Re: [SPAM?] Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-31 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Michael MD wrote: ? I just tried sending a fairly complex HTML email that uses tables and is *totally* styled with inline CSS to my gmail account -- and it renders exactly as I'd expect. That might be fine for webmail accounts where you are using a web browser but what about desktop email

[WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Samuel Richardson
I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables. Before you all run screaming or hang me from the gallows I have a reason, the page is being used as an email promotion, web based email readers such as GMail ignore float styles necessitating the use of table based layouts (oh

Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Svip
Drop the border colour, and give the table a background and turn up your cellspacing and set border to 0. table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=2 border=0 background=#cc However, I would strongly suggest CSS for this job. Regards, Svip On 1/30/07, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread John Faulds
Can you use CSS styles instead of HTML attributes and do: border-collapse: collapse; border: 2px solid #C00 ? On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:39:42 +1000, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables. Before you all run screaming

RE: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Samuel Richardson
: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables Drop the border colour, and give the table a background and turn up your cellspacing and set border to 0. table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=2 border=0 background=#cc However, I would strongly suggest CSS for this job. Regards, Svip On 1/30/07

FW: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Samuel Richardson
@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables Drop the border colour, and give the table a background and turn up your cellspacing and set border to 0. table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=2 border=0 background=#cc However, I would strongly suggest CSS for this job. Regards

Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread David Dorward
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 09:39:42AM +1100, Samuel Richardson wrote: I'm building an HTML 4 Transitional layout for Firefox using tables. My question is; I'm using the follow to create a 2px wide red border with padding for content table cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 border=2

Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Samuel Richardson wrote: As I explained, CSS layouts do not render in Gmail/Hotmail etc. ? I just tried sending a fairly complex HTML email that uses tables and is *totally* styled with inline CSS to my gmail account -- and it renders exactly as I'd expect. And as it happens, it has an

RE: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Rachel May
] On Behalf Of Samuel Richardson Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 12:12 p.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: FW: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables Sorry, that address should be: http://duvel.intrepidtravel.com/expresstemplate/template_japanese/ -Original Message- From

Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
Gmail supports many attributes, but not everything. I once found a great list of what different software and online clients support, sorry I have checked my bookmarks and can't locate it. If you find that list you'll be set, please post it here too because I would love to find it again!

Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Michael MD
? I just tried sending a fairly complex HTML email that uses tables and is *totally* styled with inline CSS to my gmail account -- and it renders exactly as I'd expect. That might be fine for webmail accounts where you are using a web browser but what about desktop email clients? (yes

RE: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Samuel Richardson
] On Behalf Of Samuel Richardson Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 12:12 p.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: FW: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables Sorry, that address should be: http://duvel.intrepidtravel.com/expresstemplate/template_japanese/ -Original Message

Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Harris
Michael MD wrote: That might be fine for webmail accounts where you are using a web browser but what about desktop email clients? (yes Outlook/Outlook Express use IE to render html.. but what about others?.. can you be sure everyone's email client can even render tables? maybe I might be

Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread John Faulds
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Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Michael MD wrote: That might be fine for webmail accounts where you are using a web browser but what about desktop email clients? (yes Outlook/Outlook Express use IE to render html.. but what about others?.. can you be sure everyone's email client can even render tables? maybe I might

Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Mark Harris at 01/31/07 12:01... Michael MD wrote: That might be fine for webmail accounts where you are using a web browser but what about desktop email clients? (yes Outlook/Outlook Express use IE to render html.. but what about others?.. can you be sure everyone's email client can

Re: [WSG] Remove 3D Border Effect from Firefox Tables

2007-01-30 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
It is always a good idea to check the CSS-discuss wiki http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StyleInEmail might have enough links, tips and tricks to do what you want. (and you can always update it...) Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com