Re: Perl T-shirts

2010-02-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 11:39 +, James Laver wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:53:19AM +, Paul LeoNerd Evans wrote: I have come to the shocking realisation that I don't actually own any t-shirts relating to Perl. Would anyone have any suggestions on what to buy and from where,

Re: More Live Rabid Gravy!

2010-01-08 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 15:47 +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Hi, Just in case you may have missed it elsewhere I'm doing a Rabid Gravy gig this Saturday, 9th January at The Deptford Arms, Deptford High Street from 20:00. Entry is Free. Remember you lovely people, this is tomorrow! Hopefully

More Live Rabid Gravy!

2010-01-05 Thread Jonathan Stowe
Hi, Just in case you may have missed it elsewhere I'm doing a Rabid Gravy gig this Saturday, 9th January at The Deptford Arms, Deptford High Street from 20:00. Entry is Free. Should be a great night and hope to see a good crowd there. Deptford Arms:

Re: Monads are like burritos

2009-12-15 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:18 +, Paul Makepeace wrote: * Seriously, where in London sells decent burritos?! There's a place in Berwick Street (just North of Broadwick street on the right) it was good while I was working round the corner a year or so ago. /J\ -- Rabid Gravy:

Re: Help me become a Londoner!

2009-11-27 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 17:45 +, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 03:38:34PM +, Tom Barrett wrote: 2009/11/20 James Laver james.la...@gmail.com FWIW, I'm finding Lloyds to provide an acceptable level of service for After my personal experience with Lloyds, I rank them as

Re: Help me become a Londoner!

2009-11-25 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 12:31 +, Dirk Koopman wrote: Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 15:10 +, Roger Burton West wrote: All we have is a 2 deck gun in the yard of a hire shop. On the road between Wells and Glastonbury there is an architectural salvage place

Re: Live Rabid!

2009-11-24 Thread Jonathan Stowe
I know at least three of you made it down there and lovely it was to see you too. If you want to capture the flavour of my set then check out: http://soundcloud.com/rabidgravy/rabid-gravy-live-set-20091119 It's horrible but hey :-) /J\ On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 10:46 +, Jonathan Stowe wrote

Re: Help me become a Londoner!

2009-11-24 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 15:10 +, Roger Burton West wrote: All we have is a 2 deck gun in the yard of a hire shop. On the road between Wells and Glastonbury there is an architectural salvage place with a Bloodhound missile. -- Rabid Gravy:http://rabidgravy.com/ On Soundcloud:

Re: Live Rabid!

2009-11-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
This is this evening! If you're going to Dim Sum you can jump on the tube straight to Balham afterwards and sample some of the excellent hostelries in the area in the afternoon ;-) Love to see you all there. On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 10:46 +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Hi, If for some reason you

Re: Live Rabid!

2009-11-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
Just a reminder that this is tomorrow! On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 10:46 +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Hi, If for some reason you have managed to avoid this elsewhere I thought I would make a suggestion for your entertainment this coming Thursday. On Thursday 19th November I will be playing

Re: Live Rabid!

2009-11-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 11:22 +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 18 Nov 2009, at 09:42, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Just a reminder that this is tomorrow! On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 10:46 +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Hi, If for some reason you have managed to avoid this elsewhere I thought I

Live Rabid!

2009-11-16 Thread Jonathan Stowe
Hi, If for some reason you have managed to avoid this elsewhere I thought I would make a suggestion for your entertainment this coming Thursday. On Thursday 19th November I will be playing (as Rabid Gravy) the usual noise with beats in it at: Alter Ega 191 Balham High Road London SW17 Also on

Re: Genius plan for the website!

2009-07-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/7/3 Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com: On 3 Jul 2009, at 12:32, Edmund von der Burg wrote:  3) tiny, simple, bulletproof script to take templates and generate html pages Apache::Template FTW! Then cache on the front. I hear that pastel-like seaside shades are very much in vogue

Re: Genius plan for the website!

2009-07-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/7/3 Edmund von der Burg e...@ecclestoad.co.uk: 2009/7/3 James Laver james.la...@gmail.com: On 3 Jul 2009, at 12:32, Edmund von der Burg wrote: Here is my cunning plan to regain the inner beauty:  1) wget -r the current site to a bunch of static files We have a bunch of static files.

Re: Anniversary Beer - Shovels needed

2009-06-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/6/26 James Laver james.la...@gmail.com: I got a call from the brewery this morning and they're not prepared to deliver to paddington for our next social, leaving us a little bit in the shit. Anyone got a shovel? I've formulated the following devious plans: 1. a kind, friendly soul with

Re: Learn Perl in Lisbon

2009-06-24 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/6/24 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com: 2009/6/24 Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk: On 24/06/2009 10:37, Dave Cross wrote: The conference costs EUR 100 and the two day training course is EUR 200. It's all ridiculously cheap. Er... the two day training course is EUR 220. (FWIW, you can get a

Re: How we see CVs

2009-04-02 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/4/1 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com: This is great, http://www.hanovsolutions.com/resume_comic.png I thought we had banned jokes on the list on the grounds that it discriminated against those without a sense of humour ... /J\ -- http://rabidgravy.com/ - Music http://gellyfish.co.uk/ -

Re: Recession rates

2009-03-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/3/10 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com: Has anyone found the recession/depression affecting contracting rates? I was surprised to have a recruiter recently suggest a bunch of candidates for £375/day (each :-)). This seems on the high side, even outside of the economic blues. I guess what

Re: Recession rates

2009-03-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/3/10 Aaron Trevena aaron.trev...@gmail.com: 2009/3/10 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com: .. I guess what also tweaked me was that every single one of these guys was going for the exact same rate whereas without a doubt they are not all equally skilled. While I don't expect we have accurate

Re: !0

2009-02-12 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/2/12 Dirk Koopman d...@tobit.co.uk: Just been studying a CPAN module and I see a load of references to !0. Er, what is that? Googling most unhelpful. It's Genius for '1' :-) Please to be clubbing the perpatrator to death with a copy of their own wit and eurdition. /J\ --

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/1/29 Joel Bernstein j...@fysh.org: cases of rodents chewing through cables, turning signals to red! And I always get the impression that there are more rodents on the district and circle lines whenever I'm on there :-) /J\ -- http://rabidgravy.com/ - Music http://gellyfish.co.uk/ -

Re: Have at it

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/1/28 Simon Cozens si...@simon-cozens.org: Ovid wrote: Rather than focusing on advanced tools and modules, I'd focus on advanced techniques. I've had this debate a hundred times over since sitting down to write APP2ed: these days Perl programming is much more about using tools well than

Re: [OT] Perl woes

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/1/28 Jonathan Kimmitt jonathan.kimm...@csr.com: Whoever said, the primary purpose of a compiler is to check for errors, and only if there are no errors, create the code, was most definitely not talking about Perl. The next time I use == instead of eq to compare two

Re: [OT] Perl woes

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/1/28 Mark Blackman m...@blackmans.org: On 28 Jan 2009, at 12:01, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Dominic Thoreau dominic.thor...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/1/28 Jonathan Kimmitt jonathan.kimm...@csr.com: The next time I use == instead of eq to compare two

Re: [OT] Perl woes

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/1/28 Jonathan McKeown jonathan+londo...@hst.org.za: On Wednesday 28 January 2009 14:01:22 Paul Makepeace wrote: Interesting that everyone's said to use warnings but no-one's questioned what you're saying. Perl appears to me to DTRT: $ perl -le 'print yes if a == 2' $ perl -le 'print

Re: [OT] Perl woes

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/1/28 Jonathan Kimmitt jonathan.kimm...@csr.com: Most people on this list seem to defend the perl design decision such that if ($item == xyzzy) should only emit a warning, because after all, a string can be converted to a number with no loss of meaning (!). It's not so much a matter

Re: Today's MySQL Suckage

2009-01-23 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/1/23 Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Andy Wardley a...@wardley.org wrote: I have a file which defines a MySQL database schema. It looks a bit like this: /* This table defines users of the system who are Buffy fans. */ CREATE TABLE

Re: Today's MySQL Suckage

2009-01-23 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2009/1/23 David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:18:27AM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Ah that old the mysql suckage is fixed in the very next version gambit. Let's test this. Another thing that sucks about MySQL is its name. It's owned by Sun now, so I confidently

Re: London.pm Dim sum Wednesday 1pm: Leong's Legend Continues

2008-12-23 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 08:26 +, Léon Brocard wrote: a new sister restaurant of my favourite dim sum restaurant which is almost named after me. Obviously you will need to change your name to correct the mis-spelling. /J\

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/19 Robin Berjon ro...@berjon.com: On Dec 18, 2008, at 13:39 , Andy Wardley wrote: Behold! http://london.pm.org/ There's a few pages not building properly... working on that now. It is the embodiment of sexiness itself. Which is good because disembodied sexiness is a whole lot

Re: Mobile broadband

2008-12-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/19 Simon Cozens si...@simon-cozens.org: Sam Smith wrote: Or use a different one so you have different coverage chances; depending on how far into the middle of nowhere you'll be. Another question: Bloody hell, people, what have your mobile phone providers been doing for past five

Re: Mobile broadband

2008-12-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/19 Simon Wilcox es...@ourshack.com: Simon Cozens wrote: Anyone got any experience of mobile broadband providers? Any good ones, good deals, horror stories, don't-use-this-if-you-have-a-Mac stories, etc.? I have a t-mobile dongle thing which is OK but they have a trans-proxy on the

Re: Mobile broadband

2008-12-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/19 Denny london...@metamathics.org: On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 11:53 +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: 2008/12/19 Simon Wilcox es...@ourshack.com: I have a t-mobile dongle thing which is OK but they have a trans-proxy on the web interface which compresses images and inserts javascript

Re: Mobile broadband

2008-12-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/19 Martin Robertson mansionhouseproje...@googlemail.com: any views on when 'wireless interwebs' will become considered 'core' infrastructure alongside refuse/roads/libraries? Never. There are too many tinfoil-hat wearing nut jobs and too many politicians concerned about the Daily

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/18 Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com: sharding is a horrible term. But the computing 2.0 neophytes have to have obscure neologisms - it would be an affront to their freedom of thought to use a term that everyone else understands.

Re: Sharding, and all that

2008-12-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/18 Martin A. Brooks mar...@hinterlands.org: Mark Fowler wrote: consider (better) sharding our MySQL database. Is that when you throw it against the wall really, really, hard? Or make the DBAs roll naked in a bathtub of broken glass until they sort the performance problems out.

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/18 James Laver james.la...@gmail.com: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Andy Wardley a...@wardley.org wrote: Behold! http://london.pm.org/ There's a few pages not building properly... working on that now. A Brilliant stuff! Looks much improved! One thing I've just noticed is

Re: It Shines! It Shines!

2008-12-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/18 Andy Wardley a...@wardley.org: Behold! http://london.pm.org/ Yay! That's groovy ;-)

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 19:35 +, Nigel Rantor wrote: Nicholas Clark wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:33:34PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: I've added 3 more colour schemes (light brown, teal and purple) for those who find the orange a bit too garish. I've also added a print stylesheet.

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-12 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/12 Léon Brocard a...@astray.com: 2008/12/11 Andy Wardley a...@wardley.org: How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ This is fantastic! I would like to point out that my orange is #FF9900, but that's very close indeed. Andy, care to put your changes live? And if you

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 18:47 +0100, mirod wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ I tarted up the layout and styling a bit, added the glass onion (I'm determined to get that on at least one Perl

Re: Perl is Alive! (Dispatch war rocket AJAX...)

2008-12-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/10 Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree that it would be in Perl's best interests if TPF controlled perl.com but I'm not convinced that they have a right to demand it. I think even this point might be open to debate.

Re: london.pm.org web site

2008-12-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/10 Léon Brocard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London.pm has done many great things in the past. We shall do great things in the future. Let's concentrate for now on something that we have the power to change in the short term. http://london.pm.org/ is our web site. It's orange, which is nice.

Copyright Theft (was Re: # and believe me, Perl is still alive... still alive!...)

2008-12-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/10 Zbigniew Lukasiak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Denny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 23:28 +, Tim Sweetman wrote: Although I think there are two further things that would help: * A Perl user group that didn't just insult n00bs when they

Copyright Theft (was Re: # and believe me, Perl is still alive... still alive!...)

2008-12-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/10 Zbigniew Lukasiak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Denny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 23:28 +, Tim Sweetman wrote: Although I think there are two further things that would help: * A Perl user group that didn't just insult n00bs when they

Re: Copyright Theft (was Re: # and believe me, Perl is still alive... still alive!...)

2008-12-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/10 Dirk Koopman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jonathan Stowe wrote: Excised the URL to copyright violating material I'll put your attempt to get us to participate in copyright theft down to naivete, stupidity or youthful enthusiasm but please do not do this again. There are O'Reilly published

Re: Copyright Theft (was Re: # and believe me, Perl is still alive... still alive!...)

2008-12-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/10 Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Aaron Trevena [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 2008/12/10 Paul Orrock [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Secondly I find myself surprised that in a discussion that is all about leniency and being welcoming and not biting peoples heads off

Re: Copyright Theft

2008-12-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/10 Denny [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 14:36 +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: So, we all think that a site with no O'Reilly branding [...] The first image I can see on that page is the O'Reilly 'Programming Perl' image. The second link on the page goes to oreilly.com. Call

Re: Copyright Theft (was Re: # and believe me, Perl is still alive... still alive!...)

2008-12-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/10 Nigel Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/12/10 Zbigniew Lukasiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am really sorry for starting this. I hereby publicly apologize to Larry Wall, Tom Christiansen, Randal L. Schwartz and the publisher. Don't be sorry. You haven't breached their copyright - it's

Re: Perl is Alive!

2008-12-09 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/9 Nigel Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * An assignment of perl.com back to the Perl Foundation [1] .. [1] for the ORA lovers and authors on the list - it could still be licensed back to ORA for use in perl.com but the rightful owner is still the Perl Foundation Actually perl.com

Re: Easy install Perl (was Perl is ...)

2008-12-09 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 20:06 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was a bit late to weigh in on this point before the original thread was closed... Strange how you seem to be towing exactly the same line as the *thrice* banned Lyle Hopkins /J\

Re: Perl is dead

2008-12-04 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/4 Avleen Vig [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We could just ask people what the don't like about perl, or what they'd like to see change / improve. They'll probably rattle off a list of things which they like about other languages which they don't like in perl, but that's not necessarily a bad

Re: Perl is dead

2008-12-04 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/4 Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Cantrell wrote: And no, setting up yet another blog aggregator or yet another obscure site that occasionally publishes an article, those don't count. perlbuzz's existence hasn't fixed any problems. So fixing use.perl is what we need to do.

Re: Perl is dead

2008-12-04 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/4 Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 4 Dec 2008, at 16:28, Jonathan Stowe wrote: 2008/12/4 Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David Cantrell wrote: And no, setting up yet another blog aggregator or yet another obscure site that occasionally publishes an article, those don't count

Re: [Gllug-Social] [ANNOUNCE] December social - Bridge House, SE1 - Thurs 4 Dec

2008-12-04 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 18:44 +0100, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:20:04PM +, Andrew Taylor wrote: Was it just me? This message took 46 hours to get to me? It was posted at 14:57 GMT on Monday and I received it just befor noon today. Yes. (Based on a sample size of

Re: Perl is dead

2008-12-04 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 08:06 +0100, Zbigniew Lukasiak wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:41 PM, breno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Michele Beltrame [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this simplicity of those installations derives from the fact that providers are

Re: London.pm Leader

2008-11-30 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 11:23 +, Léon Brocard wrote: The London Perl Workshop yesterday was a great success - lots of people turned up for three free tracks (and a tutorial track too). London.pm has a long history of leaders: Dave Cross, Paul Mison, Mark Fowler, Simon Wistow and Greg

Re: Pub for tomorrow?

2008-11-30 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 17:06 +, Kake L Pugh wrote: On Fri 28 Nov 2008, James Laver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beer is dark and foamy and good, not light, fizzy and 'superchilled'. Speaking of beer... it's the season for Fuller's London Porter! Although this is available in bottles all

Re: Doing a non-standard ioctl in Perl

2008-11-07 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/11/6 Roger Burton West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For various reasons, I want to do an EVIOCGRAB ioctl. perldoc -f ioctl tells me require sys/ioctl.ph, and gives all sorts of scary warnings. But EVIOCGRAB isn't in sys/ioctl.ph. What's the approved way of doing this? That's the only ioctl I'm

Re: Ye Olde Perl[e] Mo[u]ngeurs Of Londinium Worshoppe Schedule of Events

2008-11-04 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/11/4 Martin A. Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mark Keating wrote: http://www.markkeating.me.uk/lpw2008/Schedule.pdf Where did you get the time compression device from? I wants one. You're managing to squeeze 150 minutes in between 1400 and 1430 :) -- Martin A. Brooks |

Re: testing

2008-11-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/11/3 Christopher Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Should you be able to create and call methods from a package in a test script? i.e Should something like this work? (i.e.i.e. it doesn't seem to for me right now). #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use Test::More tests = 2; BEGIN {

Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: New World

2008-10-30 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/30 Dave Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 30 Oct 2008, at 10:37, Hermann Ingjaldsson wrote: can i please be removed from this list? Let the games begin... Nah can't be arsed - I've just deployed my awesome administrative powers and unsubbed the poor guy.

Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: New World

2008-10-30 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/30 Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:17:57AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 30 Oct 2008, at 10:37, Hermann Ingjaldsson wrote: can i please be removed from this list? Let the games begin... I think a more helpful answer would have been: helpful

Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: New World

2008-10-30 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/30 Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:43:02PM +0100, Zbigniew Lukasiak wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not a list admin, so I can't remove you from the list. But hopefully there's enough information here

Re: change which program user is looking at

2008-10-21 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/21 Adeola Awoyemi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 21 Oct 2008, at 14:38, Denny wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 06:31 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 21, 2008 3:23pm, Denny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 15:10 +0200, Hermann Ingjaldsson wrote: How do i change (in code)

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-20 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/20 Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 14:27 +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote: Jonathan Stowe wrote: Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-19 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sat, 2008-10-18 at 14:27 +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote: Jonathan Stowe wrote: Anyone know a good way of stopping joe-jobbed spam which doesn't involve spf and stuff ? Don't have a catchall. That doesn't solve the particular problem here. You lot don't see most of the spam

Re: Dear friend,

2008-10-17 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 03:07 +0800, Tielman de Villiers wrote: Dear friend, i would like to introduce a good company who trades mainly in electornic products. Now the company is under sales promotion,all the products are sold nearly at its cost They provide the best service to customers,they

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

2008-10-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/10 Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10 Oct 2008, at 07:35, IvorW wrote: Nah, he's just systematically stripping all that unfriendly punctuation out of English. No, he's stated he is capable of drawing the threads of your lies to a conclusion, but nothing more. My lies? I

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

2008-10-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/10 Rafael Garcia-Suarez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/10/10 Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Back to programming languages(!) Just as a different perspective, here is Python growing a ternary operator, i.e. how to get the same behavior as the C-like C ? A : B. There was considerable

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

2008-10-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/10 Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's certainly easier on the eyes than this: C ?? X !! Y# Perl6 - not yummy What's wrong with the existing syntax for the conditional operation? Or is this the Protocols of The Elders of Zion version of the Perl 6 syntax ;-)

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

2008-10-09 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/9 Iain Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9 Oct 2008, at 11:51 am, Andy Armstrong wrote: On 9 Oct 2008, at 01:39, Iain Barnett wrote: if $a ~~ $b #this could mean several things A smart match between two scalars. Clear. if $a in $b #it is clear what this means One

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

2008-10-09 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/9 Dirk Koopman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jonathan Stowe wrote: 2008/10/9 Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9 Oct 2008, at 01:39, Iain Barnett wrote: if a in b #this is even better IMO I think this is the previous without *any* funny characters. Y'know like python

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

2008-10-09 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/9 Iain Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9 Oct 2008, at 2:36 pm, Jonathan Stowe wrote: 2008/10/9 Dirk Koopman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jonathan Stowe wrote: 2008/10/9 Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9 Oct 2008, at 01:39, Iain Barnett wrote: if a in b #this is even

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

2008-10-09 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/9 Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 9 Oct 2008, at 01:39, Iain Barnett wrote: if a in b #this is even better IMO I think this is the previous without *any* funny characters. Y'know like python or cobol or C

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

2008-10-09 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 19:18 +0100, Iain Barnett wrote: On 9 Oct 2008, at 3:29 pm, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Nah, it's not the perl thought police you have to worry about with that one - it's the radical functional programming fifth columnists posing as otherwise respectable members

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

2008-10-08 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/8 Nigel Rantor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If anyone comes back and tell me that they think ~~ scans nicely in english, is easier to type and provides a better, clearer explanation of what it does in code than 'in' I will say no more on the subject because we would just be dealing with a huge

Re: Perl's lack of 'in' keyword

2008-10-07 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/10/7 Abigail [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 04:04:11PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: ... is starting to frustrate me. It's the one feature I am finding I'm really missing from That Other Language. if ($bar in @foo) { # ... } (Does Perl 6 have it?) Why wait for

Re: A night at the opera

2008-09-26 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 16:36 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 03:32:41PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: On 9/26/08, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.shakespeares-globe.org/theatre/annualtheatreseason/burialatthebes/ Who's up for it? When? Whenever

Re: spam, er vote rigging

2008-09-14 Thread Jonathan Stowe
Hey! This ends today! Vote! /J\ On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 16:22 +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Well as it seems to have become fashionable to spam the list with whatever it is that you might want to be pushing. I'd like you all to help me to be able to escape computer programming by voting for my

spam, er vote rigging

2008-09-08 Thread Jonathan Stowe
Well as it seems to have become fashionable to spam the list with whatever it is that you might want to be pushing. I'd like you all to help me to be able to escape computer programming by voting for my crap at http://orangeunsignedact.co.uk/acts/rabid-gravy obviously you have to register

Re: Kindness to the poor workshop organiser

2008-09-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 06:49 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 12:37:22AM +0100, Matt S Trout wrote: Hey. Mark Keating, the Shadowcat MD and volunteer for London Perl Workshop organising this year, is going to be down in London tomorrow evening and it seems the friend he

Re: Getting my TODO list down

2008-09-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 20:16 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: I'm trying to get my TODO list TODOne. One thing I realise I haven't done that I said I'd done is: Lyle Hopkins has a new project. The itch he finds he needs to scratch is addressing problems in installing modules from CPAN in

Re: [permanent job advert] Perl developer with DBIx::Class and Catalyst skills

2008-09-02 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 13:34 +0100, Livio Ravetto wrote: Hi there, Sorry to use the list for this, For future reference http://london.pm.org/about/faq.html#job /J\

Re: [ANNOUNCE] September social - Thurs 4 Sep - Crown, Clerkenwell Green

2008-09-02 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 14:42 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Just a reminder, this is tomorrow ... You appear to have sent this a day early :-)

Select Re: (no subject)

2003-09-09 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 11:35:08AM +0100, Piers / Lot105 wrote: Where what I really want is, if any handle has a line waiting, give it me, otherwise wait. I guess I'd also want some fairness, but forget that for a moment!! Obviously something

Re: Exim and HELO

2003-09-08 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Sam Vilain wrote: On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 10:58, Lusercop wrote; how can it now be unsupported?. Just upgrade. It will make your life *so* much easier. (there are actually .debs of exim4 around if you want it to sit nicely with your package management). Yes.

Re: Pub feedback please

2003-09-07 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Kate L Pugh wrote: Hello. Could people who were at the social meet at the Green Man last night let me know what they thought of it? On the whole I quite liked the place. I think the issues that other people have raised (the running out of beer and losing food orders) were

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-09-01 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Tim Sweetman wrote: Piers Cawley wrote: Befunge. Or Brainfuck. Maybe INTERCAL. It appears to be a natural law that london.pm discussions evolve until they are discussing Befunge or Brainfuck, then disintegrate. Befunge and Brainfuck: the Nazis of the Computing World

Re: Stupid fucking antivirus software

2003-08-31 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, David Cantrell wrote: Why is it that some anti-virus software programmers are so fucking stupid that their bugware sends me reports that I sent Sobig - which is known to fake the sender address - to their moronic customers? Tell me about it, just cleared eight of those

Re: london.pm digest, Vol 1 #1567 - 14 msgs

2003-08-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: london.pm digest, Vol 1 #1567 - 14 msgs A message sent on Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:49:02 +0100 sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been blocked by WGSN. This mail has been found to contain offensive text Well fuck that for

Silly Mail Software (Re: Your message to london.pm awaits moderatorapproval (fwd))

2003-08-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe
This rather amused me. The conversation between two pieces of mail software could have gone on for ever. /J\ -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:42:19 +0100 (BST) From: Syssup MailBox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Your message to london.pm

Re: No multipart or HTML

2003-08-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote: Is there any reason to continue to permit text/html or multipart/mixed messages anywhere in @london.pm.org ? Fine by me. Glad you got rid of those mails - I saw the messages when I got in this morning and felt decidedly depondent at the prospect.

Re: No multipart or HTML

2003-08-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Alex McLintock wrote: At 11:46 29/08/03, Paul M* wrote: Is there any reason to continue to permit text/html or multipart/mixed messages anywhere in @london.pm.org ? If someone sends both text and html as multipart/mixed would it be possible to throw away the html and

Re: No multipart or HTML

2003-08-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Chris Devers wrote: A less painful approach might just be to queue multipart messages for moderator review. As has been noted, there have only been a handful of these in the past six months, not all of which were meant to go to the list anyway. Not less painful for the

Re: No multipart or HTML

2003-08-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003, Chris Devers wrote: Of course, if all spam starts having a text/plain branch, then my suggestion ends up not helping very much... Then we start killing the spammers /J\

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-15 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Tom Insam wrote: At 23:16 + 2003/08/14, Greg McCarroll wrote: i can never remember its name, because when i finally get up, find that someone has replaced my legs with jelly, stagger to the door and grab business card to remember the place. i find that i end up

Re: Exporting from .mdb Access files

2003-08-15 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:21:04PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: It seems like if you can get an instance of Access running with the file, you should be able to use ODBC to extract the data. Indeed, but that would require running Windows, obtaining a

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-06 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, James Campbell wrote: I have checked the london.pm FAQ but I am still confused about this [OT] business. I don't think there is anything to be confused about - everything is ('on' .. 'off' ) topic /J\

Re: Orange

2003-07-14 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Leon Brocard wrote: Hello. They are planning to auction the colour of search.cpan.org tonight at OSCON. I hear that it is not going to be cheap. If you want to help me make it orange and would like to pledge a small amount that'd be wonderful. Emails offlist please.

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