Re: hello dave farber Re: [IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks Houseof Cards - the ICANN NSI Cartel and DOC authority

1999-10-08 Thread J. Baptista
On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Greg Skinner wrote: > Joe Baptista wrote: > > > Vixie is not an activist. Vixie, like any other individual is motivated > > strictly by self interest. The recent RBL vs. NSI struggle was a clear > > indication Vixie can, like anyone else, impose his views on the world. > >

Re: hello dave farber Re: [IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks Houseof Cards - the ICANN NSI Cartel and DOC authority

1999-10-08 Thread J. Baptista
This need a little investigation and response .. On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Greg Skinner wrote: > At 08:24 AM 10/2/99 -0700, Richard Sexton wrote: > > Vixie is an extremist. Back when the birth of news:alt was the bigest > > mess on the net he was the only backbone cabal memebr that thought this > > wo

Re: hello dave farber Re: [IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks Houseof Cards - the ICANN NSI Cartel and DOC authority

1999-10-02 Thread J. Baptista
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Greg Skinner wrote: > "J. Baptista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's not really an issue - is it. Name daemons come prepackaged with > > the root servers already prelisted in the root cache file. Few DNS > > administrators even know there are options. > > So under

Re: hello dave farber Re: [IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks Houseof Cards - the ICANN NSI Cartel and DOC authority

1999-10-02 Thread J. Baptista
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Greg Skinner wrote: > to defy the USG's orders that they not do this? What is the level of > commitment the hundreds of thousands of net admins who configure their > DNS servers to the root server operators (as compared with the level > of stability that they are currently p

Re: hello dave farber Re: [IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks Houseof Cards - the ICANN NSI Cartel and DOC authority

1999-10-02 Thread J. Baptista
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Greg Skinner wrote: > "J. Baptista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No. How about real competition? There are 160,000 estimated dns > > administrators who control which root servers are used by their users. > > How much do you think corporate interests would pay these adm

Re: hello dave farber Re: [IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks Houseof Cards - the ICANN NSI Cartel and DOC authority

1999-10-02 Thread J. Baptista
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Greg Skinner wrote: > perfect, offers stability. If there was some kind of cyber-revolt, most > likely the USG would step in and instruct the net to take their DNS from > sites that present the same level of coordination they currently enjoy. No. How about real competition

Re: hello dave farber Re: [IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks Houseof Cards - the ICANN NSI Cartel and DOC authority

1999-10-02 Thread J. Baptista
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, Greg Skinner wrote: > If you look at the history of AlterNIC, eDNS, etc. you will see that the net > did not jump whole hog onto the activist bandwagon. That suggests to me that > there is quite a bit of support for the status quo. Greg - issues presented by you are irrelev

hello dave farber Re: [IFWP] Vint Cerf's and John Patricks Houseof Cards - the ICANN NSI Cartel and DOC authority

1999-10-01 Thread Gordon Cook
greg -- you may be right. Yet if you are right and with an ICANN failure all big business would have to do would be to go to Congress for a quick and easy fix, then I ask what are Cerf and Patrick afraid of? Dave Farber who is on this list put it a little differently. Aug 22, 1999: Farber: