Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread jeff Williams
Roland and all, In part I agree and have stated as much on this thread several times and in several ways as well. However the substance of their case, is both relevant and important as well. SOme may disagree with the pgMedia's desire for so many gTLD's and/or claim to them, which I think is

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread jeff Williams
WIlliam and all, William X. Walsh wrote: > On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: > > > No, not well known for that at all Jeff. I have never done anything you > > > mention in this paragraph. You on the other hand > > > >Hum? That is not what your fromer employer stated clerly

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread jeff Williams
William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: > On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: > > William and all, > >Indeed this is true. But it could be made to LOOK differently in a court > > of law. Couple that with the fact that Chris dropped his case, will weigh > > to some unknown degree on the j

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread jeff Williams
Bill and all, Bill Lovell wrote: > *At 09:11 PM 3/19/99 +, you wrote: > >William and all, > > > > True enough. However by the same token it doesn't mean that the > >appeal won't either. Hence the reason for a court of appeals, william. > >In addition if there is more discovery, which is l

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread William X. Walsh
On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: >Well documented what William? I have made no agreements on > any public forum to my knowledge. In addition it would be against > my companies policy to do so, ad as they get every post that Oh so now there are multiple companies? Do they also have myst

RE: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
At 07:11 PM 3/19/99 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote: > >On 20-Mar-99 Gordon Cook wrote: >> NTIA has not a shred of legally defensible authority to be doing what it is >> doing. I have triple sourced this. But to challenge NTIA now you need a >> legally agrieved party. With the PGMedia case now

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread William X. Walsh
On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: > > No, not well known for that at all Jeff. I have never done anything you > > mention in this paragraph. You on the other hand > >Hum? That is not what your fromer employer stated clerly > William... Shall I repost that little piece o

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
The real problem is that pgMedia is hunting the wrong duck. At 06:46 PM 3/19/99 -0800, William X. Walsh wrote: > >Doesn't mean the appeal has any more merit than the original case did. > > > >On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: >> Gordon and all, >> >>As you know, pgMedia has filed an appeal

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread jeff Williams
William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: > On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: > >Well documented what William? I have made no agreements on > > any public forum to my knowledge. In addition it would be against > > my companies policy to do so, ad as they get every post that > > Oh so now

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread William X. Walsh
On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: > William and all, >Indeed this is true. But it could be made to LOOK differently in a court > of law. Couple that with the fact that Chris dropped his case, will weigh > to some unknown degree on the judges mind, should Chris and IOD, > decides to revi

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-20 Thread jeff Williams
William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: > On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: > > William and all, > > > > William X. Walsh wrote: > > > > > I don't think PGMedia is a credible plaintiff, Jeff. I know you do (no > > > surprise there in light of, well, that subject is for another time). > > > >

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread jeff Williams
William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: > On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: > > William and all, > > > > William X. Walsh wrote: > > > > > On 20-Mar-99 Gordon Cook wrote: > > > > NTIA has not a shred of legally defensible authority to be doing what it > > > > is > > > > doing. I have trip

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread William X. Walsh
On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: > William and all, > > William X. Walsh wrote: > > > I don't think PGMedia is a credible plaintiff, Jeff. I know you do (no > > surprise there in light of, well, that subject is for another time). > >I think the fact that pgMedia had the both the gut

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread jeff Williams
William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: > I don't think PGMedia is a credible plaintiff, Jeff. I know you do (no > surprise there in light of, well, that subject is for another time). I think the fact that pgMedia had the both the guts to bring the case in part, stands for itself as to thei

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread William X. Walsh
On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: > William and all, > > William X. Walsh wrote: > > > On 20-Mar-99 Gordon Cook wrote: > > > NTIA has not a shred of legally defensible authority to be doing what it > > > is > > > doing. I have triple sourced this. But to challenge NTIA now you need > >

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread William X. Walsh
I don't think PGMedia is a credible plaintiff, Jeff. I know you do (no surprise there in light of, well, that subject is for another time). A more credible plaintiff will have more support and be able to make a more convincing and compelling case. And the appropriate defendent is not NSI, Jeff

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread jeff Williams
William and all, William X. Walsh wrote: > On 20-Mar-99 Gordon Cook wrote: > > NTIA has not a shred of legally defensible authority to be doing what it is > > doing. I have triple sourced this. But to challenge NTIA now you need a > > legally agrieved party. With the PGMedia case now histo

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread Bill Lovell
*At 09:11 PM 3/19/99 +, you wrote: >William and all, > > True enough. However by the same token it doesn't mean that the >appeal won't either. Hence the reason for a court of appeals, william. >In addition if there is more discovery, which is likely in this particular >case there is a whole

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread Gordon Cook
>Doesn't mean the appeal has any more merit than the original case did. > > > >On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: >> Gordon and all, >> >>As you know, pgMedia has filed an appeal.. So there is still an >> agrieved party. ahh, but no new facts or information can be added to an appeal. y

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread jeff Williams
William and all, True enough. However by the same token it doesn't mean that the appeal won't either. Hence the reason for a court of appeals, william. In addition if there is more discovery, which is likely in this particular case there is a whole new case potentially. William X. Walsh wrot

RE: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread William X. Walsh
On 20-Mar-99 Gordon Cook wrote: > NTIA has not a shred of legally defensible authority to be doing what it is > doing. I have triple sourced this. But to challenge NTIA now you need a > legally agrieved party. With the PGMedia case now history we don't > presently have a legally aggrieve

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther

1999-03-19 Thread William X. Walsh
Doesn't mean the appeal has any more merit than the original case did. On 19-Mar-99 jeff Williams wrote: > Gordon and all, > >As you know, pgMedia has filed an appeal.. So there is still an > agrieved party. > > Gordon Cook wrote: > > > Someone asked: Why was NSI granted a two y

Re: [IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther Dyson on March 18

1999-03-19 Thread jeff Williams
Gordon and all, As you know, pgMedia has filed an appeal.. So there is still an agrieved party. Gordon Cook wrote: > Someone asked: Why was NSI granted a two year extension to the > Cooperative Agreement without an open re-bid? The end of the Cooperative > Agreement wasn't something that j

[IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther Dyson on March 18

1999-03-19 Thread Gordon Cook
Someone asked: Why was NSI granted a two year extension to the Cooperative Agreement without an open re-bid? The end of the Cooperative Agreement wasn't something that just snuck up and bit NTIA in the bottom and said "surprise!". Cook: NTIA wanted to rebid. NSF saw no need to rebid.. It

[IFWP] Re: [bwg-n-friends] Re: Bay Area meeting with Esther Dyson on March 18

1999-03-19 Thread Bret A. Fausett
Ellen Rony wrote: >We had a good turnout for a two-hour meeting with Esther Dyson (ED). Thanks Ellen! A wonderful overview. -- Bret