Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-11 Thread Michael Sondow
Kent Crispin wrote: ... Well, it really doesn't matter what he wrote. The point is, he's back, and that means no possibility of any useful discussion on this list. So, good-bye and good luck to you all. M.S.

Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-11 Thread Einar Stefferud
Of course we cannot and will not ignore ICANN.,. After all, out plan is to copy the ICANN ROOT, and augment it into being our superior Inclusive Root, to be offered as a solid well managed ROOT service to ISP's that want and need such a service. We should also offer it to the ccTLD operators

Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-11 Thread Einar Stefferud
Well, we run some danger of you going to ICANN meetings and spilling our beans;-)... So, you will find some hostility here to people who insist on participating in both. We a re not going to try to kill ICANN, but we also do not want to put our head in the ICANN guillotine for no good

Re: [IFWP] The emperor is still naked

2001-09-11 Thread Einar Stefferud
Right on Patrick;-)... And a strategy of first making an egg is not likely to work out. First we need the chicken, and it will give us some eggs. If we also have a rooster;-)...\Stef At 19:19 -0700 10/09/01, Patrick Greenwell wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Ellen Rony wrote: If there were

Re: [IFWP] Introduction

2001-09-11 Thread Jim Dixon
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Joanna Lane wrote: Thank you Ellen, Nice to meet you. Joanna on 9/10/01 10:16 PM, Ellen Rony at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Joanna-- Many of us have been on this IFWP list since it was launched in about June of 1998. It went through a period of non-use and

Re: [IFWP] Introduction

2001-09-11 Thread Einar Stefferud
Fair enough;-)... You can learn about me from the ORSC WEB SITE: http://www.open-rsc.org Where I have placed some essays and other writings. I have been around the ARPANET/Internet since 1975, and I know most of the early Internauts. I was very active in the IETGF for many

Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-11 Thread Einar Stefferud
Hi Kent -- Now that I see you are here, I shall simply exit stage left;-)... Enjoy;-)...\Stef At 23:03 -0700 10/09/01, Kent Crispin wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 12:08:16AM -0400, Richard J. Sexton wrote: Beautiful. But who gave you your IP number? The same place ICANN got their. A

Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-11 Thread Einar Stefferud
Well, how about that. With Kent Crispin here the beans are already spilt, which is why I am leaving. Cheers...\Stef At 00:38 -0700 11/09/01, Einar Stefferud wrote: Well, we run some danger of you going to ICANN meetings and spilling our beans;-)... So, you will find some hostility here to

Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-11 Thread Ken Freed
As for ICANN finding out your plan, Stef, seems wise to presume that your postings here have already been forwarded to ICANN by lurkers on this list. There is no stealth on an open mailing list -- ken Well, we run some danger of you going to ICANN meetings and spilling our beans;-)...

Re: [IFWP] The emperor is still naked

2001-09-11 Thread Ellen Rony
The development of TCP/IP and Mosaic were breathrough applications. Mosaic allowed people to navigate the web with greater ease and Nascape, easier yet, opened the doors to rapid expansion of the Internet. The parallel universe of TLDs needs either a breathrough application (a mere click on the

Re: [IFWP] Introduction

2001-09-11 Thread Ellen Rony
The obvious needs to be pointed out: if every time someone new joins the list, several hundred people must (re)introduce themselves, this list will consist of nothing but endless introductions. And everybody sensible will unsubscribe. New people should introduce themselves. Silence from the

Re: [IFWP] The emperor is still naked

2001-09-11 Thread Richard J. Sexton
The parallel universe of TLDs needs either a breathrough application (a mere click on the browser that allows people to select their choice of root server operator) or breakthrough content that makes people want to reconfigure computers to access that information. (It's difficult, at this time,

Re: [IFWP] Introduction

2001-09-11 Thread Karl Auerbach
I was surprised to see this long dead mailbox come to life. I'm listening here - but right now I'm (like probably a lot of folks) kinda focused elsewhere. --karl--

[IFWP] Re: Introduction

2001-09-11 Thread Jay Fenello
At 9/10/01 09:52 PM, Joanna Lane wrote: Hello Einar, The funny thing about this medium is that while I have no idea who you are, you feel entitled to ask me all kinds of questions without introducing yourself. If this were the phone, I doubt I'd take your call...;-) Hi Joanna, You can read

Re: [IFWP] The emperor is still naked

2001-09-11 Thread Dan Steinberg
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Re: [IFWP] The emperor is still naked

2001-09-11 Thread Patrick Greenwell
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Dan Steinberg wrote: FYI, there's been a solution to the chicken and egg problem for years. The ethiopians have a dish, they put both chicken and the egg (hard boiled) in same pot together. It's called Doro Wat, recipe available at:

[IFWP] Garrin?

2001-09-11 Thread Richard J. Sexton
Ambler wrote: Has anyone heard from Paul Garrin? His offices are very close to the trade centre as I recall... Christopher -- But at the end of the day, even if you put a calico dress on it and call it Florence, a pig is still a pig. -- Bradshaw v. Unity Marine Corp. et al.,

Re: [IFWP] Garrin?

2001-09-11 Thread John Berryhill Ph.D. J.D.
His phone is out. - Original Message - From: Richard J. Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:25 PM Subject: [IFWP] Garrin? Ambler wrote: Has anyone heard from Paul Garrin? His offices are very close to the trade centre as I recall...

Re: [IFWP] working within ICANN

2001-09-11 Thread Einar Stefferud
Of course, and I assume you will make sure that it is passed along, in case someone else has not;-)... Fortunately, my plans are just thoughts on the fly;-)... But thank you very much for informing everyone here that ICANN has spies all around us, to be sure they know what we think, so they