principle might that be? Subscription to ga or ga-full is voluntary. Those that choose to read the full feed may. Both lists are archived.

Re: [IFWP] A rant to far: from an ex-interniccer

2000-04-12 Thread Ellen Rony
Just to keep the record straight, it was Amendment 4 (September 13, 1995), not Amendment 11, that changed the Cooperative Agreement from cost + fixed fee to a structure that allowed the collection of fees from registrants. Amendment 11 (October 7, 1998) extended the Cooperative Agreement through

Re: [IFWP] A rant to far: from an ex-interniccer

2000-04-12 Thread Gordon Cook
It has always been surprising to me that General Atomics and ATT, who were part of the initial InterNIC, received no flack for notholding up their portion of the Cooperative Agreement. Maybe ATT did some work but their Annual Report of, I believe 1996 didn't even mention that role. Ellen

Re: [IFWP] A rant to far: from an ex-interniccer

2000-04-12 Thread Ellen Rony
I meant industry flak; flak like we all have given NSI. I understood that GA didn't uphold it's end of the Agreement went quietly into the good night rarely to be spoken of again. At least NSI stayed the course. It has always been surprising to me that General Atomics and ATT, who were part

[IFWP] let us pause and pray for elian

2000-04-12 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
http://www.elian.cu/

[IFWP] Re: Opinion from China regarding new gTLD. (fwd)

2000-04-12 Thread Joe Baptista
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:17:59 -0400 (EDT) From: !Dr. Joe Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: YJ Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opinion from China regarding new gTLD. On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, YJ Park wrote: 2, The NEW gTLDs will