My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread David Dorward
Nicholas Clark wrote: So we will all have to ask you what it's like... Is it a company on this list? http://london.pm.org/advocacy/ No, its a, um, er, Django shop. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

Re: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009

2009-01-05 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:16:53AM +, David Dorward wrote: David Dorward wrote: Hmm, I think that is on the way home from the job I start on Monday. Nice choice :) No! My brain is not functioning! The 8th is before next Monday! Your heretical brain thinks that there should be a

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Tony Kennick
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:56:02PM +, the following was promulgated by Jasper: Cycling in London isn't bad, as long as you don't do anything stupid, like riding up the inside of a large lorry where the driver can't see you. You do get the odd shit of a bus driver, too. I think everyone

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Jasper
2009/1/5 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:13:48PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote: Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any commentary from anyone who hasn't

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread David Dorward
Sue Spence wrote: I'm just kidding of course. Congrats. Thanks Work is good, and so are new experiences I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first time. Is that good? -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Simon Wilcox es...@ourshack.com wrote: Robert Shiels wrote: I would love to have a go on a Strida so that I could give an opinion - I had a go on Paul's a few years ago and even though I'm only a couple of inches taller than he is (I'm 6' 4) it made a huge

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Peter Corlett
On 5 Jan 2009, at 14:13, Paul Makepeace wrote: [...] Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London. Although if one is built like a typical programmer note that Notting Hill is actually on top of a

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Denny
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 14:13 +, Paul Makepeace wrote: Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London. P, one minor accident in six years; 6,000+miles covered; god knows how much time saved I was

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread James Laver
On 2009-01-05 13:06, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: Sue Spence wrote: I'm just kidding of course. Congrats. Thanks Work is good, and so are new experiences I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first time. Is that good? It certainly qualifies as an

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Peter Corlett
On 5 Jan 2009, at 13:06, David Dorward wrote: [...] I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first time. Is that good? That lovely yellow circle on the Tube map looks awfully convenient to get around central London, but don't be tempted. What with passenger incidents,

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:13:48PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote: Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London. Seconded. Advice from a relatively new cyclist on request, or distilled at

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Robert Shiels
Paul Makepeace wrote: Cool. As a two-time Strida owner I can assure you they are most certainly _not_ gimmick bikes, esp. considering they've won a whole bunch of folding competitions beating Bromptons for folding speed I would love to have a go on a Strida so that I could give an opinion -

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Simon Wilcox
Robert Shiels wrote: I would love to have a go on a Strida so that I could give an opinion - I had a go on Paul's a few years ago and even though I'm only a couple of inches taller than he is (I'm 6' 4) it made a huge amount of difference, from really useful to very unstable with my knees

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:53 PM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: Peter Corlett wrote: I *strongly* suggest you look for a different route. TfL's route planner comes up with sensible routings once you disable busses. (When enabled, it seems to prefer to route people via bus where

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 5 Jan 2009, at 15:36, Jasper wrote: 2009/1/5 Tony Kennick 0995a06aaeaf6b70e79c3aafd6719...@half.pint.org.uk : On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:56:02PM +, the following was promulgated by Jasper: Cycling in London isn't bad, as long as you don't do anything stupid, like riding up the

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Jasper
2009/1/5 Tony Kennick 0995a06aaeaf6b70e79c3aafd6719...@half.pint.org.uk: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:56:02PM +, the following was promulgated by Jasper: Cycling in London isn't bad, as long as you don't do anything stupid, like riding up the inside of a large lorry where the driver can't

Re: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009

2009-01-05 Thread David Dorward
Nicholas Clark wrote: Your heretical brain thinks that there should be a social on the 3rd Thursday of the month? No, it thought that the Thursday after the first Wednesday of this month takes place in a week and a half's time. Or your ultra-orthodox brain thinks that there should be a

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread David Dorward
Peter Corlett wrote: Although if one is built like a typical programmer note that Notting Hill is actually on top of a hill, and it's not just a pretty place name. Eeep. :) Also, I would assume that the journey doesn't actually start in Waterloo, but on an incoming South West Cattletruck

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Peter Corlett
On 5 Jan 2009, at 14:17, Joel Bernstein wrote: [...] Rush hour on the deeplying tube lines is harmful to sanity. Be tall, large, wearing lots of black, carry earplugs and a solid book, and not be afraid to trample over people to get a seat, then they're just fine. If you think the

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Struan Donald
* at 05/01 14:39 + Paul Makepeace said: If you're going multi-modal folding bikes are the only way to go, IMO. (I've heard awful things about Dahon though, btw.) FWIW: I had a terrible experience with Bikefix, to the point of having me give them another, rhyming name... The advice I had

Re: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009

2009-01-05 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:02:05AM +, David Dorward wrote: Edmund von der Burg wrote: Where are we going then? I've always liked this place: http://london.pm.org/meetings/locations/antelope.html Hmm, I think that is on the way home from the job I start on Monday. Nice choice :)

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Randy J. Ray
Work is good, and so are new experiences I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first time. Is that good? It certainly qualifies as an experience...* Hmmm... in the sense, Experience is what you get, when you don't get what you want. -- Randy J. Ray Sunnyvale,

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Sue Spence
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: Nicholas Clark wrote: So we will all have to ask you what it's like... Is it a company on this list? http://london.pm.org/advocacy/ No, its a, um, er, Django shop. sharp intake of breath I'm just kidding

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread David Dorward
Peter Corlett wrote: I *strongly* suggest you look for a different route. TfL's route planner comes up with sensible routings once you disable busses. (When enabled, it seems to prefer to route people via bus where possible, presumably for traffic engineering or revenue maximisation reasons.)

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Joel Bernstein
2009/1/5 David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk: The alternatives would be, IIRC, to take the N. Line to TCR then change to the central line, or to take the Jubilee from Waterloo and get to the central line from there. (Target: Notting Hill Gate). Have you considered a bicycle? Perhaps a folding

Re: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009

2009-01-05 Thread David Dorward
David Dorward wrote: Hmm, I think that is on the way home from the job I start on Monday. Nice choice :) No! My brain is not functioning! The 8th is before next Monday! !! -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Jasper jaspermcc...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/5 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:13:48PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote: Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your

Re: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009

2009-01-05 Thread Ovid
- Original Message From: Edmund von der Burg edmund.vonderb...@gmail.com Hurrah! I'll be there. I'll be there, too. I've a bad habit of not checking my calendar. I need to stop that, but a New Year's resolution is just made to be broken. (This year, I resolve to wean myself

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Kieren Diment
On 06/01/2009, at 1:20 AM, Peter Corlett wrote: On 5 Jan 2009, at 14:13, Paul Makepeace wrote: [...] Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London. Although if one is built like a typical programmer

Re: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009

2009-01-05 Thread Billy Abbott
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, David Dorward wrote: Nicholas Clark wrote: Your heretical brain thinks that there should be a social on the 3rd Thursday of the month? No, it thought that the Thursday after the first Wednesday of this month takes place in a week and a half's time. Or your ultra-orthodox

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Chris Jack
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:30 AM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: No, its a, um, er, Django shop. You wouldn't be a coffin-dragging gunslinger by any chance? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060315/ _ Are you a PC? 

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Peter Corlett
On 5 Jan 2009, at 13:53, David Dorward wrote: Peter Corlett wrote: I *strongly* suggest you look for a different route. TfL's route planner comes up with sensible routings once you disable busses. (When enabled, it seems to prefer to route people via bus where possible, presumably for

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Roger Burton West ro...@firedrake.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:13:48PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote: Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London. Seconded.

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:06:02PM +, David Dorward wrote: Sue Spence wrote: I'm just kidding of course. Congrats. Thanks Work is good, and so are new experiences I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first time. Is that good? Get a bike. And you know the

Old memes (was Re: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread David Dorward
Billy Abbott wrote: (I like cake http://flickr.com/photos/cowfish/185568346/) The cake is a lie. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:56:02PM +, Jasper wrote: Cycling in London isn't bad, as long as you don't do anything stupid, like riding up the inside of a large lorry where the driver can't see you. You do get the odd shit of a bus driver, too. What, like the ones that actually want to get

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 5 Jan 2009, at 20:59, David Cantrell wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 01:06:02PM +, David Dorward wrote: Sue Spence wrote: I'm just kidding of course. Congrats. Thanks Work is good, and so are new experiences I'm going to experience the Circle Line at rush hour for the first time.

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Dominic Thoreau
2009/1/5 Kieren Diment dim...@gmail.com: Typical programmers come in two distinct groups - large, or wiry. The muscle density on the wiry ones is actually quite high ;) Bah I say - not everything's black and white like that. And I say that as a possibly ambidextrous dev (who's trying to

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread James Duncan
On 5-Jan-09, at 4:42 PM, Chisel Wright wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 08:59:24PM +, David Cantrell wrote: And you know the Circle line's bad when a fat bastard like *me* says that. The Circle Line was one of my reasons for getting a foldy. The Circle Line was one of my reasons for

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:54 PM, James Duncan ja...@reasonablysmart.com wrote: On 5-Jan-09, at 4:42 PM, Chisel Wright wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 08:59:24PM +, David Cantrell wrote: And you know the Circle line's bad when a fat bastard like *me* says that. The Circle Line was one of

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 5 Jan 2009, at 22:08, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:54 PM, James Duncan ja...@reasonablysmart.com wrote: On 5-Jan-09, at 4:42 PM, Chisel Wright wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 08:59:24PM +, David Cantrell wrote: And you know the Circle line's bad when a fat bastard

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Avleen Vig
On Jan 5, 2009, at 9:30, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: Nicholas Clark wrote: So we will all have to ask you what it's like... Is it a company on this list? http://london.pm.org/advocacy/ No, its a, um, er, Django shop. What a strange coincedence. I start at a Django shop on

Re: Perl is Alive! (Dispatch war rocket AJAX...)

2009-01-05 Thread muppet
Finally slogging through my mail backlog after the holidays, and i find this: On Dec 10, 2008, at 4:41 AM, Andy Wardley wrote: PS I think we should make Perl is Alive! the unoffical secret verbal handshake by which Perl mongers make themselves known to each other (spoken in the style of

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Philip Newton
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 17:59, Mark Overmeer m...@overmeer.net wrote: My first Brompton lasted over six years of heavy duty (although the cycling conditions in Holland are a bit better than in the UK). No serious troubles, no accidents. The wheelbase (the distance between the front and back