Re: [FLEAA] BROWARD COUNTY NEW CHAMBER MEMBER DISCOUNT LIPTON

2008-04-24 Thread Greg Sims
Hi In response to Charles' email, I wanted to present a counter idea to how the charter for FLEAA works. I'm not suggesting a change but just a different point of view. I appreciate the integrity of the members for not taking a markup or charge for their time in working with other members. I

[FLEAA] FW: 10th Annual Ft. Pierce EV Rally next Saturday

2008-04-24 Thread Andrew
Hello Everyone, Here's a repost of Charles Whalen's message. I'd like to know who is planning to attend. I will be there with my eBox. R. Andrew Roddy Public Relations Director Florida Electric Auto Association -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behal

Re: [FLEAA] BROWARD COUNTY NEW CHAMBER MEMBER DISCOUNT LIPTON

2008-04-24 Thread Charles Whalen
Hi Greg and all, Thanks for sharing your views on this important subject. You make excellent points. I have to say, however, that there is absolutely no difference between your views and my views on this subject. All that is needed here is a little clarification and elaboration, so let me try t

Re: [FLEAA] NiMH Patents

2008-04-24 Thread Charles Whalen
Hi Joseph, Your understanding is not quite correct. GoldPeak has an unrestricted, permissive Ovonics license from 1991 that allows it to sell large-format NiMH batteries (>10Ah) into the US market, which was grandfathered upon Chevron's purchase of the patents around the turn of the century. Eur

Re: [FLEAA] NiMH Patents

2008-04-24 Thread donut_o
Thanks for the grat info. So where can we get NiMH batteries for a conversion? Is there anything? I tried today all day w/saft and left messages before reading your email. They do have the battery on the site though. Thanks Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "Cha

Re: [FLEAA] NiMH Patents

2008-04-24 Thread Charles Whalen
The only place we can get them is from GoldPeak. I know and speak with GoldPeak's Chairman and have had an intensive series of meetings with GoldPeak's Chief Battery Engineer (of 30 years). I have also signed an NDA with them, which I believe they would require of anyone before they would give yo

Re: [FLEAA] NiMH Patents

2008-04-24 Thread Charles Whalen
One additional, very important point I should make on this -- relating to the requirement of having the requisite track record of demonstrated technical capability and experience to be able to competently integrate these batteries into a conversion, before GoldPeak would consider allowing someone t

[FLEAA] Fw: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site

2008-04-24 Thread Edward Ellyatt
GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site - Original Message - From: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site GM-VOLT : Chevy Volt Concept Site BREAKING: First Lithium-ion Prototype

Re: [FLEAA] NiMH Patents

2008-04-24 Thread Joseph T.
Thank you Charles for all the info. On insightcentral.net (for the Honda Insight) there was a discussion about NiMH batteries and one of the members were saying that the whole NiMH patent situation is not related to the oil companies, and instead it is entirely the fault of the market. Of course,

Re: [FLEAA] NiMH Patents

2008-04-24 Thread Charles Whalen
Hi Joseph, Having been around the EV community and industry for quite some time, I have a pretty good idea who that person is. There is principally one person, quite well-known in fact, in the EV community who takes exactly that line, and in exactly the same way that you expressed it. That perso

Re: [FLEAA] NiMH Patents

2008-04-24 Thread Andrew
Charles, OK, now I'm confused. If Gold Peak still has the legal right to produce large format NiMH batteries, why didn't Toyota just buy the batteries through them? Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Whalen Sent: Thursday, Apr

Re: [FLEAA] NiMH Patents

2008-04-24 Thread Charles Whalen
Andrew, I'm sorry, but I just don't have the time to continue this conversation anymore. I am completely swamped and backlogged with emails, and I have spent most of my day answering people's querries to me on this list. It's now half past midnight, and at the rate I am backlogged, I doubt I wil