Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-18 Thread Mark Blackman
On 14 Dec 2008, at 18:33, Andy Wardley wrote: Léon Brocard wrote: Andy, care to put your changes live? All checked in. It'll need to be built on the target machine. What remains for this shininess to be made live? - Mark

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-18 Thread Mark Blackman
On 18 Dec 2008, at 11:46, Jonathan Stowe wrote: 2008/12/18 Mark Blackman m...@blackmans.org: On 14 Dec 2008, at 18:33, Andy Wardley wrote: Léon Brocard wrote: Andy, care to put your changes live? All checked in. It'll need to be built on the target machine. What remains for this

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-18 Thread Andy Wardley
Mark Blackman wrote: What remains for this shininess to be made live? The gate keeper of the London.pm fortress hath just this hour granted me access after much wrangling with the dragons of ssh and walls of fire. Verily now that I have entered shall I proceed to make shiny the castle walls.

Re: be excellent to each other (was Re: I think you meant... (was Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)))

2008-12-15 Thread Dominic Thoreau
2008/12/14 Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org: And if I know that you contribute back it's far more likely that I'll investigate your bug reports straight away, rather than putting them off. For example, that's why Andy got a very full initial answer very quickly. Mind you, some people

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-15 Thread Peter Haworth
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:20:05 +, David Cantrell wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 09:17:12PM +, Dominic Thoreau wrote: If you could guarantee that full-blown machines would be all that was ever used, maybe. But this is simply not true. Plus the dot pitch is different, which can really

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-15 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Andy Wardley a...@wardley.org wrote: Nigel Rantor wrote: I've already poked Andy about this when he put up the initial version. Here's my reply to Nigel, for the benefit of anyone else interested. reply Yes. I've always been a fluid-layout kinda guy.

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-15 Thread Andy Wardley
Paul Makepeace wrote: I'd aim for 950-ish width - not much of a sacrifice from 1024 aolMe Too!/aol 960 is a particularly magical number because it's divisible by 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20 and 24, so it's a good start for grid-based designs, or anything with columns. And as you

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread Andy Wardley
Léon Brocard wrote: Andy, care to put your changes live? All checked in. It'll need to be built on the target machine. I've added 3 more colour schemes (light brown, teal and purple) for those who find the orange a bit too garish. I've also added a print stylesheet. The stylesheet switcher

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:33:34PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: I've added 3 more colour schemes (light brown, teal and purple) for those who find the orange a bit too garish. I've also added a print stylesheet. Heresy! Whilst we fully support there's more than one way to do it, the

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Nicholas Clark wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:33:34PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: I've added 3 more colour schemes (light brown, teal and purple) for those who find the orange a bit too garish. I've also added a print stylesheet. Heresy! Whilst we fully support there's more than one way

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 19:35 +, Nigel Rantor wrote: Nicholas Clark wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:33:34PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: I've added 3 more colour schemes (light brown, teal and purple) for those who find the orange a bit too garish. I've also added a print stylesheet.

I think you meant... (was Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2))

2008-12-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Jonathan Stowe wrote: I think you meant I would submit patches - strange how sometimes your keyboard goes wrong like that. No Jonathan, I don't mean that. At all. If I meant that I would have said it. Do you see? And I object to this attitude that one is not allowed to voice their opinion

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread Andy Wardley
Nigel Rantor wrote: I've already poked Andy about this when he put up the initial version. Here's my reply to Nigel, for the benefit of anyone else interested. reply Yes. I've always been a fluid-layout kinda guy. 800x600 is annoyingly narrow when you've got a large monitor, so a fluid

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 07:35:42PM +, Nigel Rantor wrote: If it was a site I actively used I would complain loudly and vociferously. As it is, I don't. So I won't. I've already poked Andy about this when he put up the initial version. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:48:43PM +, Nigel

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread Andy Wardley
Nicholas Clark wrote: Whilst we fully support there's more than one way to do it, the availability of different hues of orange should provide more than enough alternatives. :-) Aha! Well the brown design *is* actually orange! It's exactly the same hue as the orange (30 deg), but de-saturated

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread Dominic Thoreau
2008/12/14 Andy Wardley a...@wardley.org: But these days, it's considered officially OK to assume that 1024x768 is the lowest common denominator for screen width, which gives you a nicely sized bit of content-space to play with. Making it fluid upwards of that tends to result in wide wide

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread David Cantrell
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 09:17:12PM +, Dominic Thoreau wrote: On ultra-portable netbooks (like my Eee) and on mobile phones, this sort of approach can make navigation impossible. If you could guarantee that full-blown machines would be all that was ever used, maybe. But this is simply

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)

2008-12-14 Thread Dirk Koopman
Andy Wardley wrote: Nigel Rantor wrote: I've already poked Andy about this when he put up the initial version. Here's my reply to Nigel, for the benefit of anyone else interested. reply Yes. I've always been a fluid-layout kinda guy. 800x600 is annoyingly narrow when you've got a large

be excellent to each other (was Re: I think you meant... (was Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted (v2)))

2008-12-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 09:24:05PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: I welcome testing, feedback and comments, both good and bad. But it is worth bearing in mind that this is voluntary work and any complaints that are *too* vociferous may fall on deaf ears. Or be met with directions to the

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-12 Thread Joel Bernstein
2008/12/11 Dirk Koopman d...@tobit.co.uk: Robin Berjon wrote: We need a more ecumenical colour. So purple rather than the more pagan orange? /joel

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-12 Thread David Cantrell
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 08:12:05AM +, Joel Bernstein wrote: 2008/12/11 Dirk Koopman d...@tobit.co.uk: Robin Berjon wrote: We need a more ecumenical colour. So purple rather than the more pagan orange? Yes! We should use the appropriate liturgical colour for the season! This has the

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-12 Thread Jonathan Stowe
2008/12/12 Léon Brocard a...@astray.com: 2008/12/11 Andy Wardley a...@wardley.org: How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ This is fantastic! I would like to point out that my orange is #FF9900, but that's very close indeed. Andy, care to put your changes live? And if you

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Denny
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 16:09 +, Andy Wardley wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? New Perl Slogan FTW :)

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Andy Wardley
Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ I tarted up the layout and styling a bit, added the glass onion (I'm determined to get that on at least one Perl site!), updated some of the content on the Home and About pages (including how to check

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread David Dorward
Andy Wardley wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ Pretty :) Although: lia href=# onclick=$('#page').toggleClass('wide'); return false Go span class=go_smallSmall/spanspan class=go_largeLarge/span/a/li Can

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Andy Wardley
David Dorward wrote: Can features which only work with JS on be added entirely with JS please? Hmmm... the JS *should* be non-JS friendly because onclick will be ignored by non-JS browsers. The Small/Large is switched on CSS rather than JS, but that will fail if you've got CSS disabled.

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 11, 2008, at 17:09 , Andy Wardley wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ Is nice. One nitpick though: the tab links at the top are maybe a too transparent, they seem disabled to me. -- Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 04:09:33PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ Looks nice. Minor niggles: * go large/go small isn't sticky when you change pages * page too wide - the old one re-flows to fit in smaller windows * I don't like all of the

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Paul Mison
2008/12/11 Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ In the finest traditions of pointless bikeshedding, what's 122 Leadenhall Street (its stupid nickname is apparently the Cheesegrater doing in the header?

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Paul Makepeace
Looks great! On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:54 PM, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 04:09:33PM +, Andy Wardley wrote: How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ Looks nice. Minor niggles: * go large/go small isn't sticky when you change pages *

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Simon Wilcox
Andy Wardley wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ Like it :-) The strap line should be Perl is Alive! rather than the shortened version though, should it not ? S.

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Denny
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 17:12 +, Simon Wilcox wrote: The strap line should be Perl is Alive! rather than the shortened version though, should it not ? No* http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MFnmT82yGpk * or 'yes', if you want to keep the number of syllables the same rather than keep the use of

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread mirod
Andy Wardley wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ I tarted up the layout and styling a bit, added the glass onion (I'm determined to get that on at least one Perl site!), updated some of the content on the Home and About pages

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Dirk Koopman
Andy Wardley wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ I tarted up the layout and styling a bit, added the glass onion (I'm determined to get that on at least one Perl site!), updated some of the content on the Home and About pages

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Andy Wardley
Dirk Koopman wrote: Personally I would go for a completely different base colour, or stick to the original orange, rather than shift slightly in the yellow/green direction. It's the same orange, at least the strips down the side are. The darker orange bits in the header are the same hue (30

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Dirk Koopman
Andy Wardley wrote: Dirk Koopman wrote: Personally I would go for a completely different base colour, or stick to the original orange, rather than shift slightly in the yellow/green direction. It's the same orange, at least the strips down the side are. The darker orange bits in the header

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 18:47 +0100, mirod wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ I tarted up the layout and styling a bit, added the glass onion (I'm determined to get that on at least one Perl

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Robin Berjon
On Dec 11, 2008, at 18:49 , Dirk Koopman wrote: The glass onion makes me think this is a site about curry. That may simple be the conjunction with the erm... colour. Which is also rather curry like. As opposed to the definite orange it used to be. But then again, what's wrong with curry?

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread Dirk Koopman
Robin Berjon wrote: On Dec 11, 2008, at 18:49 , Dirk Koopman wrote: The glass onion makes me think this is a site about curry. That may simple be the conjunction with the erm... colour. Which is also rather curry like. As opposed to the definite orange it used to be. But then again, what's

Re: london.pm.org web site - facelifted

2008-12-11 Thread breno
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Andy Wardley a...@wardley.org wrote: Andy Wardley wrote: I can help there. How about this? http://wardley.org/london.pm.org/ I tarted up the layout and styling a bit, added the glass onion (I'm determined to get that on at least one Perl site!), Not as