Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 06:12:26PM +, Dave Cross wrote: > This really is ancient history. I think it was very soon after the mailing > list started up (so well over four years ago). > > My copy of that mailbox has long since gone awol, but some of the other > pioneers might well have a copy.

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread robin szemeti
On Tuesday 04 February 2003 19:25, Paul Makepeace wrote: > I must say, I have always thought Streetmap sucks. IMO: It's ugly, its > parser is atrociously bad, and IME it often can't find addresses that > other sites can. also .. the others seem to be able to go to a particular zoom size just-lik

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Chris Heathcote
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:25:27 +, Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The absolutely only selling point I can see for SM is their <80char >URLs. Any others? Better quality maps? http://uk.maps.yahoo.com/py/lg:uk/lc:uk/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=&city=London&state=&slt=51.505800&sln=-0.096100&n

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote: > Any reason you didn't Cc: her on the list > post? Surely good to let someone know they are being discussed in a > public, archived forum... Well, it seems she misunderstood both what was written ("caching location" != "caching map") and also had an issu

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Paul Makepeace
This is disappointing. Oh well, it's everyone's preserve to do what they will with their own product, however much it appears to be pointing a loaded gun at their foot. Any reason you didn't Cc: her on the list post? Surely good to let someone know they are being discussed in a public, archived for

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Steve Mynott
Nicholas Clark wrote: On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 04:56:53PM +, Jonathan Peterson wrote: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/disclaimer.htm makes for interesting reading. Particularly, "Otherwise the reproduction, copying, downloading, storage, recording, broadcasting, retransmission and distribution of

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Dave Cross
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 05:14:57PM +, Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Simon Batistoni sent the following bits through the ether: > > > I ended up putting the code into a module, WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap, > > A long, long time ago, I remember London.pm offering to help Streetmap > imp

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Simon Batistoni
On 04/02/03 17:30 +, Mark Fowler wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Simon Batistoni wrote: > > > Tale of woe > > May I suggest that we see what other providers exist for the UK and see if > any of them would be happy for us to implement their interface instead. > > Yahoo! springs to mind. It's ad

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Mark Fowler
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Simon Batistoni wrote: > Tale of woe May I suggest that we see what other providers exist for the UK and see if any of them would be happy for us to implement their interface instead. Yahoo! springs to mind. Mark. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -T use strict; use warnings; print q{Mar

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Simon Batistoni wrote: > As I say, I don't have the energy to fight it out with them. If others > really valued the facilities of Streetmap.pm, then they can always > mail Kate Sutton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] btek.co.uk doesn't appear to be an active domain, looks like btex.co.uk

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Simon Batistoni
On 04/02/03 16:56 +, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > [small quantities of Devil's advocacy included] And more than welcome. I only wish I could have had this conversation with them directly. > Did it internally respect, or optionally allow its users to respect, the > robot exclusion protocols? I

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Leon Brocard
Simon Batistoni sent the following bits through the ether: > I ended up putting the code into a module, WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap, A long, long time ago, I remember London.pm offering to help Streetmap improve their site as it was painfully slow at the time. The discussions went on for a bit, but n

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/disclaimer.htm makes for interesting > > reading. Particularly, "Otherwise the reproduction, copying, > > downloading, storage, recording, broadcasting, retransmission and > > distribution of any part of the Streetmap site

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 04:56:53PM +, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > http://www.streetmap.co.uk/disclaimer.htm makes for interesting > > reading. Particularly, "Otherwise the reproduction, copying, > > downloading, storage, recording, broadcasting, retransmission and > > distribution of any part

Re: WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Jonathan Peterson
[small quantities of Devil's advocacy included] It was a basic screenscraper really, that used the page at Anyway, various people appear to have found the module useful for bot projects, and things like GrubStreet. Did it internally respect, or optionally allow its users to respect, the robot

WWW::Map::UK::Streetmap - A tale of woe

2003-02-04 Thread Simon Batistoni
So, back in the summer, I was fiddling with some bot-related code, and site-related stuff that needed easy access to streetmap URLs - you know, the kind of thing that you post in a mail when you want people to find a pub and drink too much beer with you. I ended up putting the code into a module,

Re: Open Source E-commerce

2003-02-04 Thread Shevek
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 12:46:43PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: > > Shevek wrote: > > > > What we ought to do is actually support and advertise the stronger > > > packages we have available to us. I think that there is far too much > > > religion involved

Re: yapi / photo organisers

2003-02-04 Thread Chris Heathcote
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:37:49 +, Andy Wardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Did you try reading the INSTALL file? :-) yes, tyvmfa ;) > perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/home/abw/ Tried this. It seems to make and install (well, it barfs where i expect it to), but scripts can't seem to find it (I k

Re: yapi / photo organisers

2003-02-04 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Roger Horne wrote: > HE used to be very cheap compared with UK sites and was often recommended > on London PM. The prices charged by http://www.OneandOne.co.uk (from 29 > quid) for managed/root "dedicated" servers now appear to be rather better > value. Are they, or is there a

Re: yapi / photo organisers

2003-02-04 Thread Roger Horne
On Mon 03 Feb, Chris Heathcote wrote: > Can anyone suggest an online web photo organiser, like yapi(2), but > that doesn't require Template Toolkit and other shenanigans? I'm > trying to install on my webspace at he.net, so no root stuff. > > Otherwise, how to install TT as non-root would be F.A.

Re: yapi / photo organisers

2003-02-04 Thread Andy Wardley
Chris Heathcote wrote: > Otherwise, how to install TT as non-root would be F.A.B. Did you try reading the INSTALL file? :-) The 'make install' will install the modules and scripts on your system. You may need administrator privileges to perform this task. Alternately you can can instal

Re: yapi / photo organisers

2003-02-04 Thread Paul Mison
On 03/02/2003 at 23:26 +, robin szemeti wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 18:41, Chris Heathcote wrote: Hello Can anyone suggest an online web photo organiser, like yapi(2), but that doesn't require Template Toolkit and other shenanigans? I'm trying to install on my webspace at he.net, s