[ifwp] Re: Secret meetings

1999-01-10 Thread William X. Walsh
On 09-Jan-99 Michael Sondow wrote: > You're not worth arguing with, William Walsh. You're a poor human being with > no honesty, no morals, no common sense, nothing but your own greed and > jealosy of others. I'm amazed that you dare show your face on these lists > after having been exposed for yo

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-10 Thread Michael Sondow
Roeland M.J. Meyer a écrit: > > At 04:17 PM 1/9/99 -0500, Michael Sondow wrote: > >Mikki Barry a écrit: > > > >> >mindless sniping about open vs closed meetings/lists > >> >seems absolutely entrenched. I just thought I would join in on the > >> >fun. > >> > >> It's not fun IMHO. I'd really like

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
At 04:17 PM 1/9/99 -0500, Michael Sondow wrote: >Mikki Barry a écrit: > >> >mindless sniping about open vs closed meetings/lists >> >seems absolutely entrenched. I just thought I would join in on the >> >fun. >> >> It's not fun IMHO. I'd really like to get on with getting some work done. > >Yes

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Michael Sondow
Mikki Barry a écrit: > >mindless sniping about open vs closed meetings/lists > >seems absolutely entrenched. I just thought I would join in on the > >fun. > > It's not fun IMHO. I'd really like to get on with getting some work done. Yes, some work is good. But tell us, Mikki, on the 21st of J

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
At 07:22 AM 1/9/99 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote: >On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 09:02:17AM -0500, Mikki Barry wrote: >> any possible way we can stop the sniping and maybe start being more >> productive? > >I doubt it -- mindless sniping about open vs closed meetings/lists >seems absolutely entrenched. I

[ifwp] Re: Secret meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
At 11:11 AM 1/9/99 -0500, Richard J. Sexton wrote: >At 07:37 AM 1/9/99 -0500, Michael Sondow wrote: >>Richard J. Sexton a écrit: >>You've agreed to attend a closed meeting, knowing full well that people were >>being excluded. Now, when attacked, you claim to be doing it in the public >>interest. T

[ifwp] Re: Secret meetings

1999-01-09 Thread jeff Williams
Richard J. Sexton wrote: > At 07:37 AM 1/9/99 -0500, Michael Sondow wrote: > >Richard J. Sexton a écrit: > >> > >> At 02:09 AM 1/9/99 -0500, Michael Sondow wrote: > >> >That meeting you're going to is the real meeting, from which the opposition > >> >is being excluded. The one the next day is t

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 07:22 AM 1/9/99 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote: > >It is sadly true that people have fixated on the issue of "closed" vs >"open" meetings/lists, and it has become a mantra for mindless >criticism of people whose position you don't agree with. But the >fact is that meetings and lists have many purpo

[ifwp] Re: Secret meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 07:32 AM 1/9/99 -0500, you wrote: >Richard J. Sexton a écrit: > >> You should apologize. > >I should apologize to William Walsh, after the way he attacks every message >I send regardless of what it says, just because he's afraid of the >"customers" having any say in the Internet "business"? >

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Mikki Barry
>On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 09:02:17AM -0500, Mikki Barry wrote: >> >> I agree the foul stencg of secret deals from IAHC >> >> days still lingers, but you're on a witch hunt Kent. >> > >> >Something you should be very familiar with, I must admit. >> >> So much for working together for the common good

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Kent Crispin
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 09:02:17AM -0500, Mikki Barry wrote: > >> I agree the foul stencg of secret deals from IAHC > >> days still lingers, but you're on a witch hunt Kent. > > > >Something you should be very familiar with, I must admit. > > So much for working together for the common good of th

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Mikki Barry
>On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 01:18:01AM -0500, Richard J. Sexton wrote: >> Not form my observation. >> >> BWG was cc'd as a courtesy. Poepel simply kept the cc line. > >So you say. And so says the editor of the draft. > >> Nothing gets decided on the BWG list. > >So you say. > >> I agree the foul ste

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Mikki Barry
>It's obvious, however, from the continual "cc's" to the >"bwg-n-friends" list in Mikki's messages that things were being >decided on the closed bwg-n-friends list as far as the ORSC draft was >concerned. Most of Mikki's draft just appeared on the ORSC list -- >the comments from the ORSC list are

[ifwp] Re: Secret meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Michael Sondow
Richard J. Sexton a écrit: > You should apologize. I should apologize to William Walsh, after the way he attacks every message I send regardless of what it says, just because he's afraid of the "customers" having any say in the Internet "business"? Not likely.

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
At 12:41 AM 1/9/99 -0500, Richard J. Sexton wrote: >I made a great batch of chili tonight. I broke out the wok and made some Indonesian fried rice (nasi goreng) with lottsa sambal (chili sauce to y'all, my eyes are still watering ). ___ Roeland M.

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 11:45 PM 1/8/99 -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote: >At 12:41 AM 1/9/99 -0500, Richard J. Sexton wrote: > >>I made a great batch of chili tonight. > >I broke out the wok and made some Indonesian fried rice (nasi goreng) with >lottsa sambal (chili sauce to y'all, my eyes are still watering ). HEY

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 02:36 AM 1/9/99 -0500, Marc Hurst wrote: > > >On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Richard J. Sexton wrote: > >> Isn't this going a bit too far ? >> >> Last night I met with Jay Fenello. Nobody was told, >> nobody could show up unless they stumbled across us. >> Secret. Closed. Evil. > >Wow... > >Tressa? Richa

[ifwp] Re: Secret meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 02:15 AM 1/9/99 -0500, Michael Sondow wrote: >You're not worth arguing with, William Walsh. You're a poor human being with >no honesty, no morals, no common sense, nothing but your own greed and >jealosy of others. I'm amazed that you dare show your face on these lists >after having been expose

[ifwp] Re: Secret meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
At 02:15 AM 1/9/99 -0500, Michael Sondow wrote: >You're not worth arguing with, William Walsh. You're a poor human being with >no honesty, no morals, no common sense, nothing but your own greed and >jealosy of others. I'm amazed that you dare show your face on these lists >after having been expose

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
At 10:08 PM 1/8/99 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote: >On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 12:41:33AM -0500, Richard J. Sexton wrote: >It's obvious, however, from the continual "cc's" to the >"bwg-n-friends" list in Mikki's messages that things were being >decided on the closed bwg-n-friends list as far as the ORSC

[ifwp] Re: Secret meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Michael Sondow
You're not worth arguing with, William Walsh. You're a poor human being with no honesty, no morals, no common sense, nothing but your own greed and jealosy of others. I'm amazed that you dare show your face on these lists after having been exposed for your fraud and double-dealings with .tjn, but

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Kent Crispin
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 01:18:01AM -0500, Richard J. Sexton wrote: > Not form my observation. > > BWG was cc'd as a courtesy. Poepel simply kept the cc line. So you say. > Nothing gets decided on the BWG list. So you say. > I agree the foul stencg of secret deals from IAHC > days still linger

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Richard J. Sexton
Not form my observation. BWG was cc'd as a courtesy. Poepel simply kept the cc line. Nothing gets decided on the BWG list. How could it? What meaning or significance could it have. I agree the foul stencg of secret deals from IAHC days still lingers, but you're on a witch hunt Kent. At 10:08

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread William X. Walsh
On 09-Jan-99 Kent Crispin wrote: > > It's obvious, however, from the continual "cc's" to the > "bwg-n-friends" list in Mikki's messages that things were being > decided on the closed bwg-n-friends list as far as the ORSC draft was > concerned. Most of Mikki's draft just appeared on the ORSC lis

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Kent Crispin
On Sat, Jan 09, 1999 at 12:41:33AM -0500, Richard J. Sexton wrote: > Isn't this going a bit too far ? > > Last night I met with Jay Fenello. Nobody was told, > nobody could show up unless they stumbled across us. > Secret. Closed. Evil. > > But this happens. Poeple do meet without wanitng the >

[ifwp] Re: Secret Meetings

1999-01-09 Thread Christopher Ambler
>I made a great batch of chili tonight. I worked late, and ate my dinner cold, when I got home. On the other hand, my wife just took warm brownies out of the oven. I'll eat some now, in a closed meeting. Christopher __ To receive the digest vers