Re: Speaking Japanese (Re: Access Control Lists and Functions)

2001-01-15 Thread Philip Newton
Aaron Trevena wrote: > does lingua::nadsat exist yet? or anything along those lines? Er, what's nadsat? Cheers, Philip

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Philip Newton
Robin Houston wrote: > Lingua::Romana::Perligata :-) > > I don't know when the module was actually released onto CPAN, > but I saw it for the first time at the weekend. It is ... > staggering ... > > Anyone written any programs using it? Yes. I converted a little script I have that puts some

Re: Perl commandments -> index .vs. //

2001-01-15 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, you wrote: > push @ARGV, '/usr/dict/words'; which reminds me .. is there a /usr/dict/words with correct spellings for english out there somwhere??? ... -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!

Re: Perl commandments -> index .vs. //

2001-01-15 Thread Chris Benson
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 12:50:08PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: > David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Also index. These two snippets are equivalent: > > if($foo=~/foo/) { ... } > > if(index($foo, 'foo')!=-1) { ... } > > I always want to do just plain if(index(...)) though. > > ISTR

Re: Speaking Japanese (Re: Access Control Lists and Functions)

2001-01-15 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:51:38PM +, Aaron Trevena wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Andy Wardley wrote: > > > On Jan 15, 4:24pm, Robin Houston wrote: > > > Lingua::Romana::Perligata :-) > > > > Conway-san, your programming challenge for this week is: > > > >Lingua::Nihon::Perldes > >

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 06:04:42PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > "David H. Adler" wrote: > > > Shall I enquire at NY.pm tomorrow about demand? > > Yup. Might eb up for doing anohter run if necessary. > > Plus I have some other ideas. I think this is one of those instances were discretion is the

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > "David H. Adler" wrote: > > > Shall I enquire at NY.pm tomorrow about demand? > > Yup. Might eb up for doing anohter run if necessary. > > Plus I have some other ideas. Apparently Amsterdam.pm are looking for a design for YAPC::Europe 2001 ;-) howev

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
"David H. Adler" wrote: > Shall I enquire at NY.pm tomorrow about demand? Yup. Might eb up for doing anohter run if necessary. Plus I have some other ideas.

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 10:42:34AM +, Steve Mynott wrote: > "David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Oh, you're much too kind. My redhat box is disintigrating before my > > very eyes. root partition filled up for no reason and, thus I looked > > at the partition table: > > > >

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 11:37:57AM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > David Hodgkinson wrote: > > > Can I reserve 2 to go to the States? I guess I should enquire about > > sizes... > > Sure, no problem. Shall I enquire at NY.pm tomorrow about demand? -- David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http:/

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Mark Fowler
> Dieing's probably a bad idea. The idea was for it to set an error stack > so that even if you were using this module you would do stuff like > > my $do = new DO; > $do->something(); > warn ACL::last_error()."\n" if ACL::error(); > > which would print out something like "Access

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:53:57PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > I started learning Japanese when the NI administration decided to teach > > it to joint classes of catholic children and protestant children. Hence > > it was a good way to meet a brand n

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Tony Bowden
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:53:57PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > I started learning Japanese when the NI administration decided to teach > it to joint classes of catholic children and protestant children. Hence > it was a good way to meet a brand new batch of girls. I stopped soon after. Hey ...

``OT'' : the worst british horror film ever

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
With acting that would make Pervirella seem good, i have found what without a shadow of a doubt is the worst horror film ever. Described as ... "The Most Impressive Genre Debut In Years!", by DARKSIDE magazine and "A Gem!", by SHIVERS magazine not to mention, "Fast, Furious, Funky! The Futur

Re: Speaking Japanese (Re: Access Control Lists and Functions)

2001-01-15 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Andy Wardley wrote: > On Jan 15, 4:24pm, Robin Houston wrote: > > Lingua::Romana::Perligata :-) > > Conway-san, your programming challenge for this week is: > >Lingua::Nihon::Perldes > > (but with an English <-> Japanese translation interface for those of > us who d

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Robin Houston
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 05:17:08PM +, Marcel Grunauer wrote: > > Sounds like the business. There have been quite a number of Perl modules > lately that are more about the syntax and the way the language is being > used than for any specific tasks, such as: Lingua::Romana::Perligata :-) I

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Leon Brocard
Marcel Grunauer sent the following bits through the ether: > Do it like Memoize.pm (i.e., generalize the wrapper mechanism or just nick ... http://search.cpan.org/doc/JDPORTER/Hook-WrapSub-0.03/lib/Hook/WrapSub.pm Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Eu

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Matthew Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >In my case, Japanese was very much the latter. I have deep respect > >for anyone who can master it. > > The only Japanese I know: > > "Anata no zubon wa taihen kirena desu!" > the only japanese i know is - hi, i don't think i've spoke to you be

RE: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Matthew Jones
>In my case, Japanese was very much the latter. I have deep respect >for anyone who can master it. The only Japanese I know: "Anata no zubon wa taihen kirena desu!" Not many applications. -- matt "What? I don't speak your crazy moon-language."

RE: Super Perl Sites

2001-01-15 Thread Jonathan Peterson
> > Slashdot? If the guy in question has never _heared_ of Perl, I'm not sure Slashdot will mean much to him..

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Andy Wardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Jan 15, 1:50pm, Simon Wistow wrote: > > Something like that, probably called it Symbol::ACL or summat. I'll > > stick it in my todo list right after Flash stuff, Mail::Hotmail, > > Net::IP2LL, Fuky widget set thingy, WMLScript compiler in Perl and >

Re: Super Perl Sites

2001-01-15 Thread David Hodgkinson
James Royan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I've got a couple of not-too-clued-up investors hanging around who haven't > heard of Perl before. > > When I explained that Perl was a key technology behind something like 50% of > all ecommerce web sites (I had to make up a number) they asked

Re: OT : DVD

2001-01-15 Thread mallum
Yes its the DVD version. At the front of the shop, think they were about 15 quid each. On the subject of games, anyone see the 'bits' special on C4 the weekend about violent games - its was pretty good for 'bits' ? mallum On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:22:39PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * mal

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Andy Wardley
On Jan 15, 1:50pm, Simon Wistow wrote: > Something like that, probably called it Symbol::ACL or summat. I'll > stick it in my todo list right after Flash stuff, Mail::Hotmail, > Net::IP2LL, Fuky widget set thingy, WMLScript compiler in Perl and > learning Japanese. I started learning Japanese wh

Re: Super Perl Sites

2001-01-15 Thread Philip Newton
Philip Newton wrote: > James Royan wrote: > > Just so that I get my facts straight, could the list suggest > > maybe 4 or 5 really well known sites that I could point to > > which are definitely known to use Perl in a big way? > > Besides Blackstar? :-) > > This question was posted to clpmisc (

Re: OT : DVD

2001-01-15 Thread Richard Clamp
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:12:12PM -0500, mallum wrote: > some > wierd hologram based game which I can nearly remember. Time traveller - SEGA's 3d effect doodad. I wasted money on it in my youth, but only to try and see the effect. I gav

Re: OT : DVD

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* James Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > You can't beat marble madness for old arcade games though... > and it runs nicely in MAME. > apparently its one of the most in demand video game cabinet/controller combo's as the whell broke so much -- Greg McCarroll http:

Re: OT : DVD

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* mallum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I've seen this in electronics botique on Oxford Street. > as in the DVD version to be run on a DVD player? as for it being bad gameplay i don't really care i just want it for historic sake - if i wanted gameplay i'd play NetHack, phear me and my B,Fp,+3 BDSM

Re: OT : DVD

2001-01-15 Thread James Powell
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 04:12:12PM -0500, mallum wrote: > I've seen this in electronics botique on Oxford Street. > > You can also get the sequal to dragons lair (space something...?) and a some > wierd hologram based game which I can nearly remember. Space Ace! What's wrong with the 6-floppy m

Re: OT : DVD

2001-01-15 Thread mallum
I've seen this in electronics botique on Oxford Street. You can also get the sequal to dragons lair (space something...?) and a some wierd hologram based game which I can nearly remember. Beware however, Some Playstation II magazine reviewed these and gave them either 1 or 0 out of 10. Im wait

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 09:26:40AM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote: > An entity claiming to be David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > : And as a matter of fact, I *did* check the script by hand before piping it > : in to a shell. Mainly out of interest to see how it did it rather than because I

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
Mark Fowler wrote: > May I suggest that we die at this point? And throw a Error::AccessDenyed > object or something? Dieing's probably a bad idea. The idea was for it to set an error stack so that even if you were using this module you would do stuff like my $do = new DO; $do->so

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Robin Houston
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 02:29:38PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > How would the user get round this? I mean sure they could if they had > access to the source code but ... > > > I'm writing something at the moment that's got lots of > > > sub do_summat > { > my ($self, $userid, $arg1, $ar

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread Mark Rogaski
An entity claiming to be David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : : And as a matter of fact, I *did* check the script by hand before piping it : in to a shell. Of course, that still doesn't help when it comes to : verifying all the binaries involved. Perhaps you're saying we should : never i

Re: Super Perl Sites

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
> http://perl.apache.org/stories/ Specifically http://perl.apache.org/stories/winamillion.html Makes me laugh anyway.

Re: Super Perl Sites

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
James Royan wrote: > > Hi, > > I've got a couple of not-too-clued-up investors hanging around who haven't > heard of Perl before. > > When I explained that Perl was a key technology behind something like 50% of > all ecommerce web sites (I had to make up a number) they asked for some > high-pro

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
Robin Houston wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 12:31:17PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > > basically it automagically intercepts subroutine calls and checks to see > > if the current user has permissions for the subroutine and returns undef > > if you don't have access to it. You could also exte

RE: Super Perl Sites

2001-01-15 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 15 January 2001 14:24 > James Royan wrote: > > Just so that I get my facts straight, could the list suggest > > maybe 4 or 5 really well known sites that I could point to > > which are definitely known to use Perl in a big way? > > Besides Blackstar

Re: Super Perl Sites

2001-01-15 Thread Philip Newton
James Royan wrote: > Just so that I get my facts straight, could the list suggest > maybe 4 or 5 really well known sites that I could point to > which are definitely known to use Perl in a big way? Besides Blackstar? :-) This question was posted to clpmisc (I think. Or maybe de.clpmisc) just a

Super Perl Sites

2001-01-15 Thread James Royan
Hi, I've got a couple of not-too-clued-up investors hanging around who haven't heard of Perl before. When I explained that Perl was a key technology behind something like 50% of all ecommerce web sites (I had to make up a number) they asked for some high-profile examples. Just so that I get my

Re: Funky Interfaces - an idea

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
Marcel Grunauer wrote: > You want Gtk. > OTOH, you want Java Swing and its event system. Something like that. In a nutshell it's a widegt set like GTK but with the Java/VB event model but looking like Flash.

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
David Cantrell wrote: > Let me guess, you're thinking of adapting our Illustrious Leader's > Sub::Whateveritscalledthisweek to do this? Sounds ... interesting. Something like that, probably called it Symbol::ACL or summat. I'll stick it in my todo list right after Flash stuff, Mail::Hotmail, Ne

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread Redvers Davies
> programs together, but I increasingly see it as a rather hackish peculiarity > of unix as opposed to a design strength. And it seems more hackish with each > passing year. This kind of stuff is groovy for sysadmin and local automation > but I don't like it in widely distributed stuff. As languag

Re: Access Control Lists and Functions

2001-01-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 12:31:17PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > Sorry to go off topic and talk about Perl briefly but I need some > opinions about something I had an idea about when going home pissed last > night and I'm still too hungover to decide whether I'm crack fuelled or > not. Yep, defin

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread Philip Newton
Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > David Cantrell wrote: > > > And even CPAN counts as untrusted and unverified - how am I > > > to tell that $random_mirror has not been compromised? > > > > Heck, how can you tell that the super module someone told > > you ab

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > David Cantrell wrote: > > And even CPAN counts as untrusted and unverified - how am I > > to tell that $random_mirror has not been compromised? > > Heck, how can you tell that the super module someone told you about or you > found through search.cpan.

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread Philip Newton
David Cantrell wrote: > And even CPAN counts as untrusted and unverified - how am I > to tell that $random_mirror has not been compromised? Heck, how can you tell that the super module someone told you about or you found through search.cpan.org doesn't contain a trojan in its Makefile.PL? Cheer

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread David Hodgkinson
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Hodgkinson wrote: > > > Can I reserve 2 to go to the States? I guess I should enquire about > > sizes... > > Sure, no problem. > > You coming to the Technical Meeting on Thursday? Yes. Probably. -- Dave Hodgkinson,

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 10:58:36AM +, Simon Wistow wrote: > Sorry they never got over to the states ... I checked with the Post > oFfice and the cost was going to be ridiculous to send them Data Post or > whatever it's called. And because of (and here I quote the guy behind > the counter when

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
David Hodgkinson wrote: > Can I reserve 2 to go to the States? I guess I should enquire about > sizes... Sure, no problem. You coming to the Technical Meeting on Thursday?

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 11:26:28PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote: > > It's also sheer idiocy to pipe arbitrary code from an untrusted, unverified > > source directly to the shell. > > How is it less secure than downloading a tar file and typing ./configu

RE: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread Jonathan Peterson
> How is it less secure than downloading a tar file and typing > ./configure? It's not, I suppose, but it's annoying in a unixy kind of way. I used to think it was really cool the way you could chain lots of little unixy programs together, but I increasingly see it as a rather hackish peculiarity

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread David Hodgkinson
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Hodgkinson wrote: > > > Are there any of these left? > > Yeah, I've got about 10 or so left I think. Can I reserve 2 to go to the States? I guess I should enquire about sizes... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodg

Re: PIMB T-shirts

2001-01-15 Thread Simon Wistow
David Hodgkinson wrote: > Are there any of these left? Yeah, I've got about 10 or so left I think. Sorry they never got over to the states ... I checked with the Post oFfice and the cost was going to be ridiculous to send them Data Post or whatever it's called. And because of (and here I quote

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread Michael Stevens
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 11:26:28PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote: > It's also sheer idiocy to pipe arbitrary code from an untrusted, unverified > source directly to the shell. How is it less secure than downloading a tar file and typing ./configure? Admittedly you *could* check several meg of source

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread Steve Mynott
"David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:19:18PM -0600, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > It continues to amaze me that people still use Red Hat. It's > > just a pile of marketing driven crap. > > Oh, you're much too kind. My redhat box is disintigrating before my > ver

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 10:20:02AM +, David Cantrell wrote: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 11:26:28PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote: > > > It's also sheer idiocy to pipe arbitrary code from an untrusted, unverified > > source directly to the shell. > > Of course, it's equally stupid to install softwar

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread David Cantrell
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 11:26:28PM -0500, Mark Rogaski wrote: > An entity claiming to be David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > : It's more than cute. It's *BRILLIANT*. The user doesn't even have to > : know what computer they have. Whilst they only support a couple of > : combinations

RE: Forthcoming Meetings - Summary

2001-01-15 Thread dcross - David Cross
From: Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 15 January 2001 08:20 > Get Pine for windows - it can read exchange mail just fine. > Though I'm sure we've been here before. Yeah, we have. But I've never succeeded in getting in configured to work with Exchange. Any pointers to info would be gra

RE: Forthcoming Meetings - Summary

2001-01-15 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: > > p.s. Roger, I have set up a .sig containing the .sig separator, but Outlook > insists on putting it at the top of replies! I'll try to remember to add it > manually until I can come up with a less frustrating solution. > Get Pine for windows -

Re: Mailman in Perl (Re: the list is dead, long live the list)

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Mark Rogaski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > An entity claiming to be David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > : > : It's more than cute. It's *BRILLIANT*. The user doesn't even have to > : know what computer they have. Whilst they only support a couple of > : combinations of architecture an

Re: Kung Foo and PIMB

2001-01-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > P.S. PINE may be silly, but the multiple reply option rocks. > err *clickity click*, guess what i just discovered mutt could do ;-) * Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > This reminds me of the conversation Case, norm & I had after crouchi