Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Jeff Williams
Greg and all, Maybe you have forgotten, we already have three (3) root server operators that are not in agreement with ICANN at the moment... Greg Skinner wrote: > Jeff Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Again I see that you still missed Richard's point and my > > reiteration of that

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Richard J. Sexton
>Richard, the point I'm trying to make is that it will require >substantial numbers of DNS admins to start pointing at the alternative >roots (in particular admins of sites that serve substantial numbers >of users) to change the status quo. You're telling me ? >Perhaps there will be a grassroots

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Greg Skinner
"Richard J. Sexton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg Skinner wrote: >> I can't imagine anything that ICANN would do that would cause the >> Internet community to take its DNS from someplace else en masse. > En masse ? No. One of them is already pretty pissed though. Richard, the point I'm try

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 10:20 AM 10/3/99 -0700, you wrote: >"Richard J. Sexton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Greg Skinner wrote: > >>> Basically, you're saying what I said before. People may not be happy >>> with ICANN, but they don't want to change the status quo. > >> Noy yet, no. Wait till ICANN actually *does*

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Greg Skinner
Jeff Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again I see that you still missed Richard's point and my > reiteration of that point entirely. I guess I am really dense. :) Anyway, we'll see what happens, if ICANN does something that causes the DNS admins of the Internet community to point at the

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Jeff Williams
Greg and all, Again I see that you still missed Richard's point and my reiteration of that point entirely. Besides, ICANN does not control the Roots now with the new DOC deal. So ICANN is not offering anything except over-regulation. In addition some existing Premier customers of NSI that re

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Greg Skinner
"Richard J. Sexton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg Skinner wrote: >> Basically, you're saying what I said before. People may not be happy >> with ICANN, but they don't want to change the status quo. > Noy yet, no. Wait till ICANN actually *does* something. I can't imagine anything that ICA

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 08:44 AM 10/3/99 -0700, you wrote: >"Richard J. Sexton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'll save you the trouble. It can be summarized as "Icann has a few >> warts on it, but it's the only option". > >> You'll also hear a lot of "I'm tired of this and I don't really >> care any more", "if we

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Greg Skinner
Jeff Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think this is what Richard is saying at all, Greg. Rather > he is saying that allot of people would luv to see serious changes > but feel they are up against ICANN that is is basically intractable. > So they are left with their own devices and

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Jeff Williams
Greg and all, I don't think this is what Richard is saying at all, Greg. Rather he is saying that allot of people would luv to see serious changes but feel they are up against ICANN that is is basically intractable. So they are left with their own devices and feel betrayed by ICANN. Greg Skin

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-03 Thread Greg Skinner
"Richard J. Sexton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll save you the trouble. It can be summarized as "Icann has a few > warts on it, but it's the only option". > You'll also hear a lot of "I'm tired of this and I don't really > care any more", "if we don't the ITU will take over" and > "...worki

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-02 Thread Jeff Williams
Richard and all, Yes, these are the basic mantra's that are being espoused presently, and have been for some time now. Fatigue in this whole situation has set in, and did so some time ago now. But new life could be put back into this with the proper planning and $$. Richard J. Sexton wrote:

Re: [IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-02 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 05:56 PM 10/2/99 -0700, you wrote: >I've decided to ask a few friends and colleagues their opinions on what's >happened with ICANN lately, and what they are prepared and willing to do. >These people have been on the net for 10+ years, are individual domain >name holders, and have at least an ad

[IFWP] gotta go, but ...

1999-10-02 Thread Greg Skinner
I've decided to ask a few friends and colleagues their opinions on what's happened with ICANN lately, and what they are prepared and willing to do. These people have been on the net for 10+ years, are individual domain name holders, and have at least an admin-level understanding of how the Interne