Re: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-24 Thread Karl Auerbach
At 12:24 AM 5/24/99 -0400, Marsh, Miles (Gene) wrote: The Internet is, in large measure, the result of the forward thinking, creative people who have been commenting on the issues. Hear their What an odd thing to say. In fact very, very few of the people participating in any of these

Re: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-24 Thread Dave Crocker
At 01:08 AM 5/24/99 -0700, Karl Auerbach wrote: At 12:24 AM 5/24/99 -0400, Marsh, Miles (Gene) wrote: The Internet is, in large measure, the result of the forward thinking, creative people who have been commenting on the issues. Hear their In fact very, very few of the people

RE: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-24 Thread Marsh, Miles (Gene)
Title: RE: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karl, You are, of course, mostly right. There has been input form *some* of the grey-beards (my beard starting turning grey last year, does that mean I qualify :-)?) and from many newbies, wanna-be's

Re: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-24 Thread Mikki Barry
At 12:29 PM -0400 5/24/99, Dave Crocker wrote: So there are a few of us, purportedly experienced, grey-beards out here. ;-) That's why I said a few, rather than none. I believe there are far more than you might think, Dave. Many with vast experience are watching this process, but have not yet

Re: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-24 Thread Karl Auerbach
They do not have any experience in the Internet's style of decision making and they do not suffer from the delays they are causing. The "Internet's style of decision making", assuming that means the warm image of love, peace, and good vibes as exemplified by the IETF ... That style is no

Re: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-24 Thread Jeff Williams
Karl and all, Well said Karl, and to a great degree I agree. I would add that however, as we ARE really talking about governance, we collectively must decide as stakeholders determing what FORM of government we must have. This is something that the ICANN Interim Board seems to believe that it

RE: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-24 Thread Marsh, Miles (Gene)
Title: RE: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, May 24, 1999 4:13PM, Karl Auerbach wrote: The IETF has had many major debates, red faces, sweat pouring out, people shouting, people screeming. I know, I was there doing some

Re: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-24 Thread Bill Lovell
At 01:13 PM 5/24/99 -0700, you wrote: They do not have any experience in the Internet's style of decision making and they do not suffer from the delays they are causing. The "Internet's style of decision making", assuming that means the warm image of love, peace, and good vibes as

Re: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-24 Thread Bill Lovell
At 05:44 AM 5/25/99 +0200, you wrote: great sad truth. thank you for saying it. you certainly know that cerebalaw.com can not be viewed ? No, I did not, and I just confirmed it. Could you tell me when you first noted that? I'll call my ISP in the morning, and send them an email right now. And

[IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-23 Thread Marsh, Miles (Gene)
Title: Time to lay out the hand -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Esther, The past few weeks have passed with a flurry of messages back and forth on a number of critical topics. During this time, the principals involved with the ICANN process have been unfortunately missing

Re: [IFWP] Time to lay out the hand

1999-05-23 Thread Dave Crocker
At 12:24 AM 5/24/99 -0400, Marsh, Miles (Gene) wrote: The Internet is, in large measure, the result of the forward thinking, creative people who have been commenting on the issues. Hear their What an odd thing to say. In fact very, very few of the people participating in any of these public