Re: [WSG] linked images in form labels

2006-11-23 Thread Mel
reader users won't hear the title attribute at all but, if they do, all it will contribute is unnecessary noise. HTH Mel *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] Accessibility of forms, do you always need a label with drop downs?

2006-11-23 Thread Mel
sibility:hidden etc. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ScreenreaderVisibility Mel *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] Accessibility of forms, do you always need a label with drop downs?

2006-11-23 Thread Mel
on 23/11/2006 10:54 Barney Carroll said the following: Steve, do you know what JAWS' attitudes to display:none; and visibility:hidden; are? Not Steve but... http://www.access-matters.com/screen-reader-test-results/

Re: [WSG] xhtml strict break tag bug?

2006-11-17 Thread Mel
separate links - which means that it could create probems for some users. I'm not sure if JAWS 7 can audibly separate the links itself. Certainly, older screen readers will have problems and, probably, anyone using a bra

Re: [WSG] xhtml strict break tag bug?

2006-11-17 Thread Mel
essibility, any warnings from accessibility parsers can be safely ignored. Mel *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] Cynthia Reports Warnings 9.4 and 9.5 as relates to form

2006-11-10 Thread Mel
it's so over-used) so will not be pre-warned about the new window. Automated accessibility parser warnings about tab indexes and access keys can be safely ignored provided you've actually tested the keybaord navigation of the page yourself and you

Re: [WSG] Articles/reasearch/experience of screen readers

2006-11-03 Thread Mel
sion has been around long enough, or is implemented widely enough, to indicate how many keyboard navigators actually use make use of the facility when it's offered. I know I've never bothered. :-) Mel *** Lis

Re: [WSG] Articles/reasearch/experience of screen readers

2006-11-03 Thread Mel
gn contrary to that expectation, the end result may be disorientations and/or frustration for this sub-group. In the past 12 months, I've not come across any newer studies that would suggest anything has changed. Hope that helps. Mel **

Re: [WSG] Articles/reasearch/experience of screen readers

2006-11-03 Thread Mel
). Using conceptual icons can help both groups to some extent but there does come a a point when there is very little a designer can do to alleviate the problems and it's really down to training, support and experience at the user's end. Mel

Re: [WSG] Articles/reasearch/experience of screen readers

2006-11-03 Thread Mel
, I just thought it was worth pointing out that those suffering from severe dyslexia often use screen readers for support. So it maybe unwise to assume that a screen reader user can't see. Mel *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Additional space between sentences ?

2006-11-02 Thread Mel
arily, in my opinion). And for what benefit? Mel *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] Flash is more accessible than CSS?

2006-10-30 Thread Mel
on 30/10/2006 14:14 Rob Kirton said the following: FAO Katie Ledger I (undoubtedly along with others) found your article "designing a more accessible web" to be of great interest. If you're asking for signees to this, please add my na

Re: [WSG] accesibility lawsuit

2006-10-26 Thread Mel
. Is there some sort of hangup I don't know about? OATS is fairly new (launched May 2006) but there does seem to be a reasonable archive of software already available or under development. Mel *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] can the legend include block level elements

2006-10-13 Thread Mel
the user? My own research amongst keyboard navigators suggest that very few, if any, will bother to 'learn' accesskeys associated with a specific site. After all, would you? If people don't already 'know' the

Re: [WSG] can the legend include block level elements

2006-10-13 Thread Mel
element - which would suggest that you can't use it to enclose a block level header element. Could you not precede the form with a header? Mel *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubs