Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Walter Knopf
Had a hard time to find your message since you didn't trim anything. I am an old fogey, with email addresses before the internet, (ARPANET, DECNET) yes, there was such a thing. We had netiquette, trim out everything that doesn't pertain to the message. Use text only, to keep those darn attachments

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Kris Coward
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 05:44:32PM -0400, Ben Okopnik wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 05:32:58PM -0400, Sam Densler wrote: > > Ben, > > It makes sense when there is a legitimate product offered for sale in > > the spam email but what about the emails that just have a link with no > > text, or a

Re: [Liveaboard] Battery wire terminal lugs

2012-09-05 Thread Jim Lynch
On 09/05/2012 02:25 PM, Philip wrote: I too have dealt with genuinedealz . They are a big eBay seller. Good service and products. -- S/V ORYOKI Philip & Marilyn Lange AE4OVKD4JRC Currently on the hill - Beaufort NC "There's no point in making a plan if you're no

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Walter Knopf
Sam, there is a whole cottage industry out there to collect email addresses thru screen scraping and other methods, then sell a CD with about a million verified addresses to the spammers. If a message is accepted by the smtp server and delivered to you it is verified, even if it ends up in your

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 05:32:58PM -0400, Sam Densler wrote: > Ben, > It makes sense when there is a legitimate product offered for sale in > the spam email but what about the emails that just have a link with no > text, or a bunch of nonsense, or I have even seen some with no link at > all. Ju

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Sam Densler
Ben, It makes sense when there is a legitimate product offered for sale in the spam email but what about the emails that just have a link with no text, or a bunch of nonsense, or I have even seen some with no link at all. Just seems like the intent is to piss people off but what is the financi

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 06:24:06PM +, Densler, Vernon R (AS) wrote: > You know what would be cool? If someone sent out a spam hocking Spam. > Anyone know where I can get Chinese Spam? I used to collect the various types, years ago, including Russian, Polish, and Hungarian (IIRC) spam advert

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 07:15:14PM +, Stephen Petri (@optonline.net) wrote: > Ben, if you did not intend to be disrespectful, you would have pulled > my email address and responded directly to me instead of through the > listserv. Err, no. You put out misleading information on the list; it nee

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Stephen Petri (@optonline.net)
Ben, if you did not intend to be disrespectful, you would have pulled my email address and responded directly to me instead of through the listserv. You also made an ignorant and completely false statement about my "competence" regarding this issue. You are not the only one on this list who ear

Re: [Liveaboard] Battery wire terminal lugs

2012-09-05 Thread Lee Haefele
I have had good service from Del City. Lee Haefele On Sep 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, "Norm" wrote: > > > Found a good source for the heavy ring terminals I am using for my new > battery installation. > > > I found some good battery terminals on line. > > Wire size 2/0, 3/8” stud, crimp t

Re: [Liveaboard] Battery wire terminal lugs

2012-09-05 Thread Philip
I too have dealt with genuinedealz. They are a big eBay seller. Good service and products. -- S/V ORYOKI Philip & Marilyn Lange AE4OVKD4JRC Currently on the hill - Beaufort NC "There's no point in making a plan if you're not going to pretend to follow it!" On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 13:27 -

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
You know what would be cool? If someone sent out a spam hocking Spam. Anyone know where I can get Chinese Spam? ___ Liveaboard mailing list Liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com To adjust your membership settings over the web http://liveaboardonline.com/ma

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Ben Okopnik
Hi, Sam - On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 01:45:51PM -0400, Sam Densler wrote: > OK Ben, a question for you... > > Other than being a pain In the butt, what benefit do these type of spammers > derive from such an activity. I understand some of the hoaxes that get folks > to give up username and passwo

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: A Hey

2012-09-05 Thread SteveW
A couple of years ago I thought you had mentioned you had access to a couple of discarded telephone poles! Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V -Original Message- From: Norm Sent: Wednesday, Sept

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Sam Densler
OK Ben, a question for you... Other than being a pain In the butt, what benefit do these type of spammers derive from such an activity. I understand some of the hoaxes that get folks to give up username and password for bank accounts and PayPal, but what was to be gained with an email like the

Re: [Liveaboard] Battery wire terminal lugs

2012-09-05 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 12:19:54PM -0400, Norm wrote: > > > Found a good source for the heavy ring terminals I am using for my new battery > installation. > > I found some good battery terminals on line. Oh, that reminds me - I've been using an excellent source for that kind of thing that I

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 12:23:43PM -0400, Norm wrote: > > Ben, > > Yes, it does seem that the spammers did get my address book because I am > getting bounced notices from addresses that are actually in my old address > book, addresses I have not had contact with for years in some cases. As I m

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Norm
Ben, Yes, it does seem that the spammers did get my address book because I am getting bounced notices from addresses that are actually in my old address book, addresses I have not had contact with for years in some cases. Norm Oh, dear. Stephen... I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but

[Liveaboard] Battery wire terminal lugs

2012-09-05 Thread Norm
Found a good source for the heavy ring terminals I am using for my new battery installation. I found some good battery terminals on line. Wire size 2/0, 3/8” stud, crimp type (I solder them on). DelCity.net part number 907455 $3.42 each They were half the cost of the only local source I c

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 03:23:47PM +, Stephen Petri (@optonline.net) wrote: > Change your EarthLink password to something difficult to guess. Passphrases > with numerals, symbols and alternating caps over 10 places work well. > > But change it quickly before the hijack the account. Oh, dear

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Norm
Done. Thanks for the reminder. I like to include symbols (lets me think I'm cussing at them) but Earthlink only allows letters and numbers. Norm Change your EarthLink password to something difficult to guess. Passphrases with numerals, symbols and alternating caps over 10 places work well

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Norm
Thanks for the reminder. Done. Norm Change your EarthLink password to something difficult to guess. Passphrases with numerals, symbols and alternating caps over 10 places work well. But change it quickly before the hijack the account. Stephen Petri __

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Stephen Petri (@optonline.net)
Change your EarthLink password to something difficult to guess. Passphrases with numerals, symbols and alternating caps over 10 places work well. But change it quickly before the hijack the account. Stephen Petri -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: A Hey

2012-09-05 Thread Sam Densler
Oh, this is going to be fun... Sam Densler Songwriters Island Radio www.songwriters-island.com S/V Lady of the Lake PDQ 36, Hull #15 Punta Gorda, FL http://www.islandfx.com/lady "If you ever wonder why you ride the carousel, you do it f

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: A Hey

2012-09-05 Thread Norm
I sure wish it were around in the early building days. If I had mixed Viagra with my concrete maybe I would have masts by now! Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek FL 30 23.8N 081 25.7W The major issue here is that it looks like Norm has had his email compromised in some way so tha

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey (OH OH! Norm Hacked!)

2012-09-05 Thread Norm
Ahoy Ben, >From the addresses I see on the spam filters bounced notices I have been receiving (over 100 so far) they got a copy of my address book from my old machine which I don't use for email any more since I got my new laptop. Some are very old addresses. They must have gotten them some ti

Re: [Liveaboard] New 2V House Batteries

2012-09-05 Thread Norm
Good question. I haven't asked Trojan but my guess is that they use the same cell tops on all their L16 cans and they all have three caps on them. Norm S/V Bandersnatch Lying Julington Creek FL 30 23.8N 081 25.7W - Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] New 2V House Batteries Bob wants to know why

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: A Hey

2012-09-05 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
I try. -Original Message- From: liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com [mailto:liveaboard-boun...@liveaboardonline.com] On Behalf Of SteveW Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:23 AM To: liveaboard@liveaboardonline.com Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: A Hey Boy, Vern, you just left t

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: A Hey

2012-09-05 Thread SteveW
Boy, Vern, you just left the door open for a seriously funny new thread!! Steve Weinstein S/V CAPTIVA 1997 Hunter 376, Hull #376 Sailing out of Oyster Bay, NY All outgoing mail protected by VIPRE A/V -Original Message- From: Densler, Vernon R (AS) Sent: Wednesday, September 0

Re: [Liveaboard] Ben's unsurprisingly erudite observations Re: A Hey

2012-09-05 Thread Ben Okopnik
[grin] I _do_ get carried away with the tech stuff, don't I? I was pretty heavily involved with that protocol change at one time, so it's a bit of a hot button for me: it was accepted, but actually getting it to happen, well... Seriously sucks, because it would have completely wrecked the spammers'

Re: [Liveaboard] EXT :Re: A Hey

2012-09-05 Thread Densler, Vernon R (AS)
The major issue here is that it looks like Norm has had his email compromised in some way so that the spammer was able to get his address book and start spoofing emails from him. My list server has no way of knowing if it is spam or if Norm really wants to tell us all how much he loves Viagra.

[Liveaboard] Ben's unsurprisingly erudite observations Re: A Hey

2012-09-05 Thread Skip Gundlach
So, the solution, regardless of, or, as in our case, even if you don't have one, your ISP, you should get and use a Gmail account - it's free... If you MUST have mail delivered to you via your ISP, GM will forward it to there for you. I use a client (Outlook Express on my XP computer, and WLMa

Re: [Liveaboard] A Hey

2012-09-05 Thread Ben Okopnik
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 06:41:44AM -0400, Lee Haefele wrote: > Doesn't the liveaboard list have a spam filter? My spam filter > rejects mail from a server that does not match the e.mail address. Unfortunately, that approach won't work here. [...] Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.ne