Re: Theory In Town

2013-08-05 Thread Piers Cawley
atural history soon I > believe... > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 5 Aug 2013, at 18:08, "David E. Wheeler" > > > wrote: > > > On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Piers Cawley > > > > wrote: > > > >> I shall be inTown on Saturday (flying t

Re: Theory In Town

2013-08-05 Thread Piers Cawley
I shall be inTown on Saturday (flying to Kiev on Sunday morning). Maybe a family friendly social on Saturday afternoon would be a good thing? On Monday, August 5, 2013, David E. Wheeler wrote: > On Aug 5, 2013, at 12:23 AM, Peter Corlett > > wrote: > > >> I haven't gone and booked a pub for us ye

Re: Dim sum TODAY 12:30 at Pearl Liang

2013-01-28 Thread Piers Cawley
I'm marooned in Cornwall. Rather a long way from Pearl Liang. Or any decent Chinese food, frankly. On 28 January 2013 10:28, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > Anyone else marooned in Stockley Park? > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Leon Brocard wrote: > > > Yet again it's time for dim sum! This time

Re: Hotels for the LPW

2012-10-26 Thread Piers Cawley
On 26 October 2012 12:20, Peter Corlett wrote: > On 25 Oct 2012, at 09:00, Mark Keating wrote: > > I have been asked by a couple of people for hotel recommendations in and > around the LPW for this year. Traditionally we have always left people to > their own devices and the sites like TripAdviso

Re: Brainbench perl test?

2012-09-04 Thread Piers Cawley
On 4 September 2012 17:18, David Hodgkinson wrote: > > On 4 Sep 2012, at 16:07, Smylers wrote: > >> Piers Cawley writes: >> >>> Tower of Hanoi is always a better example for solving with recursion >>> than the fibobloodynacci sequence. If nothing else, th

Re: Brainbench perl test?

2012-09-04 Thread Piers Cawley
On 4 September 2012 14:41, Dominic Humphries wrote: > On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 14:31 +0100, Matt Freake wrote: >> For that reason, I would have thought there were other, better, recursion >> problems out there I could use. > > Tower of Hanoi? :) > Tower of Hanoi (with a proper description of what th

Re: Brainbench perl test?

2012-09-04 Thread Piers Cawley
On 4 September 2012 14:17, Dave Cross wrote: > Quoting Mr I : > >> Consider the example I gave. How will you approach that? I bet you'd >> approach completely differently if you KNEW vedic mathematics. > > > Your example said: > > "write a function ved(n, m) that implements the 16 sutras* and uses

Re: Dim Sum?

2012-07-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Right. Gill and I shall almost definitely be at Tian Fu with hungry expressions at around 1pmish tomorrow. It's Friday the 13th. What could possible go wrong? On 11 July 2012 20:20, Piers Cawley wrote: > For me? On Thursday? Hell yes. Much as I'd love not go into work > tomorr

Re: Dim Sum?

2012-07-11 Thread Piers Cawley
t; On 11 Jul 2012, at 17:35, Piers Cawley wrote: > >> On 11 July 2012 15:51, Peter Sergeant wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Does anyone have a craving for Dim Sum in the West End tomorrow? A 100% &

Re: Dim Sum?

2012-07-11 Thread Piers Cawley
On 11 July 2012 15:51, Peter Sergeant wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > >> >> Does anyone have a craving for Dim Sum in the West End tomorrow? A 100% >> Venda turn out >> again would count as a fail... :) >> > > There's tasty Szechuan food in West London ... Tian

Re: Dim Sum?

2012-07-11 Thread Piers Cawley
On 11 July 2012 13:58, Dominic Thoreau wrote: > On 11 July 2012 13:36, Will Crawford wrote: >> On 11 July 2012 13:10, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone have a craving for Dim Sum in the West End tomorrow? A 100% >>> Venda turn out >>> again would count as a fail... :) >> >> If we could

Re: Wanted: Speakers for London.pm Technical Meeting

2012-06-18 Thread Piers Cawley
Bugger. Make it the 13th and I can attempt a 20 minute version of a 40 minute OSCON talk: "YARR! Plunderin' Programmin' Paradigms Fer Profit!" or "The Pirates! In an Adventure with Computer Scientists!" On 18 June 2012 21:12, Leon Brocard wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 04:26:25PM +0100, Leon Br

Re: Perl 6 talk & tutorial in Bristol, 19 May

2012-04-27 Thread Piers Cawley
On 27 April 2012 17:32, Peter Haworth wrote: > > Jonathan Worthington and Carl Masak are both flying over to Bristol next > month to talk about Perl 6, as part of the first "IT MegaMeet" at UWE. > They'll be giving a half hour talk and a 2 hour tutorial, but apart from > an introduction to Bristol

Re: Programming Heresy

2012-04-01 Thread Piers Cawley
On 1 April 2012 01:14, Travis Basevi wrote: > > On 31/03/2012 11:44, Aaron Trevena wrote: > >> Ummm this is london.pm. People in London don't have sheds. >>> >> >> I have a shed, also a nice garden and a 15 min commute to the office >> (and 20 min drive to selection of best beaches in the countr

Re: Emacs as a perl IDE

2012-01-26 Thread Piers Cawley
On 25 January 2012 22:17, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > > Pulled together some links and thoughts, and actually learned stuff: > > http://www.davehodgkinson.com/blog/2012/01/using-emacs-as-an-ide/ > > Any other comments? Piers? I shelved all work on a refactoring browser for emacs a long time ago. Mor

Re: London.pm Sichuan TianFu Buyi Thursday 1pm

2011-11-10 Thread Piers Cawley
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Leon Brocard wrote: > On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 10:31:04AM +, Leon Brocard wrote: >> It's time to have another Sichuan lunch meeting. This restaurant has >> been mentioned on list before (it used to be called Bamboo House) - it >> does amazing (sometimes spicy) S

Re: Pre LPW social?

2011-11-08 Thread Piers Cawley
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Abigail wrote: > On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 05:36:21PM +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am arriving in London on Thursday 12:30, unfortunately >> missing the Sichuan TianFu lunch. >> >> I wonder if there is going to be a pre-conf social gathering? >> > > > I'll

Re: Perl Skills Test

2011-11-06 Thread Piers Cawley
On Saturday, November 5, 2011, Zbigniew Łukasiak wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Dave Cross wrote: >> Interesting question from a training client: >> >> "Do you know of a general Perl skills test (on-line or paper) that we could >> give to our Perl developers before you turn up. >> >> T

Re: Perl Skills Test

2011-09-29 Thread Piers Cawley
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Aaron Trevena wrote: > On 29 September 2011 10:48, Victoria Conlan wrote: >> >>> not in london, but very nice location ;) >> >> Not that I don't think everywhere is nicer than London, but ... could you be >> more specific? > > Sunny Cornwall : http://www.headforwa

Re: Perl Skills Test

2011-09-22 Thread Piers Cawley
On Thursday, September 22, 2011, Jones, Christopher wrote: > On 22 September 2011 14:14, Dave Cross wrote: > >> Interesting question from a training client: >> >> "Do you know of a general Perl skills test (on-line or paper) that we could >> give to our Perl developers before you turn up. > > At

Re: London.pm Sichuan TianFu Buyi Thursday 1pm

2011-09-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Hmm... that would be on my birthday? Within walking distance of where I work? I think it likely that I shall be there. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Léon Brocard wrote: > It's time to have another Sichuan lunch meeting. This restaurant has > been mentioned on list before (it used to be called

Re: Someone needs to take jwz aside...

2011-04-28 Thread Piers Cawley
On Thursday, April 28, 2011, Simon Cozens wrote: > On 27/04/2011 17:19, Avleen Vig wrote: >> That's right. If you want OO, you can always use a real programming >> language. > > Well, you're either using Smalltalk, or faking it. > Usually badly. Moose is faking CLOS though. Sort of.

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-23 Thread Piers Cawley
On Saturday, April 23, 2011, Sue Spence wrote: > On 22 April 2011 22:20, Simon Wistow wrote: >> Apple, evil bastards that they are, don't ship with GCC installed. You >> have to install Xcode to get it. And now, because apparently raping >> puppies to death with nuns or whatever it is they do for

Re: Xcode 4.0.2 and XS modules

2011-04-22 Thread Piers Cawley
I'm using XCode 4 and things are fine. But I'm running the developer preview of Lion which is entirely ppc free. On Saturday, April 23, 2011, Jesse Vincent wrote: > Ah. So _this_ is what fucked jwz. > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > Simon Wistow wrote

Re: Someone needs to take jwz aside...

2011-04-20 Thread Piers Cawley
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Andy Armstrong wrote: > On 20 Apr 2011, at 12:05, Jason Clifford wrote: >> So how are you handling the requirement to maintain the code doing what >> those many modules do? >> >> If you are not using a modular approach does that have any impact upon >> the TCO of

Re: iPhone Barcode Readers

2011-03-01 Thread Piers Cawley
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Kieren Diment wrote: > > On 01/03/2011, at 10:05 PM, Christopher Jones wrote: > >> On 1 March 2011 09:49, Dave Cross wrote: >>> >>> Need some advice on iPhone Barcode reading apps - so I turn to london.pm, my >>> favourite group of iGeeks. >>> >>> My wife is a tea

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speakers at a conference

2011-02-08 Thread Piers Cawley
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Dave Cross wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/08/2011 12:42 PM, Piers Cawley wrote: >> Can we have Kirsty McColl doing a gig in the evening as well? > > Unfortunately, she was always rather disappointing live.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speakers at a conference

2011-02-08 Thread Piers Cawley
Can we have Kirsty McColl doing a gig in the evening as well? On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Sue Spence wrote: > In that vein, I'd like to hear from Alan J Perlis. > > On 8 February 2011 08:35, Paul Makepeace wrote: >> Alan Turing >> >> On Feb 7, 2011 5

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speakers at a conference

2011-02-07 Thread Piers Cawley
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > > On 7 Feb 2011, at 15:47, Piers Cawley wrote: > >> Alan Kay > > Brian Stroustrup and make him apoligise. Hah!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speakers at a conference

2011-02-07 Thread Piers Cawley
Alan Kay On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Mark Keating wrote: > **Firstly let me apologise in advance if you see multiple copies of this >  email as it is posted to more than one list** > > I am seeking to poll the collective geekverse with this question: > > "If you could see one speaker at a dyn

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 12th April 2010

2010-03-27 Thread Piers Cawley
ll jarred by the code so obscure? What is it for? All the boggled mongers Where do they all come from? All the boggled mongers Where do they all belong? There's Piers Cawley, writing a song about Selfgol in time for the show How will it go? Look at him working, trying to fit Damy'n'

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 12th April 2010

2010-03-26 Thread Piers Cawley
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Chris Devers wrote: > > > On Mar 26, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Piers Cawley > wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:41:01AM +1100, Dami

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 12th April 2010

2010-03-26 Thread Piers Cawley
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Piers Cawley wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Paul Makepeace wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 17:36, Piers Cawley >> wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote: >>>> >>>> >>&g

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 12th April 2010

2010-03-26 Thread Piers Cawley
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 17:36, Piers Cawley > wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:41:01AM +1100, Damian Conway wro

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 12th April 2010

2010-03-26 Thread Piers Cawley
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:41:01AM +1100, Damian Conway wrote: >> [Various all-too-easily-copied archival format suggestions discarded] >> >> Look, if we *really* want to preserve and protect this extremely >> valuable intellectual prop

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 12th April 2010

2010-03-26 Thread Piers Cawley
If you think I'm singing an introduction for you, you have another one coming I'm afraid. I still can't quite believe I managed to sing pjf in. Jocasta dared me to do it as I stood up. On Friday, March 26, 2010, Damian Conway wrote: > [Various all-too-easily-copied archival format suggestions dis

Re: London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 18th March 2010

2010-03-15 Thread Piers Cawley
Further to this, if you've registered with an irc handle or nonstandard looking name, could you get in touch with me and let me know the handle you registered with and a name that won't make our security people nervous, I would be very grateful. We _can_ make a pass for you on the night, but it's

Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please

2010-02-10 Thread Piers Cawley
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Simon Wistow wrote: > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:04:01AM +0000, Piers Cawley said: >> That sounds to me like you don't have a table. You have a tree with >> tabular data at each node. Consider using nested divs to represent >> your

Re: On-topic: HTML/JS help please

2010-02-10 Thread Piers Cawley
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:31 PM, David Cantrell wrote: > On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 05:13:25PM +, Jacqui Caren-home wrote: >> David Cantrell wrote: >> >I want to add a Thingy to CPANdeps to let users collapse/expand portions >> >of the dependency tree.  How would one go about this? >> >Naively wr

Re: Pig and pub! (Emergency social called for)

2010-01-18 Thread Piers Cawley
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 1:17 PM, LesleyB wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 01:33:50PM +0100, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 05:48:22PM +, Edmund von der Burg wrote: >> > >> > PS - note that there are four heads going. If you ever wanted to do a >> > very British varia

Re: london.pm xmas xword

2009-12-18 Thread Piers Cawley
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Aaron Trevena wrote: > 2009/12/17 Aaron Trevena : >> As promised.. I've put together a crossword. >> >> Download the PDF, print and ponder over the holiday : >> http://www.aarontrevena.co.uk/news.html > > To make it interesting, as well as the glory of bing proclai

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

2009-09-25 Thread Piers Cawley
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Ovid wrote: > --- On Thu, 24/9/09, James Laver wrote: > >> From: James Laver > >> It's [Scunthorpe] a chav-filled hateful shithole and there is absolutely >> nothing going for it. Come to think of it, I can't even >> think of a decent pub in the whole town. > >

Re: Bubble sort dance

2009-09-18 Thread Piers Cawley
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > Is there any video out there of l.pm doing the bubble sort? ISTR it was performed before the days of pervasive video cameras in every pocket. Leastways, I _hope_ it was.

Re: "Perl is my Word of Warcraft"

2009-09-12 Thread Piers Cawley
I _think_ that one might be due to me. I certainly remember saying it, but I don't remember saying it in a presentation. Unless it was at YAPC::Paris, in which case I certainly don't have the presentation. On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Zbigniew Lukasiak wrote: > https://lists.thing.net/piperma

Re: Tonight - London.pm Moose Tech Talk Evening 19th Feb

2009-02-20 Thread Piers Cawley
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Mike Whitaker wrote: > > On 19 Feb 2009, at 15:54, pe...@dragonstaff.com wrote: > >> Hello all, a reminder that tonight is the London Perlmongers technical >> talks evening on "Moose" at the BBC Media Centre, White City. >> Arrival at 6.30 p.m. for a 7.00 p.m. star

Re: [OT] Perl woes

2009-01-28 Thread Piers Cawley
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Matt Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Piers Cawley > wrote: >> Actually, I was surprised to find that there isn't a warning for that >> with warnings turned on. Memory proving faulty. > > Am I missing something? Nope, I was.

Re: [OT] Perl woes

2009-01-28 Thread Piers Cawley
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Piers Cawley wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Jonathan Kimmitt > wrote: >>Whoever said, the primary purpose of a compiler is to check for >> errors, >>and only if there are no errors, create the code, was most &

Re: [OT] Perl woes

2009-01-28 Thread Piers Cawley
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Jonathan Kimmitt wrote: >Whoever said, the primary purpose of a compiler is to check for > errors, >and only if there are no errors, create the code, was most > definitely not talking about Perl. > >The next time I use == instead of eq to c

Re: about your meetings

2009-01-28 Thread Piers Cawley
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Léon Brocard wrote: > 2009/1/27 Frank Gutierrez : >> Can you stream them or post a video online? > > Slides will be made available afterwards. Well, some of 'em will be. I don't expect my slides to be all that illuminating without the accompanying chat.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London.pm technical meeting about "What is Moose and why is it the future?" on 19th Feb 2009

2009-01-28 Thread Piers Cawley
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Edmund von der Burg wrote: > 2009/1/27 Dirk Koopman : >> Oh B*gg*r. Clashes with my chainsaw course and I shall be too erm.. tired to >> get up to London and back for the following day's gruelling cutting and >> moving wood (who needs a gym subscription when one h

Re: Have at it

2009-01-27 Thread Piers Cawley
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Aaron Trevena > wrote: >> 2009/1/27 Piers Cawley : >>> MOP is modern? The Art of The MetaObject Protocol was published in >>> 1991. This is obviously some new usage of the

Re: Have at it

2009-01-27 Thread Piers Cawley
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Aaron Trevena wrote: > 2009/1/26 Denny : >> Personally, I assumed he was referring to the strong 'use Moose' push >> which EPO seems to be on - would it be safe to say that Moose is a >> modern approach to OO? I've not used it personally, and am looking >> forward

Re: Dim Sum Sunday

2009-01-19 Thread Piers Cawley
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Ovid wrote: > - Original Message > >> From: Ovid > >> My friend Gabrielle just flew into the UK yesterday and as we were trying to >> figure out our plans for today, I saw this email. Might be late notice, but >> if >> you'd like to call me at 07908 953

Dim Sum Sunday

2009-01-16 Thread Piers Cawley
I appear to be in London's fair city this weekend and, as is my habit, I'm aiming to take in some Dim Sum on Sunday at about 12.30. Where is the current favourite in Chinatown? Is the New World still reasonably? Does anyone feel like joining us?

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Piers Cawley
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Jasper wrote: > 2009/1/5 Paul Makepeace : >> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Roger Burton West >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:13:48PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote: >>> >>> >Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore >>>

Re: Santa came early this year. I want to shoot him.

2008-12-23 Thread Piers Cawley
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Merijn Broeren wrote: > Quoting Ovid (publiustemp-londo...@yahoo.com): >> >> It's days like this which *really* make me pine for Ruby. >> > Yes, because a language lacking any tests whatsoever makes life so much > better, Well, the Rubinius test suite seems to hav

Re: Perl Christmas Quiz

2008-12-12 Thread Piers Cawley
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Paul Makepeace wrote: > SPOILERS contd > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Joel Bernstein wrote: >> 2008/12/12 Chris Jack : > >>> 3) Write a Perl function that takes two references to arrays and returns >>> the intersect of them. If an entry appears n times

Re: [OT] accessors pragma

2003-09-18 Thread Piers Cawley
Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For what it's worth... > > Perl 6 classes will autogenerate accessors that return the underlying > attribute itself as an lvalue: > > class DogTag { > has $.name is public; > has $.rank is public; > has $.s

Re: [ot] doubtless silly perl question

2003-09-17 Thread Piers Cawley
Chris Devers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Shevek wrote: > >> On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Joel Bernstein wrote: >> >> > I have a problem with some code which I'm trying to debug. I'm not >> > certain, but I think perhaps I'm doing something wrong in the >> > following line - perhaps

Re: [ot] doubtless silly perl question

2003-09-17 Thread Piers Cawley
Joel Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a problem with some code which I'm trying to debug. I'm not > certain, but I think perhaps I'm doing something wrong in the following > line - perhaps inadvertently creating an array slice? > > what do you understand by the line: > my $fo

Re: back to the 80's

2003-09-17 Thread Piers Cawley
Steve Keay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 09:43:51PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: >> How about photographs that already exist? I have photos of my Jupiter >> Ace, and Sharp MZ-80K she's welcome to. (They're pics for ebay as >> they're about to be sold.) > > Apparently that's

Re: Surrey.pm

2003-09-17 Thread Piers Cawley
Richard Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Andy Wardley wrote: > >> I live in Guildford, Surrey and I'm also rather partial to beer. >> I think it must be time to organise the second ever Surrey.pm >> meeting. > > But /are/ there any decent real ale pubs in Guildford? It's

Re: Sets and existing CPAN modules

2003-09-13 Thread Piers Cawley
Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm looking for modules on CPAN that can help me implement the following > hypothetical class, and the advice of the list on which ones I should use. > > Okay, so I have hypothetical collection of objects of the Scooby class, > and these are stored in the

Re: Module dependencies

2003-09-09 Thread Piers Cawley
Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tony Bowden sent the following bits through the ether: > >> Obviously depends on Module::CPANTS being correct, but that's an >> SEP... > > I've given up Module::CPANTS to Thomas Klausner. So it's not my P! ;-) > > May he run with it and do all the things

Re: Exim and HELO

2003-09-09 Thread Piers Cawley
Tony Kennick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyway I'm going to go back to baiting the office mac user Okay, I now have this image of you threading lugworms onto the office Mac user and, quite frankly, I wish I didn't.

Re: Exim and HELO

2003-09-09 Thread Piers Cawley
Rafael Garcia-Suarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nicholas Clark wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 11:58:57AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >> > Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > > MTA Advocacy Zzzz >> > >> > What, you'd rather we talked about *cars* or somethi

Re: Kibo and Religion - Inventing Deities

2003-09-07 Thread Piers Cawley
Andy Wardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nigel Hamilton wrote: >> Talking about inventing deities ... was anyone around when the GOD >> 'Kibo' was invented on Usenet? > > Yep. I've met and partied with Kibo himself. I have a special Kibo > Love Number of 1, reserved for people who have hugged

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-09-02 Thread Piers Cawley
Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: > *> > *>CwG: Right, you have seven days to produce your ID card at any police > *>station -- here's the appropriate bit of paper to bring along with it. > *>Me: Right

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-09-01 Thread Piers Cawley
Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: > *> > *>Not if they stop you walking down the street. > > Well, in the US where cops carry guns, I wouldn't try that myself. Cop with gun: Show me your ID, sir! Me: I'm t

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-09-01 Thread Piers Cawley
Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: > *> > *>How would they know who to arrest if nobody turned up with the ID > *>card within seven days? > > Well, the car has a vin and registration. I'm sure that taki

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-09-01 Thread Piers Cawley
Rafael Garcia-Suarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Piers Cawley wrote: >> >> How would they know who to arrest if nobody turned up with the ID >> card within seven days? > > Implementation detail. Do you think that the marketroids that work > for the gover

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-09-01 Thread Piers Cawley
Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: > *> > *>You only have to be able to produce your driving license when asked, and > *>you have up to 7 days to do so. You don't have to be carrying it. > > Well, I suspect something similar would happen with an

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-29 Thread Piers Cawley
Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: > *> > *>On a conceptual level I have no particular problem with carrying an id > *>card. Do I trust the government to get it right and to protect my data ? > *>Not a bloody chance ! > > Indeed, I feel the sa

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-29 Thread Piers Cawley
Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:38:23PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: >> 2. The governments ability to deliver large scale IT projects is almost >> zero. Time after time major projects have failed and this will be the >> largest IT project undertaken by cent

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-29 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Berjon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nicholas Clark wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:48:56AM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: >>>happens if you get hit by a bus and you're alone? How do you expect your >> Someone calls and ambulance, and no-one at the hospital worries >> whether you >>

Re: golf and reversed emails

2003-08-28 Thread Piers Cawley
Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:04:43AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: >> >> Reminds me of some programming contest where you had to take as little >> time as possible to do task X. You were allowed to submit multiple >> candidates; the one that took the least amount o

Re: [OT] SQL woes

2003-08-22 Thread Piers Cawley
Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Randal L. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> MySQL is *just* now getting transactions. PostgreSQL has had some >> very good experts working on transactions for years now, and they're >> much further along on the trial-and-error curve that MySQL i

Re: Extending Other Packages

2003-08-18 Thread Piers Cawley
Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Meanwhile in your code > > use Bar; # load Bar > use Foo; # load Foo, which will load extensions into Bar (the fred method > # in the above explanation > > But don't do that. Really. No, really, really, really. No REALLY REALLY > REALLY. > >

Coming to Lunnun

2003-08-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Does anyone have crash space for Thursday night? -- Piers

Re: Hundredweight was Re: UK Money, again

2003-07-04 Thread Piers Cawley
Steve Mynott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Roger Horne wrote: > >> On Fri 27 Jun, Philip Newton wrote: >> >>>You have: cwt >>>You want: >>>Definition: hundredweight = 100 pounds = 45.359237 kg >>> >>>which sounds as if it *is* 100 somethings. >> But is wrong. There are 112 pounds in a hund

Re: OSCON

2003-07-04 Thread Piers Cawley
Andy Wardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So who is going to be at OSCON? Me! > Will London.pm field a team in the quiz (I'm up for it!) No quiz! > Will beer be drunk? Probably. -- Piers

Re: list all installed perl modules

2003-07-04 Thread Piers Cawley
Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 05:22:17PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: >> Redvers Davies sent the following bits through the ether: >> >> > Speak to shiny, orange acme and acquire cpanstats. >> > >> > http://www.astray.com/cpanstats/ >> >> Look, okay, I'm so

Re: Using LWP for protected pages

2003-07-04 Thread Piers Cawley
"Piers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - > Piers > (a different one!) Argh! But which of us is the anti-Piers? Will there be mutual destruction if we end up in the same place? -- Piers

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-30 Thread Piers Cawley
"muppet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Cantrell said: >> The hundredweight is 112 lbs, or 8 stone, or 1/20 ton. > > suddenly i have a new understanding of "weighin' in at nineteen stone", from > "whole lotta rosie". indeed, that is a whole lot of woman. wow. There was apparently an occasi

Re: [Advert] indy hardware for sale

2003-06-08 Thread Piers Cawley
Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some of the less interesting stuff that I will be getting rid of > includes, > > HP SureStore 2000 Tape Drive That's SCSI DAT right? -- Piers

Re: [JOB] (maybe) Leicester

2003-06-03 Thread Piers Cawley
Chris Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 06:33:59AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: >> >> Well, I might have been not that long ago, but I've got a month in >> America coming up after which we're probably moving to Newcastle. So >>

Re: [JOB] (maybe) Leicester

2003-06-01 Thread Piers Cawley
Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hey, folks. > > I got mail from a consultant/recruiter in Leicester asking if I knew > of any perl gurus looking for work. Since I'm not sure where > everyone is, relatively speaking, I figured I'd pass it on. If > anyone's interested, get in touch with m

Re: Perl 6 Apocalypse 6

2003-03-13 Thread Piers Cawley
Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Piers Cawley wrote: > >>> ...Piers is perfectly capable of coding equally cleverly >>> in Python, or Java, or Pascal or any other language. >>> >>>;-) >> Frankly, Piers would rather stick

Re: Perl 6 Apocalypse 6

2003-03-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Piers Cawley wrote: >> >>> Oi!**2 Yeah, I know it's in quote marks, but even so. Especially >>> coming from someone who's perpetrated Perl in

Re: Perl 6 Apocalypse 6

2003-03-12 Thread Piers Cawley
David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> >>> What I hope is that Perl 6 is like that. That most people will >>> never see >>> the complicated bits. What I worry about is maintaining code by >>> someone >>> like Piers (sorry Piers :) which is so full of clever bits that I will >>> have to deal

Re: Perl 6 Apocalypse 6

2003-03-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Piers Cawley wrote: > >> Oi!**2 Yeah, I know it's in quote marks, but even so. Especially >> coming from someone who's perpetrated Perl in Klingon. > > Well, if you're going to ignore significant quotations

Re: Perl 6 Apocalypse 6

2003-03-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:27:00PM +, Shevek said: >> Languages like ADA95 (I think), C++ (somewhat) [more examples?] are >> designed as very rich source languages to pass a lot of semantic >> information to the compiler. They are tedious to write. Fr

Re: Perl 6 Apocalypse 6

2003-03-12 Thread Piers Cawley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randal L. Schwartz) writes: >> "Mark" == Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Mark> There are many features that make basic Perl 6 easier to > Mark> understand - the change in sidgels (the funny chars), easier > Mark> function calling, nicer OO... Sum of the parts, e

Re: Perl 6 Apocalypse 6

2003-03-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Mike Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:27:00PM +, Shevek wrote: >> >> The tradeoff for moving things to compile time is coder speed. The extra >> syntax, typing and complexity of source code structures makes it take >> longer to write code. As we all know, machin

Re: Perl 6 Apocalypse 6

2003-03-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Damian Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Simon Wistow wrote: >> What I worry about is maintaining code by someone >> like Piers (sorry Piers :) which is so full of clever bits that I will >> have to deal with 'Full on Larry during the Apocalypses demonstrating >> some tortuous bit of syntax' sty

Re: IDE for windows?

2003-03-09 Thread Piers Cawley
"Luis Campos de Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Dave Cross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:22 AM >> >> From: Neil Fryer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2/17/03 11:12:01 AM >> >> > Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows? >>

Re: Freelance cooperatives

2003-03-02 Thread Piers Cawley
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:56:53PM +, Ng Wu Lee said: >> A couple of years ago I read an article linked by /. (which I can't find) >> describing a phenomena allegedly occurring in the US wherein groups of >> programmers, web designers, project manag

Re: [buffy] is leaving?

2003-02-14 Thread Piers Cawley
"David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:14:15PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: >> "David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:02:29PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: >> >

Re: [buffy] is leaving?

2003-02-14 Thread Piers Cawley
"David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:02:29PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: >> "David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:23:23AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote: >> >

Re: [buffy] is leaving?

2003-02-14 Thread Piers Cawley
"David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 06:23:23AM -0800, Dave Cross wrote: >> >> "Normal Again" which is by far the best episode of Buffy ever >> made. > > Hm. Interesting choice. My gut choice there would be The Body, > actually. Indeed. In fact I'd go so far a

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