Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-21 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:40:26AM +, Dirk Koopman wrote: >On 21/11/12 09:45, David H. Adler wrote: >>And here's one from 8 years ago. >>http://www.panix.com/~dha/test/pix/IMG_2749.JPG >It is important and/or enlightening to wonder why most of you are >wearing pixie style tinfoil hats? Are the

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Mongers Technical Meeting 2012-10-30

2012-10-23 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 07:27:08PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: >and we will have a bonus talk: >Pedro Figueiredo: "The problem with Perl". What next, Mere Perlianity? (Sounds great, pity I can't make it.) R

Re: Brainbench perl test?

2012-09-04 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 05:18:20PM +0100, David Hodgkinson wrote: >When was the last time you recursed in day to day web type code? Within the last month.

Re: Brainbench perl test?

2012-09-04 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:26:46PM +0100, Mr I wrote: >Again your assumptions are on knowing about the fibonacci sequence. So a >candidate that does not know the fibonacci sequence but identifies a >possible flaw in the question can only be a maintenance programmer? The question contains a specif

Re: Brainbench perl test?

2012-09-04 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 01:03:22PM +0100, Mr I wrote: >You're not testing the candidates knowledge of maths you're testing their >knowledge of programming. If the candidate doesn't ask "what happens when n is less than 2", he may be a passable maintenance programmer but he's not someone I'd hire t

Re: Who made the law?

2012-08-31 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:16:17AM +0100, Adrian Howard wrote: >They're a virtual sign on the door that says "This place aims to be >asshole free". Which makes things easier for folk who've had too many >bad experiences to want to bother with places that aren't. The short version does that. The l

Re: Who made the law?

2012-08-31 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 04:28:27PM -0400, Mark Fowler wrote: >Here's my longer drawn out version, stolen from YAPC::NA's code of conduct. >Comments on this are genuinely welcome, and I'll leave it to the current >London.pm leader to make a call on what exactly we should adopt (if anything) > >C

Re: Odd problem with SSL under OSX

2012-08-28 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:39:18PM -0500, Avleen Vig wrote: >I'm wondering if something is trying to resolve "www.apache.org:443", and >the resolvers you're using are returning an IP you can't route to? Trying IPv6 perhaps?

Re: How to retrieve a row, biased by populatity?

2012-08-21 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 09:22:42PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: >Given a set of data, say bands, with each having a ranking, either a >review metric or a sales ranking, how would you retrieve a random >row, but biased towards the higher ranking? Broadly: convert each ranking into a weight (larger

Re: OT? Perl Question, iCal

2012-05-22 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 03:35:51PM +0200, Nic Gibson wrote: >search.cpan.org gives me far too many results for iCal. I need to parse >iCalendar (rfc 5545) files and then write them out as xCal (rfc 6321) files. >Does anyone have a particular recommendation for a module? Writing the XML >isn't th

Re: Confused by sysread()

2012-04-10 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 10:32:09PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: >Under Linux amd64 and Perl 5.10.1, I'm trying to read from a pair of >devices which will produce data in 16-byte blocks. (I can cat the device >files - as the same user - and verify that they do this.) >Under

Re: Confused by sysread()

2012-04-10 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:51:27AM +0100, Dave Mitchell wrote: >Unlikely to be the issue, but have you tested doing a single 16-byte read, >e.g. >dd if=/dev/foo of=/dev/null bs=16 count=1 dd: reading `/dev/input/event8': Invalid argument ...but open() doesn't fail, and cat still works. OK,

Re: Confused by sysread()

2012-04-09 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 02:52:10PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: >You've probably switched from perl using stdio to using perlio. The perl I have certainly has USE_PERLIO set. >You >could compile 5.10.1 with usestdio to see if that makes a difference. >Or you could try a newer perl and s

Confused by sysread()

2012-04-09 Thread Roger Burton West
Under Linux amd64 and Perl 5.10.1, I'm trying to read from a pair of devices which will produce data in 16-byte blocks. (I can cat the device files - as the same user - and verify that they do this.) Under Perl 5.8 (and an earlier i386 Linux), this worked. Now sysread() is failing with an "Invalid

Re: Programming Heresy

2012-03-30 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 11:29:46AM +0100, Will Crawford wrote: >On 30 March 2012 11:23, Dirk Koopman wrote: >> Get yourself a decent man shed with some decent windows that you can open. >What kind of colour is "man"? Pick one: Whatever colour you want it to be. The colour it was when it came fro

Re: Programming Heresy

2012-03-30 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:24:24AM +0100, Steve Mynott wrote: >Has anyone tried programming outside? For the last couple of years I've been working from home, and from the gazebo in the garden whenever it's warm enough. This gives me both shade and protection from rain. (Since there's power plumbe

Re: The proper way to open()

2012-01-30 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 04:56:53PM +, Dominic Thoreau wrote: >open IN, '<', $cfg || handle_that_error_sub; OK, that's the same error I was making, so I'll point out that this will not fail as desired, but open (IN, '<', $cfg) || handle_that_error_sub; will. R

Re: The proper way to open()

2012-01-30 Thread Roger Burton West
Bah. Thanks to Abigail. I'd done it as open ... || die ... and that hadn't worked, but that was because the || was binding more tightly than the open; open (...) || die works perfectly well. I really must get that faster brain...

The proper way to open()

2012-01-30 Thread Roger Burton West
What's a good way of opening a file as read-only, and failing if it doesn't exist? open() just returns a handle that's not obviously invalid, which strikes me as odd behaviour. At the moment I'm doing something like: open IN,"<$cfg"; if (eof IN) { die "bad config file $cfg\n"; } R

Re: OT: HTTP server that binds tcp6

2012-01-23 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 03:51:17PM -0800, Jesse Vincent wrote: >I _believe_ there's a subclass of HTTP::Server::Simple that supports v6 well >up on CPAN. There are also patches to HTTP::Server::Simple in a ticket in >rt.cpan.org. The patches on CPAN don't work with the current Debian/stable ver

OT: HTTP server that binds tcp6

2012-01-18 Thread Roger Burton West
I have a handy short program which is built on top of HTTP::Server::Simple. That's fine, but now people want IPv6 support. Is there a convenient server backend which offers this? I've just been looking at POE::Component::Server::HTTP and POE::Component::Server::SimpleHTTP with no joy. Any recommen

Re: Parsing MySQL dump files

2011-12-13 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:47:11PM +, Fahad Khan wrote: >This will do the DDL for you. >https://metacpan.org/module/SQL::Translator::Manual Would work better if it didn't run out of memory. Looks as though my hand-hacked line-by-line version is doing the job, though. R

Re: Parsing MySQL dump files

2011-12-13 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 04:41:56PM +0400, Pavel Vlasov wrote: >What kind of parse do you want? Recreating the full table structure would be fine. So would a set of fieldname=>value maps. Not really fussy. R

Parsing MySQL dump files

2011-12-13 Thread Roger Burton West
Help me, lazyweb. I have a large chunk of data that will only be supplied as a MySQL dump. (About 200M.) I want to get them out in a more reasonable format. I don't want to install MySQL, because it smells. Has anyone done this in Perl? Either a full parse, or a hack to get it into a form accepta

Re: Telecommuting

2011-12-12 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 01:04:56PM +, Simon Wilcox wrote: >That and the fact that many new graduate recruits don't use email >much any more. If they've only ever used the crippled-but-flashy version that Microsoft provides, this is hardly surprising - why would they want to? It has nothing to

Re: Perl Skills Test

2011-11-06 Thread Roger Burton West
On Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 07:36:28AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: >On Saturday, November 5, 2011, Zbigniew ??ukasiak wrote: >> For a full disclosure - I know the founder personally and I envy his >> business idea. >While I just wonder how good his sandbox is. spoj.pl seems to have managed reasonably

Re: Fwd: [newtech-141] CloudCamp London 5th October 6.30pm onwards

2011-09-27 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 04:12:48PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: >Anyone care? This is the first message I've had with "Cloud" in the subject line that wasn't blatant spam. Roger

Re: mutt

2011-07-27 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 02:56:14PM +0200, Mallory van Achterberg wrote: >Any hints on where in the mutt docs this magic key is? break-thread R

Re: mutt

2011-07-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:36:08PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: >Why change headers at all? Just don't hit reply to start a new message >that isn't a reply. But copying email addresses is _hard_. So I'm told, by people who are stuck with hateful mail clients. I.e. the ones who would benefit from

Re: Google +

2011-07-04 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 12:27:20PM +0200, Joel Bernstein wrote: >In case anybody is reading this and is still mystified, never ever >ever begin a new mailing list thread by replying to an old one and >deleting bits of it Is there a reference page to show people what threading looks like when it's

Re: Cool/useful short examples of Perl?

2011-06-08 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 01:41:29PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: >$ perl -le 'print "$_ == !!$_ ? ", $_ == !!$_ ? "yes" : "no" for (-1, >0, 1, 2, undef)' >-1 == !!-1 ? no >0 == !!0 ? yes >1 == !!1 ? yes >2 == !!2 ? no > == !! ? yes Might as well add lua, since I'm trying to learn it at the moment

Re: Security of HTTP based authentication

2011-01-13 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 02:09:16PM +, Andrew Black wrote: >I have often wondered about that - what is the risk in mixing HTTP >images and HTTPS text? Leakage of Referer: header?

Re: Server side chart/graph library?

2011-01-06 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 11:54:39AM +, J??r??me Et??v?? wrote: >I've got experience with gd but I remember struggling with unicode and >antialiasing and there's been no new version since 2007. >I'm wondering if anything more modern is around. Imager does many of the same things as GD but more

Hash to disc: what's good and fast these days?

2010-12-16 Thread Roger Burton West
There are lots of modules that let me tie a hash to some sort of database: BerkeleyDB, TokyoCabinet, CDB, and so on. Is there anything that's aware of Perl data structures and will let me tie a _multi-level_ hash to a disc file? If so, what's the best option? (I was thinking of YAML, but it's too s

Re: London.pm leader election

2010-09-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 03:45:11PM +0100, Denny wrote: >Seriously then, I propose that we consider being an autonomous >self-organising collective instead of having a leader. In the event that "none of the above" wins the final vote, what is to be done: a leaderless year as Denny proposes, or a n

Re: Best practice for variables shared between processes?

2010-09-21 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 01:20:08PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: >My first choice would be to just use the filesystem. Have the >producer(s) write its files somewhere and then mv them to a directory >that the consumer knows about once it's completely written. OK, a bit more detail. This is a pret

Re: Best practice for variables shared between processes?

2010-09-20 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:15:58PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: >I had a better thought after my last post. Have one process create >files and, when it's done with each file, atomically move them into a >known directory for the second process to, um, process and delete then >when done. Threads may we

Best practice for variables shared between processes?

2010-09-20 Thread Roger Burton West
I wish to have two processes, a "producer" (which will create files) and a "consumer" (which will do something with them), running simultaneously. Ideally the producer would push filenames to a list as it finishes producing them, while the consumer would shift them off the same list (or loop-wait,

Re: Preferred RTF parser module?

2010-05-13 Thread Roger Burton West
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 09:37:52AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: >There seem to be several different RTF parsers on CPAN (RTF::Tokenizer, >RTF::Parser, RTF::Lexer, RTF::Reader at the very least). I've looked at >RTF internals and I certainly don't want to write my own. On t

Preferred RTF parser module?

2010-05-08 Thread Roger Burton West
ObBeer: the new batch of Black Flag Mild is maturing nicely. There seem to be several different RTF parsers on CPAN (RTF::Tokenizer, RTF::Parser, RTF::Lexer, RTF::Reader at the very least). I've looked at RTF internals and I certainly don't want to write my own. What I want to do is extract the t

Re: Advice on HTML editting

2010-04-29 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:14:40AM +0100, Victoria Conlan wrote: > My first thought was a simple RE, then I decided that was silly and started > looking at modules. HTML::Parser and HTML::TreeBuilder are what I've looked > at so far. What I tend to do in this sort of situation is use HTML::TokeP

Re: Solid state drives

2010-04-20 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:03:49AM +0100, David Precious wrote: >(Yeah, ideally you'd be running a dual-PSU box with each PSU connected to a >different supply, so you should never lose both, of course.) And ideally the PSU failure doesn't blow a fuse further into the system. And ideally the tri

Anyone fancy a 1U server?

2010-03-05 Thread Roger Burton West
I have a spare 1U server - 3GHz Pentium 4, a gig of RAM. The IDE controller is naffed (it's pre-SATA), but there's a PCI riser into which you could drop the controller of your choice; there are two hard drive mounting points. Anyone interested? Roger

Re: Nice traffic RSS feed

2010-03-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:15:54AM +, Michael Lush wrote: > http://www.highways.gov.uk/rssfeed/rss.xml > > Thought someone else may find it useful (I like it, it even has the > lat/lon of the incident so I can limit the search to bits of the A14 I > actually use) Which makes it remarkably

Re: No more IP for you

2010-01-20 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 03:46:04PM +, Dominic Thoreau wrote: >Which will be just fine until we want to correspond with the camels in >the bio-dome on Mars. That's OK, TCP timeouts aren't long enough for the lightspeed delay. R

Re: No more IP for you

2010-01-20 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 02:48:28PM +, David Cantrell wrote: >There are of the order of 10 billion IPv6 addresses available for every >atom in the earth. But what is the allocation policy? (Does the University of Cambridge still get more than 1% of them? Or some other organisation that seems t

Re: SHA question

2010-01-15 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 08:16:09PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: > My understanding[*] is that it computes a checksum for each block of a file > and only transmits blocks that have different checksums. And to calculate the checksum on each block of the file, it has to, um, read each block of the fil

Re: SHA question

2010-01-14 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 01:59:22PM +, David Cantrell wrote: >Shame that "local" includes "at the other end of a really slow NFS >connection to the other side of the world". Mind you, absent running the >rsync daemon at the other end and using that instead of NFS, I'm not >sure if there's a bet

Re: SHA question

2010-01-13 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 02:25:58PM +, Alexander Clouter wrote: >The following gives the duplicated hashes (you might prefer '-D' instead >of '-d'): But does not take account of hardlinks, and again hashes every file rather than just the ones that might be duplicates. R

Re: SHA question

2010-01-13 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 01:12:28PM +, Dermot wrote: >Unfortunately the size varies quite a bit. There are a few 11Mb pdfs >but the majority are under 1mb. No, that's _good_. >I am using it in a perl class So I won't point out the implications, but there's an obvious one which will make your

Re: SHA question

2010-01-13 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:44:47PM +, Dermot wrote: >I have a lots of PDFs that I need to catalogue and I want to ensure >the uniqueness of each PDF. At LWP, Jonathan Rockway mentioned >something similar with SHA1 and binary files. Am I right in thinking >that the code below is only taking t

Re: Perl Christmas Quiz 2009

2009-11-30 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:43:19PM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: >How many people will be mildly irritated by starting a new thread >with a Reply-to: to an existing one? Meh, judging by the headers he's probably never used a threaded email client so has no reason to know any better. No point in m

Re: Help me become a Londoner!

2009-11-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 02:54:22PM +, Mike Woods wrote: > Mind you outside of greater london it's often purley down to the cost, > last time I took a bus from wakefield to leeds it cost ?2.50!!* Much the same here in Darkest Wycombe. Basically if there are two or more people going between m

Re: domain registrars

2009-10-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 02:40:16PM +0100, James Laver wrote: >Today, namecheap had some scheduled site downtime (dns still >operational) without notifying their customers (at least neither >myself nor my flatmate were informed) but customer service insists an >email was sent out to everybody. They

Re: Credit Cards

2009-10-13 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 01:27:54PM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: >I dislike giving online retailers any more information than I have to - >do they really need this? Will other companies be following suit and so >refusing is just me playing Canute? Will the CC company verify these >details (not su

Re: Sending $US to the US

2009-10-06 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 06:45:19AM -0700, Ovid wrote: >Anyone happen to know a less expensive way to send, via mail, US >dollars to the US, short of sending cash? Get a US$-denominated bank account, with a cheque book. I believe Citibank do them.

Re: Last Straw. Camel's Back. Etc.

2009-10-01 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:30:10AM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: >The only thing that WebTapestry lacks that Zen has is a Usenet >service. This has done wonders for my productivity :) Leaving Demon meant I lost their USENET feed. Now I'm running my own node. Such is the way of the world...

Re: Last Straw. Camel's Back. Etc.

2009-10-01 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:54:55AM +0100, Bob MacCallum wrote: >(albeit a canned one: "we don't block ports because that would be bad >for business" - traffic shaping is another thing, I assume.) As far as I know, no ISP admits to traffic-shaping. (Demon was working for me, but when I moved hous

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

2009-09-29 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 07:32:19PM +0100, Dirk Koopman wrote: >What is it about the good stuff that seems to put most people (a >category which probably excludes nearly everyone on this list) off >drinking it. Tastes take training. Bitter tastes in particular are something that need to be acqui

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

2009-09-25 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:28:12AM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: >I can't say that Stoke appeals, but I really do want to visit Glasgow >one day to see if people really do eat deep-fried Mars bars, or >whether they were invented to wind up the English. Both. They were invented as a joke to sell

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

2009-09-23 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 09:50:58PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: >I still reckon the People's Republic of Yorkshire produce the best >beer. Shame it's mostly undrinkable by the time it's travelled to >London. Why not brew your own? R (last time I was in Amsterdam involved jonge genever (sp?) a

Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

2009-09-21 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 08:48:31AM -0700, Ovid wrote: >Frustrating, really. There's plenty of evidence (there's a William Whyte study >that I can't find a link to right now) that large-scale moves like this fail >dramatically. Unless the objective is to sack everyone and hire cheaper people in

Re: More camels

2009-08-19 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:46:44AM +0100, Chris Jack wrote: >I've eaten camel in Holland. It was quite leathery. I wouldn't recommend it. Stew. It could reasonably be argued that a good pie is essentially a thick stew wrapped in pastry anyway. R

Re: Decent OS X audio rip software

2009-07-29 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:18:21AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: >Wow, so much legwork for such a small job. > >I've converted many hundreds of CDs to MP3 on Windows with iTunes, and >have never had any problems with quality, and only minor issues with >tagging. Depends on what you want to do. My

Re: Decent OS X audio rip software

2009-07-29 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:41:52AM +0100, Damon Allen Davison wrote: >OS X is a bit of a problem in this regard. cdparanoia via Max is the best >GUI solution, as far as I'm concerned, but the metadata goes missing. Using >Max in combination with MusicBrainz' Picard tagger would probably work fine.

Re: The 12th ICFP Programming Contest

2009-06-26 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 01:15:59AM -0700, Ask Bj?rn Hansen wrote: >Actually, per the FAQ it looks like they won't have to even be able to >run the program on their systems. "...it works on my infinite Turing machine; implementation on bounded hardware is merely an engineering problem." R

Re: Big Geek Day Out: Bletchley Park 18th July

2009-06-15 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:47:31AM +0100, Joel Bernstein wrote: >Does it have good pubs too?? Heh. If you look on Beer in the Evening, it'll point you here: http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/25/25505/Old_Swan/Bletchley but that was really pretty unimpressive a few weeks back - big-screen

Re: Big Geek Day Out: Bletchley Park 18th July

2009-06-15 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:01:16AM +0100, David Dorward wrote: >In a happy bit of coincidence, a former colleague of mine has started >(independently) organising a Big Geek Day Out ... to Bletchley Park ... on >the 18th of July. Don't miss the National Museum of Computing. R

Re: Fwd: June Social, Gunmakers EC1R, Clerkenwell. Thurs 4th June.

2009-06-04 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 03:20:58PM +0100, Martin A. Brooks wrote: >--Martin, who has deliberately bought James many pints of foul-tasting >effluent. Oh, you've been to a Wetherspoons then? R, stirring

Re: "London" airports Re: Italian Perl Workshop 2009

2009-05-29 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 04:09:54PM +0100, Hakim Cassimally wrote: >Ah! To be honest, the "hahahaha" was because I used to live near >Luton, and the "London" name for it still makes me chuckle. Not quite as silly as London Southend, though. R

Re: Best practice for releasing Perl modules to staging and live

2009-05-18 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 04:03:19PM +0100, ian wrote: >Are you advising to (re)build CPAN Perl modules this way, or are you >just describing what to do with our own Perl modules? > >One company I worked at did just this for CPAN modules, but it was a >many-day exercise to work out all the depende

Re: How we see CVs

2009-04-02 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 05:00:38PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: >This is great, http://www.hanovsolutions.com/resume_comic.png A good start, though "has facebook page" is curiously missing from the negative side...

Re: Fwd: (Planned) Emergency Social - Friday 20th March, 6pm, Wenlock Arms

2009-03-20 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:38:52PM +, Peter Corlett wrote: >A Cask Marque plaque merely shows that it was a good pub some time in its >history. Looking for a sticker stating the place is in this year's Good Beer >Guide is a much better bet. Though in some areas you'll then miss places that do

Handy Perl 6 reference

2009-02-18 Thread Roger Burton West
http://www.ozonehouse.com/mark/periodic/ R

Re: [REVIEW] Drobo

2009-01-30 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 09:14:43PM +, Simon Wistow wrote: >My alternative was either a hardware RAID controller of some kind or a >small, low profile box running *nix and software RAID. The former gives >me the willies - one too many stories of hardware RAID controllers >dying and otherwise

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-29 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 02:28:15PM +, Joel Bernstein wrote: >>From LU's website >There are many reasons why signals fail. In the case of the eastern end of the Jubilee Line, because the constructors were told to take their budget for signalling and spend it on getting the line open in time to

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-06 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 03:17:02PM +, Peter Corlett wrote: >Cycle lanes are occasionally actively dangerous, so I tend to ignore >them unless there is an obvious benefit of using a particular one. Cycle lanes are _usually_ actively dangerous, so says pretty much all the research. (Unless

Re: My New Job (Was: Social Thurs 8 Jan 2009)

2009-01-05 Thread Roger Burton West
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 02:13:48PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote: >Get a bicycle or a scooter. Do your level best in the meantime to ignore any >commentary from anyone who hasn't actually ridden in London. Seconded. Advice from a relatively new cyclist on request, or distilled at http://firedrake.o

Re: Introduction to Perl for non-programming Mac folk

2008-12-23 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:43:18PM +, Christopher Jones wrote: >And more to the point, "RTFM" is just plain rude. The US military has been known to use RFTMA: Read the friendly manual, _sir_. R

Re: Perl Christmas Quiz

2008-12-16 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 07:26:50PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: >I think the OTT Perl example would have tied 'hello' and 'world' >supply variables, would use autoloader to create the method, use a >couple of Acme modules, a regex to correct the capitalisation and just >to be really silly, i

Re: Perl 5.8.8 segfaulting on comments! How can this be?

2008-12-12 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 04:38:07PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: >Before I go digging deeper (having already lost most of the afternoon to >this), can someone confirm the problem for me? Not manifest on my 5.8.8. Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 8) configuration: Platform:

Re: Is Perl alive ?

2008-12-11 Thread Roger Burton West
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 06:59:33PM +, Nigel Rantor wrote: >Simon Wilcox wrote: >>http://isperlalive.com >>http://isperldead.com >I really think that they should both say the same thing. mu? R

Re: Doing a non-standard ioctl in Perl

2008-11-13 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:43:27AM +, Jonathan Stowe wrote: >Is there a linux/input.ph or is it possible to generate one from the >linux/input.h using h2ph ? Apparently. Maybe. cd /usr/include && h2ph -a linux/input.h produces lots and lots of output. Whoopee. Running the program with requ

Doing a non-standard ioctl in Perl

2008-11-06 Thread Roger Burton West
For various reasons, I want to do an EVIOCGRAB ioctl. perldoc -f ioctl tells me "require sys/ioctl.ph", and gives all sorts of scary warnings. But EVIOCGRAB isn't in sys/ioctl.ph. What's the approved way of doing this? That's the only ioctl I'm likely to want to use in this program, so I don't par

Re: Unlimited?

2008-10-31 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:15:17PM +, Matt Jones wrote: >On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This sounds more appropriate with the Advertising Standards Agency, which I >> suspect already has this covered. >Yeah. They decided it was just fine to use un

Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2008-10-15 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 06:13:09AM -0700, a bot claiming to be Ot??vio Fernandes wrote: >I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. Ah well, I suppose it was useful to some people while it lasted. Now I guess it's gone the way of Plaxo.

Re: [OT] American Heretics Elections

2008-08-27 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:07:42PM +0100, Alistair McGlinchy wrote: >Its not just the London Perl M[ou]ngers who have confusing rules about when >to have gatherings. I only codified "the Thursday after the first Wednesday" because the formulation in use at the time ("the first Thursday, unless it'

Re: __DATA__ and scalars

2003-09-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:41:15PM +, Martin Bower wrote: >Roger..I'd like to keep the SQL in the same script, so how would the >templating systems help ? don't they tend to use external templates ? >(scuse my ignorance if not) Other people can tell you about other templating systems. HTML:

Re: __DATA__ and scalars

2003-09-24 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:32:24PM +, Martin Bower wrote: >Can anyone point me inthe right direction, on how to get variable names >stored in __DATA__ to be evaluated ? No, but have you considered using a lightweight templating system instead? Roger

Re: Database setup

2003-09-17 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 02:46:16PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: >[Kake] >> So you write the following module: >Really? I just write the SQL in text files and run them through the >database's built in client. I write the table definitions in a different format and run them through a converter t

Re: [ot] doubtless silly perl question

2003-09-16 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 01:39:26AM +0100, Joel Bernstein wrote: >what do you understand by the line: > my $foo=( split ',' => $line )[7]; >? > >i'm trying to get the split to return an array, of which I then get the >7th element (and assign to $foo). That's what it does for me (well, the 8

Re: Partitioning?

2003-09-10 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:28:19PM +0100, Paul Makepeace typed: >(Different /usr & /usr/local seems pointless to me. YMMV.) On or about Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 10:40:32PM +0100, Shevek typed: >> /usr/local 1gig reiserfs >Why bother having this separate? I used to hav

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:55:14PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: >On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:28:34PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: >> Anyway if we are ruling out comedies, then Northern Exposure was the best >> TV series ever made. Or Dr Who minus all the crap ones. >What? Crap DW?? Never! Time

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s (was Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:49:28AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >You can get unrar as source code. I posted the link yesterday. Yes, but not the compressor. Ditto for ACE and ARJ. So there's no way to originate a RAR file under Linux without using binary-only software, and any other Unix will

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s (was Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:05:02PM +0100, Barbie [home] wrote: >On 02 September 2003 09:43 Roger Burton West wrote: >> (All of this >> only applies to the Windows world, obviously; I think the parallels in >> Unix, or at least Linux, would be .tar.bz2, .tar.gz, and dodgy &

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s

2003-09-02 Thread Roger Burton West
On or about Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 08:02:10AM -0700, Toby Corkindale typed: >I remember (and used) UC2 and, I think, HA.. Want a Debian package for HA? (Privately maintained while I wait to have time to do the become-a-developer dance.) >What happened to UC2? I think the company went under. They

Re: HTTP header voodoo

2003-09-02 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 02:41:39PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: >Can someone remind me, what's the header voodoo that tells a browser >that regardless of what it sent in the GET request, it should offer to >save the file as $filename? Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=$filename Roger

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s

2003-09-02 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 09:19:37AM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: >JAR? No relation to the Java archive format, is there? None whatsoever - it predated it somewhat as well. >I thought that Java's JAR files were just Java-tARballs. Mostly they're Zip-files, actually.. Roger

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s

2003-09-02 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:55:13AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: >I can well imagine that the availability of Info-ZIP may have been part >of this; another part is probably the advent of Win95 and WinZIP, which >brought compression to the pointy-clicky masses. (ARJ and PKZIP had >both been 16-bit

DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s (was Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-02 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 09:24:11AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: [re RAR] >I'm told it's fairly popular in (some?) Usenet binary newsgroups as a >standard way of distributing warez and moviez. ACE is another format that I understand is used in that context. >>From what I gather, it supports mult

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