Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-11 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Mihael Zadravec wrote: Oh boy..! Ok..!. :D I am not the author of that page. It was just a bad examle of Blind people community website :D But hey!..thanks for links anyway! cya! Mihael Haha! sorry Mihael I thought it was your site and you were asking for comments! d'oh and yes, it is

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Mihael Zadravec
Oh boy..! Ok..!. :D I am not the author of that page. It was just a bad examle of Blind people community website :D But hey!..thanks for links anyway! cya! Mihael On 1/11/07, Rob O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jermayn Parker wrote: > The thing that gets me with this discussion is why

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Jermayn Parker wrote: The thing that gets me with this discussion is why create all these "features" to cover up the problem? If you created it in XHTML/ php etc and not flash, you would not have these problems and then you would not have to spend extra time fixing the problems that has been

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Jermayn Parker
The thing that gets me with this discussion is why create all these "features" to cover up the problem? If you created it in XHTML/ php etc and not flash, you would not have these problems and then you would not have to spend extra time fixing the problems that has been caused by using flash.

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Christian Montoya wrote: On 1/10/07, Rob O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hassan Schroeder wrote: > Steve Green wrote: > >> We do a lot of user testing with screen reader users,... >> > > >> Also Flash movies are made in layers. >> > > Have you tested any (non-timelined) Flex-based sites or a

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Christian Montoya
On 1/10/07, Rob O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hassan Schroeder wrote: > Steve Green wrote: > >> We do a lot of user testing with screen reader users,... >> > > >> Also Flash movies are made in layers. >> > > Have you tested any (non-timelined) Flex-based sites or apps? > > Just my two penc

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Rob O'Rourke at 01/11/07 03:57... Just my two pence but I think what you really need to do is add an audio layer to that flash site. As an example one of the sites we host (its not at all accessible code-wise) has audio to say hello and indicate what you can do on a page. I think similar

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Steve Green wrote: Audio opens up a new can of worms. It certainly should not start automatically because that causes problems for several user groups, not just those with disabilities. It could benefit some users but you shouldn't implement it in a way that is to the detriment of others. Some b

RE: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Steve Green
, so users don't want to spend time doing anything that isn't really necessary. Steve -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob O'Rourke Sent: 10 January 2007 17:27 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [

RE: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Steve Green
--Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hassan Schroeder Sent: 10 January 2007 15:54 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :( Steve Green wrote: > We do a lot of user testing with screen reader users,...

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Rob O'Rourke
Hassan Schroeder wrote: Steve Green wrote: We do a lot of user testing with screen reader users,... Also Flash movies are made in layers. Have you tested any (non-timelined) Flex-based sites or apps? Just my two pence but I think what you really need to do is add an au

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Steve Green wrote: > We do a lot of user testing with screen reader users,... > Also Flash movies are made in layers. Have you tested any (non-timelined) Flex-based sites or apps? -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 ===

RE: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-10 Thread Steve Green
roup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :( Hello Steve! Do you have any information about screen reader users expirience with flash elements like navigation or others? Is the flash content ok with them or is it not? I also think that 1,000 $ is too much for a software like screen reader.

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-09 Thread Mihael Zadravec
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Novitski Sent: 09 January 2007 19:06 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :( At 1/9/2007 10:15 AM, Mihael Zadravec wrote: >This is realy sad... but this is the website of a Blind peopele >comunnity Škofja Loka from Slovenija

RE: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-09 Thread Steve Green
th this site. Steve Green Director Test Partners Ltd / First Accessibility www.testpartners.co.uk www.accessibility.co.uk -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Novitski Sent: 09 January 2007 19:06 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-09 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Mihael Zadravec at 01/10/07 04:45... This is realy sad... but this is the website of a Blind peopele comunnity Škofja Loka from Slovenija (where I live, but in Ljubljana...) Center slepih in slabovidnih Škofja Loka http://www.css-sl.si/ any comments on the code, usabillity and accessab

Re: [WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-09 Thread Paul Novitski
At 1/9/2007 10:15 AM, Mihael Zadravec wrote: This is realy sad... but this is the website of a Blind peopele comunnity Škofja Loka from Slovenija (where I live, but in Ljubljana...) Center slepih in slabovidnih Škofja Loka http://www.css-sl.si/ any comments on the code,

[WSG] my world, my country.. :(

2007-01-09 Thread Mihael Zadravec
This is realy sad... but this is the website of a Blind peopele comunnity Škofja Loka from Slovenija (where I live, but in Ljubljana...) Center slepih in slabovidnih Škofja Loka http://www.css-sl.si/ any comments on the code, usabillity and accessability issues? thank you! Mihael (Slovenija)