[WSG] Average Page Sizes

2006-09-05 Thread Samuel Richardson
Hello list,   What is considered an acceptable total page size for the web these days? Clearly the smaller the better but I’ve put together a fairly graphic heavy travel website with a homepage size of about 300k. With GZIP switched on in the server I imagine that this will be reduced fai

Re: [WSG] upload video restrictions

2006-09-05 Thread Ido
Melissa, I'd strongly urge you to consider using ffmpeg or even ffmpeg-php to convert the video from most of those formats to FLV, and stream it with in an SWF. (Google "FLVPlayer" for open source code to generate an SWF player that streams FLV files with Ming/PHP.) Or at least, use ffm

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Mathew Patterson wrote: > I hope that long blurb helps, It does, thanks :-) Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Mathew Patterson
On 06/09/2006, at 11:00 AM, Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: If I am using a class to make text red in multiple instances throughout a site for purely decorative reasons -- used to add to the a presentational layer -- it seems to me that using a class like red make a lot of sense. Mike, Yo

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
To everyone who responded to my question and need for logic thank you! What you given me makes a lot of sense. Think from a maintenance perspective and a matter of universal function. Very logical. I like that. I've never used "red" (I've always opted for .error), but I have used .bold, .italic

[WSG] upload video restrictions

2006-09-05 Thread Melissa Cooper
Hi all, I'm producing a project with a video upload component... Its a php, mysql solution. Wondering if any of you have tips/ experiences doing this kind of thing. I'm thinking of restricting to the following formats: avi, asf, wmv, mpg, mp4, fla, swf, mov, 3gp with a 20MB limit per per

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Seona Bellamy
On 06/09/06, Mike at Green-Beast.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You guys all agree so there must be something to this and I'll bear thismind. In the future may consider stopping the use of classes like "red," butI must say this is completely over my head. If I am using a class to make text red in m

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Futter
On 6/9/06 11:00 AM, "Mike at Green-Beast.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Novitski >> Isn't that rather like classing a paragraph "red" >> or "left" or "large"? [...] > > You guys all agree so there must be something to this and I'll bear this > mind. In the future may consider stopping th

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: Is it because that class is shown in the mark up layer that makes it somehow wrong? Yup. http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/goodclassnames -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postposit

Re: class names and IDs (was Re: [WSG] p:first-line)

2006-09-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
David Dixon wrote: > Patrick is correct however in the "standards evangelist" sense ;) > p.indent describes the action of the class (what in x months time, i > decided that i didnt want to indent it, but colour it blue instead). On > the other hand, p.first describes the element it

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Paul Novitski > Isn't that rather like classing a paragraph "red" > or "left" or "large"? [...] You guys all agree so there must be something to this and I'll bear this mind. In the future may consider stopping the use of classes like "red," but I must say this is completely over my hea

Re: class names and IDs (was Re: [WSG] p:first-line)

2006-09-05 Thread David Dixon
My my, if only I had a penny for every time this topic of conversation was brought up on the list :p Patrick is correct however in the "standards evangelist" sense ;) p.indent describes the action of the class (what in x months time, i decided that i didnt want to indent it, but colour it blue

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Paul Novitski
At 9/5/2006 03:27 PM, Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: Yeah, I was just going along with what was posted in the original email; but changing the pseudo element to a class. I always try to keep classes and IDs as revealing as possible... makes going back to troubleshoot and such much easier. I would

Re: class names and IDs (was Re: [WSG] p:first-line)

2006-09-05 Thread Helen Morgan
Not sounding grumpy at all Patrick. Sounding sensible. Semantic class names are good! I've just revisted the work of a programmer who wouldn't listen to me about this, and has called coding variables $sideSubmenu and $sideRefine, because OF COURSE every client I deal with is always going to wa

RE: [WSG] XHTML X-Browser Standard for MP3

2006-09-05 Thread Harvey Ramer
There's also an interesting feature offered by del.icio.us called Play Tagger that uses a snippet of javascript to embed a Flash audio player that encourages sharing via a del.icio.us bookmarking feature. I used it on the CIMP records site (http://cimprecords.com) and it's available here: http://de

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Futter
On 6/9/06 8:59 AM, "Mike at Green-Beast.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick H. Lauke wrote: >> To be picky, again: if you called the class >> "indent" though you wouldn't be describing >> *what* you're classing > > I hear you and I'll concede. That was a quick-quick response. But the same >

class names and IDs (was Re: [WSG] p:first-line)

2006-09-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: I would come up with something that meant something to me and that made sense. "Indent" really wasn't bad, though. In the CSS it would have been written as #description p.indent { } which really is quite telling as to what it is, where it is, and what it's for.

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: > To be picky, again: if you called the class > "indent" though you wouldn't be describing > *what* you're classing I hear you and I'll concede. That was a quick-quick response. But the same could be said of "first" (to get picky)... First what, etc? But regard

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: Yeah, I was just going along with what was posted in the original email; but changing the pseudo element to a class. I always try to keep classes and IDs as revealing as possible... makes going back to troubleshoot and such much easier. I would have probably call

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: > To be picky, the class name should then > be "first-paragraph" to accurately describe > what you're doingor simply "first" :) Yeah, I was just going along with what was posted in the original email; but changing the pseudo element to a class. I always try

Re: [WSG] XHTML X-Browser Standard for MP3

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Livingston
On 9/5/06 3:41 PM, "TuteC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > haha, but it looks neat and is really comfortable to use something > like that, when it works. Is there a simple way, as youtube for > videos, to do it? Or it is not so simple? I think youtube uses flash, > don´t they? > Regards and thank

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: What I mean is if he wants just the first line of a *multi-paragraph* container indented, then it'd be best to apply the class. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postp

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Navjot Pawera wrote: > >> Unless it's just for the first paragraph then you will need the p >> class="first-line" > >> #description p.first-line { >> text-indent : 3em; >> } >> >> > In what case would we need to "indent the first line" ? > Doesn't indenting mean exactly the same thin

Re: [WSG] XHTML X-Browser Standard for MP3

2006-09-05 Thread TuteC
haha, but it looks neat and is really comfortable to use something like that, when it works. Is there a simple way, as youtube for videos, to do it? Or it is not so simple? I think youtube uses flash, don´t they? Regards and thanks in advance; Eugenio. On 9/5/06, Sarah Peeke (XERT) <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 5 Sep 2006, at 19:19, Designer wrote: I'm trying to use: #description p:first-line { margin-left : 3em; } and it refuses to take any notice of me! However, if I use: #description p:first-line { color : #f00; } that works fine. Can anyone shed any light on this? Accordin

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Navjot Pawera
Unless it's just for the first paragraph then you will need the p class="first-line" #description p.first-line { text-indent : 3em; } In what case would we need to "indent the first line" ? Doesn't indenting mean exactly the same thing ?? -- Navjot Pawera www.navjotpawera

RE: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Julie Romanowski
margin is not one of the properties that apply to "first-line" http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1#the-first-line-pseudo-element -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Designer Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:20 PM To: wsg@webstandard

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Designer wrote: > [...] #description p:first-line { margin-left : 3em; } > and it refuses to take any notice of me! I assume you mean a class #description p.first-line, yes? Try text-indent maybe with no class at all. #description p { text-indent : 3em; } Unless it's just

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Navjot Pawera
From the w3c specifications for CSS2 - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/selector.html#first-line-pseudo "The :first-line pseudo-element is similar to an inline-level element, but with certain restrictions. Only the following properties apply to a :first-line pseudo-element: font properties, colo

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/5/06, Designer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm trying to use: #description p:first-line { margin-left : 3em; } If all you're trying to do is indent the first line of each paragraph, you don't need to use :first-line at all. #description p { text-indent: 3em; } **

[WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Designer
Hello everyone, I think I'm cracking up! I'm trying to use: #description p:first-line { margin-left : 3em; } and it refuses to take any notice of me! However, if I use: #description p:first-line { color : #f00; } that works fine. Can anyone shed any light on this? The full CS

Re: [WSG] PNG support cross browser

2006-09-05 Thread porneL
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:19:00 +0100, Jesse Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anders Nawroth wrote: You can get problems with colors not matching between PNG and HTML/CSS colors. It has to do with Gamma values, read more here: I haven't experimented with this myself, but I understand you ca

Re: [WSG] PNG support cross browser

2006-09-05 Thread Jesse Skinner
Anders Nawroth wrote: You can get problems with colors not matching between PNG and HTML/CSS colors. It has to do with Gamma values, read more here: I haven't experimented with this myself, but I understand you can use a utility such as 'pngcrush' to remove the gamma information (and reduce t

Re: [WSG] PNG support cross browser

2006-09-05 Thread Anders Nawroth
Tony Crockford skrev: I understand the limitations of alpha transparency and 24 bit png, but is it safe to use 8bit png in place of gif files? You can get problems with colors not matching between PNG and HTML/CSS colors. It has to do with Gamma values, read more here: "The Sad Story of PN

Re: [WSG] a href links not 100%

2006-09-05 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/5/06, James Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is what IE does, unfortunately, even when set to block. No way around it apart from some scripting maybe. To make an A tag fill the whole area of the element it is inside, set an explicit width or height (to give it hasLayout in IE) and dis

Re: [WSG] a href links not 100%

2006-09-05 Thread James Ellis
This is what IE does, unfortunately, even when set to block. No way around it apart from some scripting maybe. Cheers James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup

RE: [WSG] a href links not 100%

2006-09-05 Thread Taco Fleur
Weird, I am looking at it in Firefox 1.5 and IE 6 In Firefox the links (sub nav) for example "private training home" completely cover the whole 180px, in IE only the text is linked. Kind regards, Taco Fleur free call 1800 032 982 - fax 07 3414 6464, international +61 7 3325 5103 www.pacificfo

Re: [WSG] a href links not 100%

2006-09-05 Thread arun swaroop
HI, I checked this in FF 1.5 with 1024x768 full screen size on windows I don't find any mistake. Also checked in IE 6 and Mozilla 1.7.12. I seems to be fine. Regards, -Arun --- Ján Varhol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > If you mean the links in a menu. i got it covered in > full width

Re: [WSG] PNG support cross browser

2006-09-05 Thread Joshua Street
On 9/5/06, Tony Crockford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I understand the limitations of alpha transparency and 24 bit png, but is it safe to use 8bit png in place of gif files? which browsers won't display an 8bit png (no transparency, just for the smaller file size)? You can keep your transparen

RE: [WSG] a href links not 100%

2006-09-05 Thread Taco Fleur
Sorry forgot to mention what location and in what browser. It’s the sub menu on that page, and it's in Internet Explorer.. Kind regards, Taco Fleur free call 1800 032 982 - fax 07 3414 6464, international +61 7 3325 5103 www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial experience sinc

[WSG] PNG support cross browser

2006-09-05 Thread Tony Crockford
I understand the limitations of alpha transparency and 24 bit png, but is it safe to use 8bit png in place of gif files? which browsers won't display an 8bit png (no transparency, just for the smaller file size)? a definitive table would be great... I've searched, but info is either old or c

Re: [WSG] a href links not 100%

2006-09-05 Thread Ján Varhol
Hi there, If you mean the links in a menu. i got it covered in full width to the right border. I am using Opera 9.0 undex Fedora Core 5 Linux with 1024x768 full screen size. in Firefox 1.0.8 it is ok too. I don't see a mistake. have a nice day, Ján Varhol http://www.varhol.sk/ ICQ:246-997-393

[WSG] a href links not 100%

2006-09-05 Thread Taco Fleur
Title: Website design - Pacific Fox Does anyone know why the links on http://www.executiveresults.com.au/new/personal-training.cfm only cover the text area within the tag? In firefox it covers the whole 180px Display is set to block, but still it won't cover the whole area.   Thanks in adva